Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

[ActionJack]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Another idea. Give the finals winner a guaranteed dupe. The runner up gets two random star cards. That would be an incentive.

Poetic so smart!

This is actually the PERFECT solution.

It returns the incentive to actually try in seasons, gives a meaningful difference between Legend and Star seasons, AND it still keeps from flooding the AH, because players will be way more likely to actually KEEP what they win.

[Poetic]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

AND it still keeps from flooding the AH, because players will be way more likely to actually KEEP what they win.

THAT is smart actually. Hadn't thought of that at all. I would definitely keep the dupe, especially with RTTC requiring so many good cards.

[Settlon]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

If they wanted to nerf the rewards they should be like this,
Only doing star tier for now:

First Round: 2 Legendaries, 0 credits
Semi-Finals: 1 Star, 1 Legendary 100 credits
Finals Runner up: 2 Stars (Random), 200 credits
Finals Winner: 2 Stars (Same player), 400 credits

Again these changes are minor, but it keeps an incentive to always want to win vs. tanking. Competitiveness is an important aspect in keeping competitive and fun seasons.

Still supporting this reward layout. Tweaked it a bit too

[nzjase]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Credits are more flexible? I can't argue with that NWGame but I can argue that I had an incentive to play a season when the reward for making the final was two epics or an epic and a legend.

You know why? Because I spent four days energising ect to win a reward that would allow me to progress my deck. As it is I have 20 unduped epics how does winning one epic for coming second help me progress?

How are the 60... Yes 60... credits more flexible than the extra epic I would have gotten to strengthen my seasons team?

Honestly, this is a serious question, how do the 60 credits (maybe 100 if I am lucky but then I don't get an epic to dupe just a single ****ty leg) hope me dupe my seasons team to get into legendary tier?

What, use them to list auctions? So I just worked for 4 days to get credits to list 3 cards (cards that I don't have because you took the rewards away) and cards that you have just said might not sell (because the AH model is broken)

Yep those credits sure are flexible, maybe I will use them to hot steak to a star card in rivals, oh wait I will only be able to buy 20 hot steaks if I win back o back seasons between every rivals clash. Hmm no that isn't flexible.

Well I will buy a pack then to try and get cards to improve my seasons deck, which pack worth 60 credits gives me the ability to buy an epic to improve my deck? There isn't one?

Hmm these credits aren't sounding so flexible now. These credits are sounding liking a desperate money grab.

You dropped the ball big time, the season rewards were perfect for tiers below star to allow progression. GIVE US BACK THAT. Star needed to be addressed but why not 1x star and 1x HOF for the reward with two stars for second?

Anyway TLDR; given lower tiers back their progression path!!!!

[dryllruss]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I'm sure that the first week after the update will show how reasonable their updates are, their "boost" sales should be greatly increased ..

[NWGameDad]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Thank you all for the feedback surrounding the update so far.I am happy to announce based on the feedback and first 24 hours of Auction House data, we have decided to lower the Buy It Now Minimums to 20% of the Minimum Bids.We originally added the separate BIN minimum to give some space to auctions to allow for bidding.Looking at the data, 20% will give the space we need to have active auctions vs. all purchases being BIN, while still allowing for reasonable BIN purchases for those that don’t want to wait and bid.These changes are live now.Thanks again for the feedback and we hope you enjoy the game.Road to the Championship begins in about 7 hours!

[eVizions]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I have 8k credits. Instead of spending that and dropping another couple hundred bucks to improve my lineup, I will not buy another credit until the season rewards and AH are fixed. I will live off of what I have and what I can make from AH.

[NWGameDad]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I actually have two questions not related to the AH or Season Rewards...
1)In the upcoming RTTC, are the draft boards separate from QG? I'm in Star in QG but only Leg++ in RTTC and it would suck to get hit with a Counter Reset in RTTC that reset my progress in Star, when I'm more than 200 board clears in.
2)I've noticed a lot of my card portraits of newer cards are missing. Any word when this will be fixed?
Thanks.

The Draft Boards are not separate. They have a shared counter between the two. So playing in RttC at a lower tier level will reset your counter when you pull a card equal to that tier.


The card portrait problems people have on Android will be fixed tomorrow morning. We are testing the fix now. It will require a new DLC that we will have to push out again.

[Plecians_fan_504]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Thank you all for the feedback surrounding the update so far.I am happy to announce based on the feedback and first 24 hours of Auction House data, we have decided to lower the Buy It Now Minimums to 20% of the Minimum Bids.We originally added the separate BIN minimum to give some space to auctions to allow for bidding.Looking at the data, 20% will give the space we need to have active auctions vs. all purchases being BIN, while still allowing for reasonable BIN purchases for those that don’t want to wait and bid.These changes are live now.Thanks again for the feedback and we hope you enjoy the game.Road to the Championship begins in about 7 hours!

I hope you are coming up with a fix to the biggest problem with this update the horrible season rewards. There is no reason to go past the second round which kills the competitiveness of the season.

[Poetic]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

That is a good first step danan. Quick and reasonable. Please make this your MO for seasons as well.



MVP Magic Johnson

[SmartForce]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I've been warning people for few weeks now that botting is against the EULA/TOS. We are now banning people for breaking the EULA/TOS. Using emulators are not getting specifically banned, but those are not supported so any bugs or problems you encounter there are "play at your own risk" type of issues.

I am on the record as suspecting the people who have won the RC events of botting, so obviously anti-bot measures are a good thing.

That said, your app is a significant drain on my iPhone 5S battery. I've got music and sounds turned off, and it still drains the battery super fast. I can play with it plugged in to charge, but that's dangerous. The batteries used in smartphones can literally explode with too much current draw, and playing with the phone plugged in for an hour results in an uncomfortably hot phone.

So I went and looked into what bluestacks is, and I now use it to play when I have access to wifi with my laptop or when I'm at home.

I am generally doing something else at the same time as playing (Watching netflix mostly). I've had the code entry thing come up once.

This post by you is making me feel like my options are to continue to play via the emulator and risk a false positive botting ban (My record is 1706 and 149 ... I'm not exactly blowing away the game count here), or risk a serious problem by playing on my phone while it's plugged in to charge (ranging from the phone dying to potential serious bodily injury) or be limited in how much I can play.

None of these are appealing.

[eVizions]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Translation: Your 24 hour profit from the new AH was lower than the Beta projected and now you're changing it because you want more coin. You are willing to make knee-jerk reactions over 24 hours of data, unlike what you said before. There was very little public outcry about BIN's in comparison to other issues (season rewards, tax, etc...). This was not done for us.

Don't fall for these "concessions."

I think the BIN issue was as big as season rewards. It's a start. Hopefully we can get season rewards changed, as well.

[nzjase]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

That is a good first step danan. Quick and reasonable. Please make this your MO for seasons as well.



MVP Magic Johnson

One can only hope

[ActionJack]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I really wish people would stop begrudging this company for trying to make money. It really undermines whatever argument you're trying to make, by basing such large portions of your arguments in a fundamental fight against capitalism itself. Comes off juvenile, IMO.

OF COURSE they are gonna base a lot of their decision making on the financials. Every company in the world does that (or they die).

That being said, we should be happy that they are showing flexibility.

And yeah.. the notion that we would have to wait a little longer for a change in season related stuff does make sense too. Seasons take days. Therefore it will take days to get tangible results. This really does just make sense.

That said, I would like to again, back Poetic's idea of Pros being given to season winners, for the reasons I already stated. Seems like it checks all boxes for all parties. Incidentally, it's funny how solutions can be reached quickly, when everyone just puts their cards on the table, instead of trying to hide behind dubious reasoning. Not that this is over or anything, but the conversation QUICKLY moved to finding mutually beneficial solutions, as opposed to different versions of the same incredulous post, back to back.

Also, as a side note to all of this, NWGD let loose changes to RC that also make season changes easier to understand. RC rewards are improving again, and it's being significantly shortened. That's an important bit of info that, again, I'm not sure why he wouldn't make more of a focal point, as it completely changes the narrative from "these guys are screwing us" to "oh.. they're funneling rewards to other channels like RttC and RC, and taking some from seasons".

Seems like there was a huge **** show here, that could have been totally avoided, with more up front info, and less slightly disingenuous, patronizing pseudo explanations.

Again.. even with all this, I still think Season wins should reward the winner with a Pro, so people actually care to win them (and again, it makes it way less likely that the reward will go to AH).

The credits will serve as a catalyst to buy Hot Streaks, and Game Nights.. a slippery slope that will result in us buying more than our free credits allow for.. lining CD pockets.

I mean.. It really seems like this works for everyone. CD might wanna consider working on their information delivery.

Edit- if only this could all somehow works its way to improved card stats.....

[eVizions]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I really wish people would stop begrudging this company for trying to make money. It really undermines whatever argument you're trying to make, by basing such large portions of your arguments in a fundamental fight against capitalism itself. Comes off juvenile, IMO.

OF COURSE they are gonna base a lot of their decision making on the financials. Every company in the world does that (or they die).

That being said, we should be happy that they are showing flexibility.

And yeah.. the notion that we would have to wait a little longer for a change in season related stuff does make sense too. Seasons take days. Therefore it will take days to get tangible results. This really does just make sense.

That said, I would like to again, back Poetic's idea of Pros being given to season winners, for the reasons I already stated. Seems like it checks all boxes for all parties. Incidentally, it's funny how solutions can be reached quickly, when everyone just puts their cards on the table, instead of trying to hide behind dubious reasoning. Not that this is over or anything, but the conversation QUICKLY moved to finding mutually beneficial solutions, as opposed to different versions of the same incredulous post, back to back.

Also, as a side note to all of this, NWGD let loose changes to RC that also make season changes easier to understand. RC rewards are improving again, and it's being significantly shortened. That's an important bit of info that, again, I'm not sure why he wouldn't make more of a focal point, as it completely changes the narrative from "these guys are screwing us" to "oh.. they're funneling rewards to other channels like RttC and RC, and taking some from seasons".

Seems like there was a huge **** show here, that could have been totally avoided, with more up front info, and less slightly disingenuous, patronizing pseudo explanations.

Again.. even with all this, I still think Season wins should reward the winner with a Pro, so people actually care to win them (and again, it makes it way less likely that the reward will go to AH).

The credits will serve as a catalyst to buy Hot Streaks, and Game Nights.. a slippery slope that will result in us buying more than our free credits allow for.. lining CD pockets.

I mean.. It really seems like this works for everyone. CD might wanna consider working on their information delivery.

Edit- if only this could all somehow works its way to improved card stats.....

I literally stopped reading after the first paragraph. I'm not begrudging them for trying to make money, I'm hoping they figure out that they can make more money, while still managing to make their consumers happy. Right now, they can't seem to get out of their own way. It's a train wreck.