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  • Theonlyaequitas
    MVP
    • Dec 2014
    • 1270

    #156391
    Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

    Originally posted by MWIL
    You sound like you work for CatDaddy.
    Action daddy!

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    • richie_r1ch
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      • Feb 2015
      • 722

      #156392
      Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

      Credit packs are way too expensive to justify the crap they get you. Therefore we find other ways to get what we want.

      Seriously if you were a pure money player it would cost you $50 for one po card, which are useless now on their own. The pricing on everything is screwed up, nothing adds up or makes sense when you break it down. If someone wants to drop a few hundred on this game, so be it, but for that you should get way more than what they give you, when you factor in the tax its a huge ripoff.
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      • badman33462
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        • Jun 2004
        • 2526

        #156393
        Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

        Originally posted by ActionJack
        Buybacks are needed, BECAUSE the first dude decided to offer one.

        Now that everyone knows that there are thirsty *** players willing to give buybacks, it's not worth it to buy at full price anymore... which means you can't list at full price, because the buyers don't exist.

        The problem is that players were EVER willing to take so little for their goods. CD already taking 30%, and you guys are giving back MORE?!? The fact that people are willing to do that, is what destroys the market.

        It's honestly not CD's fault. It's you guys' fault. People are too desperate for credits (just not so desperate that they'll spend actual money), and they screw themselves over to get them.
        I get your point but I disagree when you say it is not CD's fault. Buybacks started because of the ridiculous minimums that CD set. And yes while CD is a company and is trying to make money, you can't blame people for not wanting to spend money on a mobile game if they don't want to. Pretty sure the majority of their players aren't going to have the desire (and/or means) to spend thousands of dollars on a game that doesn't really carry over from year to year. The loyalty rewards they'll probably give will only be a fraction of whatever time/money players put into the game

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        • badman33462
          MVP
          • Jun 2004
          • 2526

          #156394
          Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

          Originally posted by richie_r1ch
          Credit packs are way too expensive to justify the crap they get you. Therefore we find other ways to get what we want.

          Seriously if you were a pure money player it would cost you $50 for one po card, which are useless now on their own. The pricing on everything is screwed up, nothing adds up or makes sense when you break it down. If someone wants to drop a few hundred on this game, so be it, but for that you should get way more than what they give you, when you factor in the tax its a huge ripoff.
          Couldn't have said it better myself.

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          • Kilner
            Rookie
            • Jun 2015
            • 278

            #156395
            Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

            Hold up, James Harden is dating one of the Kardashians?

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            • xInfinityRelapses
              All Star
              • Jul 2014
              • 6786

              #156396
              Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

              Originally posted by Kilner
              Hold up, James Harden is dating one of the Kardashians?
              More reason for me to dislike him....

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              • ActionJack
                Pro
                • Mar 2014
                • 586

                #156397
                Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                Originally posted by badman33462
                I get your point but I disagree when you say it is not CD's fault. Buybacks started because of the ridiculous minimums that CD set. And yes while CD is a company and is trying to make money, you can't blame people for not wanting to spend money on a mobile game if they don't want to. Pretty sure the majority of their players aren't going to have the desire (and/or means) to spend thousands of dollars on a game that doesn't really carry over from year to year. The loyalty rewards they'll probably give will only be a fraction of whatever time/money players put into the game
                That's the point though.

                Either buybacks are gonna exist, or CD can eliminate minimums, and prices can bottom out.

                Either way, it's the same. Buybacks themselves aren't the problem. The problem is that people don't want to spend anything, but feel entitled to top level decks, on the one hand.. and on the other hand, sellers are too impatient and desperate to properly set the market.

                It's exacerbated by the sheer number of cards in the ecosystem.

                The issue is that people are too impatient to create and sustain value in their goods, so they sell themselves out and crater the market. It would be the exact same without minimums, just without the step of having to setup a bb. Same result though. Selling goods for next to nothing.

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                • Hardyz
                  Rookie
                  • May 2015
                  • 438

                  #156398
                  Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                  Originally posted by Kilner
                  Hold up, James Harden is dating one of the Kardashians?

                  Dunno I remember when some girl he was sleeping with posted a selfie of both of them in bed the next morning(?) on Instagram or Twitter. Made me laugh. I think it was after they lost to the Warriors too


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                  • Kilner
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                    • Jun 2015
                    • 278

                    #156399
                    Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                    Well, now he's gonna have 2 beards instead of one, fear the beard,

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                    • CedricFP
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                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1864

                      #156400
                      Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                      I think credit packs being too expensive are a real issue. If they just lowered the prices, more people would become paying players, and the result would inject credits into the economy.

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                      • xInfinityRelapses
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                        • Jul 2014
                        • 6786

                        #156401
                        Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                        Originally posted by Hardyz
                        Dunno I remember when some girl he was sleeping with posted a selfie of both of them in bed the next morning(?) on Instagram or Twitter. Made me laugh. I think it was after they lost to the Warriors too


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                        I saw that too. Edelman on the Patriots got caught slipping too lmfao

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                        • cplabarr
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 362

                          #156402
                          Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                          Originally posted by CedricFP
                          I think credit packs being too expensive are a real issue. If they just lowered the prices, more people would become paying players, and the result would inject credits into the economy.

                          I know right? It takes $20 of credits just to make a trade, or buy a completely useless leg


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                          • richie_r1ch
                            Pro
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 722

                            #156403
                            Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                            Originally posted by ActionJack
                            That's the point though.

                            Either buybacks are gonna exist, or CD can eliminate minimums, and prices can bottom out.

                            Either way, it's the same. Buybacks themselves aren't the problem. The problem is that people don't want to spend anything, but feel entitled to top level decks, on the one hand.. and on the other hand, sellers are too impatient and desperate to properly set the market.

                            It's exacerbated by the sheer number of cards in the ecosystem.

                            The issue is that people are too impatient to create and sustain value in their goods, so they sell themselves out and crater the market. It would be the exact same without minimums, just without the step of having to setup a bb. Same result though. Selling goods for next to nothing.
                            I also think it's CD's fault in a major way. Like I said earlier, everything is way overpriced, especially for a game that doesn't carry over.

                            Aside from the $4.99 I spent a long time ago to buy a few hot streaks, I'm a free player. Hell, I bought GTA: SA for my phone for $4.99 and that's a full game, but that's another point.

                            This game is fun in a weird way that only we will understand. I would be a lot more inclined to pay real money if I felt I got my money's worth. A PO card should cost no more than $10 (before the warriors cards came out) and other cards a whole lot less. If I could buy fodder for $5 to train up a po pro, I actually might just do that, even multiple times during the course of the game, but the greed is so strong that they focus only on those few who spend hundreds, even couple that go in the thousands, rather than collect, $20-$50 from thousands and thousands of potential buyers.

                            until that changes, we will continue to find other methods that essentially save us hundreds of dollars in the end, rather than a few bucks where we may start paying at times instead of grinding forever. As of now, grinding for free and doing buybacks and such is very much worth it.
                            Last edited by richie_r1ch; 07-06-2015, 12:36 AM.
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                            • Tank4ever
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                              • Oct 2014
                              • 1736

                              #156404
                              Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                              Originally posted by badman33462
                              I get your point but I disagree when you say it is not CD's fault. Buybacks started because of the ridiculous minimums that CD set. And yes while CD is a company and is trying to make money, you can't blame people for not wanting to spend money on a mobile game if they don't want to. Pretty sure the majority of their players aren't going to have the desire (and/or means) to spend thousands of dollars on a game that doesn't really carry over from year to year. The loyalty rewards they'll probably give will only be a fraction of whatever time/money players put into the game
                              Iirc, buyback started with Syd, because he didn't need the cards so he was practically giving them away. Then others started using it because they wanted fast sells. When the AH first started (post beta) the market was actually pretty healthy. As long as you posted your card within a 1 hour time frame that wasn't flooded with like 5 copies, it would sell 80-90% of the time but people didn't want to do that. They wanted instant sells & they offered buybacks so buyers would bin their card instead of buying the one with the lowest time remaining. Not sure they realized it at the time but they depleted the credit pool twice as fast, because of the double tax.
                              Last edited by Tank4ever; 07-06-2015, 12:38 AM.
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                              • CedricFP
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                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1864

                                #156405
                                Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                                Originally posted by cplabarr
                                I know right? It takes $20 of credits just to make a trade, or buy a completely useless leg


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                                It's anecdotal and fairly useless, but I would certainly be willing to spend more if packs were cheaper. At the moment I've only bought packs to complete deals, but if they were cheaper, i might just think about treating myself to a large pack or two to buy greats.

                                The problem is that right now it cost 100 bucks for 15k credits which is 1 great and worth only 5 points to loyalty.

                                The cost just does not work out.

                                Edit: I know that this is not a black and white issue, and that credit prices aren't based on the assumption that people only buy credits. The AH can supplement credits, and as CD would say, so can seasons and daily rewards.

                                But the pack pricing is just messed right now. It barely makes sense to buy them unless you're in a pinch and need to complete a deal.

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