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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by Behindshadows2
Originally posted by Behindshadows2
Originally posted by Behindshadows2
Originally posted by Behindshadows2
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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by KDRENow this thread is going to far.
Sorry I edited my post....
Originally posted by BoLoYou know who you remind me of from the last crusade? A Nazi, and 2K is your Hitler.
Question of this thread is this...Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Most Truthful Answer that Fans will hate to admit: Because EA would rather buy up the Rights, than to hire better artist that will improve their games. Also because as long as they are recieving your dollars anyways. No need to change what isn't preventing them from getting richer.....
The End.....A 29 year old, former EA Fan. Turned To what so far has yet to let me down. Visual Concepts and 2ksports.Last edited by Behindshadows; 08-02-2005, 07:45 PM.Comment
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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by Behindshadows2When 2ksports ... delivers a more polished ... product every year.
You forgot bug-filled...
Aye... this thread is too funny, instead of focusing on the fact that Live's graphics have declined, it has become a one vs. all attempt at preaching in favor of "the good guys who care."
That's all the thread was about: graphics. 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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by ParedThat comparison was completely uncalled for. You went as far off the deep end as shadowboy here, if not, further.
That's my word son! I'm out!"I believe everything you do bad comes back to you. So everything that I do that's bad, I'm going to suffer for it. But in my heart , I believe what I'm doing is right. So I feel like I'm going to heavan"
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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by BoLoPared I have a lot of respect for you and all that you do. I understand that and I take full reponsibility for what I said, however I believe it was taken out of context. I was not calling the man a nazi or trying to compare him to one, I just took the analogy that he used about you I believe and used the same formula but with a different spin on it to show him how ridiculous his statement sounded. If this offened anybody I apologize, however it was just an analogy and that's all it was. One stupid analogy deserves another. That's my final take on the matter, it was not ment to be literal, but if it was taken literally I'm sorry.
That's my word son! I'm out!
But I'm sure after this comment it's understood no harm was intended. 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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by ParedOh damn...
Anyway, yeah, the graphics in '05 looked GREAT in the ASW, but on the court were terrible. This mostly was b/c of the horrible camera angles. While '05 was clearly the better game, '04's graphics were a LOT smoother.
To add insult to injury, my lil' brother bought '03 used a while back... and the player personalization was even BETTER than both of them. Stockton with high shorts, and so on...
It's almost as if EA just decided to make the players shine and call it improved graphics... UGH.
The '06 shots don't look great either, at this point....
You know I would have to say it's a personal opinion. Because I didn't think the graphics were great last year but they weren't bad either. I loved Live 05 and thought it played very good basketball overall once I finished adjusting and editing things.
As for 06 the NEXT GEN models look damn good to me. But then that's my opinion just like you had your opinion. The Gameplay is the #1 priority to me and that's what most guy's seem to take for granted. But hey you can top notch graphics and if the gameplay sucks then all you have is Eye Candy running around on the court.NCAA FOOTBALL 14 ALUMNI LEGENDS CPU vs CPU DYNASTY THREAD
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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by Pared
You forgot bug-filled...
Aye... this thread is too funny, instead of focusing on the fact that Live's graphics have declined, it has become a one vs. all attempt at preaching in favor of "the good guys who care."
That's all the thread was about: graphics. A shame it had to resort to someone using the word "fanboy," followed by a sermon and reflection of Indiana Jones.
Someone mentioned that their Next Gen graphics were nice. To be honest no they weren't. They were nice compared to current live graphics. But even NBA 2k6 graphics have more detail, EA just had that nice *** sweat effect which was impressive on the close up videos. But far away the player models were still skinny and weak looking, everyone was zombie and doll faced. The stadiums were terrible for 360 graphics and did anyone notice when the shot went it...the net didn't move and the ball just stuck in the goal. Unless you want EA to give you another 5 years of Gimmicks and false improvements you really need to stop defending them and start voicing complaints and constructive criticism.... I apologize if you feel that I'm hating on them, but honestly I just want them to improve. I'm use to having multiple b-ball games every year. But for the last 4 I've only had one....Minus the disappearance of ID, which are now working as a team with VC. EA games and graphics will never truly show any true potential or graphical advancements, because they don't feel they need to. Gameplay this and gameplay that...if the game is looking outdated its a turn off to play. Now I'm sure alot of you hate to admit it....but aren't you getting tired of 7 feet centers being the same height and weight as 6 feet guards with big bobble head and mis-preportioned body's.
I would really like to enjoy Live games again....but until they do more as a overall game, that means improving the game to a more realistic aspect. Then I will never like live again or give it props. I'm sorry Freestyle, ASW and none of that crap means anything without better and more realistic graphics.
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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by Behindshadows2Ok well lets talk about bugs when it comes to live. The fact that even with slider adjustments, the games offensive rebounding is non-existent. The cpu A.I. Is stupid and completely off balance. The game has a freezing issue. Live is a game it has bugs.
You want to talk about issues with Live? How about the lack of authentic team play styles? How about a franchise with stat problems? At least have some clue what you're talking about if you're going to talk about last year's iterations.
Originally posted by Behindshadows2NBA 2k5 is a game it has bugs, but amazing how Visual Concepts released a patch on XBOX live that fixed their bugs. I didn't see EA Sports take the same effort to do so....
As for the rest of your post... good lord, you act as if you really want EA to do better... THEN STOP BUYING THEIR GAMES. WHINING ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Hit 'em where it hurts, Che.
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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by ParedHey, if you're going to talk about issues from a few years ago, why not go back to earlier consoles!? Gimme a break.
You want to talk about issues with Live? How about the lack of authentic team play styles? How about a franchise with stat problems? At least have some clue what you're talking about if you're going to talk about last year's iterations.
Amazing. Granted, 2k HAS utilized XBL to patch bugs plenty of times... but does that make it anymore right that they release games that way? You sit there and rip on EA Sports as a whole, yet you ignore how there was a PC patch for MVP baseball last year to address the lefty issue, and the year before EA Sports went as far as to ship new copies of the XBox Madden to anyone that wanted it to address the draft class omission? Stop being so one sided.
As for the rest of your post... good lord, you act as if you really want EA to do better... THEN STOP BUYING THEIR GAMES. WHINING ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Hit 'em where it hurts, Che.
As Fossen put it earlier today to someone doing the same exact thing you're doing in response to Madden, "if they haven't changed due to user feedback on message boards up to this point, why even think they will now?"
Again I'm talking about improving Graphics and you continue to dawn back on this gameplay issue......Talk about Graphics, GRAPHICS when we talk about GRAPHICS AND THE LACK OF IMPROVING GRAPHICS.....LIVE SUCKS.......Last edited by Behindshadows; 08-02-2005, 08:45 PM.Comment
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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by Behindshadows2Blah blah blah... Yadda yadda yadda....
2. Your "issues" may have held water in 2004. I've already posted complaints about 2005. You're obviously a year behind in the times. Want another one that I just thought of? People complained that the ability to fastbreak in '05 was "broken." I'm sure you've READ that. I've posted a bit more on issues that hit close to home on '05. Again, you're off. (no pun intended)
3. Many people here agree Live's graphics aren't cutting it in '06. In fact, if you READ the thread, you'd see me claiming '03 had better graphics than most think, and the series took a turn downhill from there. I continue to "dawn back on this gameplay issue?" Are you seriously reading what is being written? You're making comments on EA Sports as a whole, yapping on about Indiana Jones and such... and I'm going back on this gameplay issue?
Read through the thread again. 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Re: Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?
Originally posted by PlaymakersYou know I would have to say it's a personal opinion. Because I didn't think the graphics were great last year but they weren't bad either. I loved Live 05 and thought it played very good basketball overall once I finished adjusting and editing things.
As for 06 the NEXT GEN models look damn good to me. But then that's my opinion just like you had your opinion. The Gameplay is the #1 priority to me and that's what most guy's seem to take for granted. But hey you can top notch graphics and if the gameplay sucks then all you have is Eye Candy running around on the court."I believe everything you do bad comes back to you. So everything that I do that's bad, I'm going to suffer for it. But in my heart , I believe what I'm doing is right. So I feel like I'm going to heavan"
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