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  • Benicio10
    Pro
    • Jun 2007
    • 670

    #346
    Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

    Originally posted by Pared
    Either way, you spend more effort complaining about what the game isn't than moving on or discussing what it is.

    And again, the excuse "we're hoping to improve the game" doesn't apply. The devs know about it and if they could have fixed it completely, they would have, just like they addressed a lot of other concerns.

    Patch has been released, game is where it is going to stay for the rest of the year. Complaining at this point is just a complete waste of time.
    your mindset is the same one that EA wants us to have... just accept the game and keep buying it year after year ... i'll argue that this type of mindset creates complacency ... there's no driving force to improve the game ... it's partly why madden and nba live have been subpar year after year.

    it's the passion for innovation that creates change. i visit the MLB: Show forum and the devs and fans have a totally different approach ... they care and you can see it. and they take to heart even the most minute suggestions.

    i care about this franchise and i want it to improve... and EA said they fixed the problem so how am i supposed to think they know about the issue? maybe they think they fixed it? we're here to show them and so that maybe they can issue another patch for Live 10, or if they can tell us there won't be one, then maybe Live 11 won't have this issue.

    the community matters, pared, but one wouldn't think so after reading posts like yours, especially since you're a moderator.

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #347
      Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

      Honestly, spare me all that Benicio. You've been here since '07. That complacency argument is so off base with me of all people it's beyond humorous.

      I've pointed out more to help get these games "sim" than you can even imagine. Just because I don't feel the need to repeat myself ad nauseum doesn't mean I'm complacent.

      And bringing up the fact I'm a moderator here has absolutely nothing to do with me pointing out that your posts are repeating yourself on a point that has already been "heard." Feel free to continue to repeat yourself, but individuals who do that get over-looked by those in the industry. Why? Because you don't know when to let go.
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      • kumamae_33
        Rookie
        • Oct 2009
        • 90

        #348
        Re: Official NBA Live 10 Bugs and Glitches Thread

        Can you guys (devs) tone down the success rate of fadeaway shots??? Coz many fadeaway shots are going in even in Superstar difficulty. Also the cheesers are starting to exploit the fadeaway jumpshots in online.

        I believe fadeaway jumper is one of the hardest shots in the game of basketball.

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        • Benicio10
          Pro
          • Jun 2007
          • 670

          #349
          Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

          Originally posted by Pared
          Honestly, spare me all that Benicio. You've been here since '07. That complacency argument is so off base with me of all people it's beyond humorous.

          I've pointed out more to help get these games "sim" than you can even imagine. Just because I don't feel the need to repeat myself ad nauseum doesn't mean I'm complacent.

          And bringing up the fact I'm a moderator here has absolutely nothing to do with me pointing out that your posts are repeating yourself on a point that has already been "heard." Feel free to continue to repeat yourself, but individuals who do that get over-looked by those in the industry. Why? Because you don't know when to let go.
          I've been here ALOT earlier than '07. Believe me.

          You said i've spent more time complaining than discussing what the game is? The game is broken, and that's what i'm discussing. instead of having to take my word for it, we're offering visual proof.

          Again, EA said they fixed the 3 point glitch, but they didn't. without community backlash, maybe they think they did their job and focus on other areas next year? the purpose of this thread is to show EA that the patch didn't do the job, and that more attention needs to be placed to prevent 3 point money shots. we've all joked about how NBA Live 95 had money 3's from the corners, well now it's 2009 and it's not funny anymore.

          Pared, i'm not picking on you, believe me. we're all a little jaded by the sports video game industry, which continues to under-perform in game quality...

          i'll just leave with an example ... i visit macrumors.com and it consists of a passionate fanbase of mac users. when these users discuss certain products, they are imaginative, and request new innovations and technologies that may not be possible with the current economic climate ... or they'll nitpick about how a certain interface isn't as intuitive as it could be, or this could be faster, etc. these discussions are encouraged and are not suppressed by moderators. they have built a creative environment that promotes innovation, new ideas, and suggestions for current builds.

          all i ask, pared, is to not try to dismiss users who are passionate about these games and want to do everything they can to help improve them... because, it's pretty clear, that they need a quality improvement.

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          • Chairman7w
            MVP
            • Mar 2006
            • 1490

            #350
            Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

            For the record, even IF EA decided you were right and turned down 3pt percentages while covered (or whatever solution you propose), do you REALLY think the idiots would stop playing like idiots?

            Here's a hint: They won't.

            You're still gonna get the same dumb0a$$% 12-yr old kids running up and down the court, spamming the steal button, trying to steal your inbounds passes, tying to draw charges every possesion, still jackin up threes like a fool...

            Sorry, bt none of of that would change my man.
            (and none of it's EA's fault)

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #351
              Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

              With the three point issue, the team worked to make the three point percentage more realistic based on tuning the shot release, defender proximity, player skill and distance from the basket. This was a key issue that the community asked be addressed and the development team took the extra time to ensure that three point shooting is more realistic.
              Again, addressed. Not fixed... addressed. they tuned it but (like I've said plenty of times before) not enough to the liking of some.

              I still don't see anyone addressing my point that the game is what it is going to be this year, and what you expect to result by repeating yourselves.

              This issue is known here, and there isn't getting around it. The devs know, as evidenced in this quote, and I know they know it isn't acceptable enough in the eyes of some here for '11.

              Again, what else is there to accomplish at this point with these vidoes? Is beating a dead horse going to bring about any change for '10? No.

              I'm not dismissing anyone, if that is what was happening here this thread would be shut down. I'm genuinely asking what progress is made in our video games by individuals repeating themselves so often to the point where they are ignored.

              Don't be that guy. You're not doing yourself any favors.

              And macrumors is a perfect example, as that forum is full of self-loathing individuals who either hate everything Apple (yet still buy their products) or individuals who do nothing but praise their every move. I would like to see this forum express themselves in a better way, but posting about the same issue over and over isn't accomplishing that.

              The game is where it is most likely going to stay.
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              • Benicio10
                Pro
                • Jun 2007
                • 670

                #352
                Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

                Originally posted by Chairman7w
                For the record, even IF EA decided you were right and turned down 3pt percentages while covered (or whatever solution you propose), do you REALLY think the idiots would stop playing like idiots?

                Here's a hint: They won't.

                You're still gonna get the same dumb0a$$% 12-yr old kids running up and down the court, spamming the steal button, trying to steal your inbounds passes, tying to draw charges every possesion, still jackin up threes like a fool...

                Sorry, bt none of of that would change my man.
                (and none of it's EA's fault)
                but if they play like idiots, they shouldn't be rewarded, and they'd lose badly...

                if mo williams before a real game decided "hey i'm going to take every shot tonight and i'll get 100 points" would he be able to? NO. he can play that way, but it won't be a successful strategy. he wouldn't sniff anything close to 100... he'd get tired, would be forced to take off balance shots due to double and triple teams (which in this game actually go in), etc.

                playing garbage style basketball should not be successful. simple as that

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                • DJ
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 17756

                  #353
                  Re: Official NBA Live 10 Bugs and Glitches Thread

                  Replays stutter or come to a complete stop after the 2nd patch. I've had 2 games freeze up while a replay was being shown and I've had 3 other games freeze up mid-play. I have yet to have a game get to halftime since I downloaded the 2nd patch.

                  Anything I should turn on/off to help this?
                  Currently Playing:
                  MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #354
                    Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

                    But this style of play is at this point in time and now we're back to square one.

                    This still is not going anywhere. You've said this already and you're repeating yourself. Just proving my point. Almost as if you're so focused on this issue you're completely ignoring everything I'm saying.

                    I could've drawn up a script saying you'd say the same thing again.

                    Again, what do you expect to come out of you repeating yourself? A dev came in, said some rampant speculation isn't the case and he's obviously not at liberty to say and/or they can't fix it in a patch. What more do you want? Your money back? World peace? I have to make light of a situation that some obviously can't get over. What have you done the past 10 years in video game basketball?

                    It's a problem in the game. You know that. They know that. What else do you expect this year?
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                    • Benicio10
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 670

                      #355
                      Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      But this style of play is at this point in time and now we're back to square one.

                      This still is not going anywhere. You've said this already and you're repeating yourself. Just proving my point. Almost as if you're so focused on this issue you're completely ignoring everything I'm saying.

                      I could've drawn up a script saying you'd say the same thing again.

                      Again, what do you expect to come out of you repeating yourself? A dev came in, said some rampant speculation isn't the case and he's obviously not at liberty to say and/or they can't fix it in a patch. What more do you want? Your money back? World peace? I have to make light of a situation that some obviously can't get over. What have you done the past 10 years in video game basketball?

                      It's a problem in the game. You know that. They know that. What else do you expect this year?
                      you insinuate that saying an issue was "addressed" does not mean it was "fixed" ... let's not play this semantics game.

                      iminurbase came on here and basically ignored what the real issue is... i just want transparency... if he's not at liberty to talk, then tell me you're not at liberty to talk. shed some light.

                      also, because of these videos, we've isolated several issues that are contributing more to the 3pt glitch than others...it's sparked a conversation about how fatigue should be handled, and whether or not a defender being close to the shooter constitutes a "contested shot", etc.

                      we're having valid discussions about an issue that needs to be "fixed" ... sorry for assuming that the patch only "addressed" it.
                      Last edited by Benicio10; 12-17-2009, 02:24 PM.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #356
                        Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

                        Again, no real answer to my question. Just an argument posed for the sake of replying.

                        I'm done. Misery loves company and I suggest if you can't get "over it" you guys move on.
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                        • joel0078
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 754

                          #357
                          Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

                          Benecio (and everyone else who's replied and disapointed about this issue)...At this point, I'm as turned off and irritated as you guys are. Pared is correct, the game is done, it's not getting any better...Yes, its an improvement over all years past, but it's still broken and it's the little things that are broken that for some reason couldn't be fixed via patch and as usual we will have to "wait until next year".... "Wait until next year" should be EA's new motto, instead of "it's in the game".

                          Here's my advice, the same advice I intend on taking myself: Next year, don't fall for the hype. Undoubtedly the whole live 11 production team will be back in here full force sometime in the spring/summer, pumping up an improved live 11....Wait it out and buy the game after all the patches are finished. We all know games are released unfinished at this point and patches are used as a crutch to "fix it later".

                          I understand why you guys are complaining but even if the moderators don't get it, or don't agree with it, there have now been 2 mods in here that have basically asked that the topic be dropped. There's nothing else any of us can do to make the game better this year. We just have to deal with it. Shelf the game if you don't like it, trade it in on amazon or sell it on ebay or stick it to them and sell it on the website EA pays so much attention to...Craigslist!!

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                          • RxB
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 38

                            #358
                            Offensive Plays does not show up when playing online

                            Offensive Plays does not show up when playing online
                            <HR style="COLOR: #393939" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Note: I posted this on another thread...just wanted to add this here.

                            Hi, not sure if this was raised before but when i go online and play another user, i go in and change the offensive plays in the playcalling menu and when i go back in the game to call it up, it does not show up at all. It will still have the default plays originally assigned for the team. I was hoping this was fixed in the new patch.

                            My plays do show-up when i call them up when i play offline and if i'm the host playing online. This i think is a bug that needs to be addressed since what is the use of the tons of different plays they included and you can not use them? Or if the devs have a different way of doing it please let me know. I love to set half-court set plays and there were actually plays that came back from previous Live days that i would like to use.

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                            • Ballatician
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 236

                              #359
                              Re: ** 3pt glitch not fixed **

                              It seems to me at this point some people have a personal vendetta against EA. I think no matter what kind of game EA release these guys will meticulously find a problem to complain about. And they will always be successful because you know why, ITS A GAME. A game will never completely mimic real life. I think Mo Williams, Mike Bibby, etc. CAN launch 100 3s a game but you'll never see it you know why? Their coach would either sit their butt on the bench or their teammates would stop passing to them. A GAME doesn't have those type of boundaries. You can do what you want. If I dribbled into the backcourt all game would you say its EA's fault for an unrealistic amount of over and back calls? The 3 pt percentages are correct. What more can they do? You say the game rewards cheesers who play this way yet I see many posts that say otherwise. Do the guys you play WIN playing this way? If they do maybe your defense is lacking. I would like to see a video and end stats of a game where you played good defense but a cheeser still won playing this way. This issue is overblown. This is not a game killer. The game is not broken. ITS A GAME. I say dynasty stats and lack of a innovative post game are bigger issues. But like I said no matter what kind of game EA puts out they will never please everyone. I just hope they don't try and veer off the great path they are traveling with this franchise.

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                              • joker
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 340

                                #360
                                Re: Official NBA Live 10 Bugs and Glitches Thread

                                Just tried seeing if my stamina drops with mo williams compared to the other players while im sprinting with shot clock off...I had PARKER ( SG) top of the key holding the ball while i was controlling MO WILLIAMS off ball control and just sprinting side to side for a good 3 to 4 minutes ...Checked the stamina and its dropping the same amount as parker is and hes just standing still !!!

                                The stamina is only dropping toreal life gameplay minutes ....so lets say lebron is 35 minutes a game and mo williams is 33 minutes a game and even if mo williams isnt running and just stationary holding the ball while im sprinting with lebron around the court all day , lebron will still have more stamina than MO WILLIAMS cause his gametime minutes are higher.

                                ALso then messed around with other sliders ...

                                --increasing the shot alter ability & hands on perimeter to high and low trying both...It had no effect at all on either setting.... I was still able to get space with mo williams in the corner and doing backstep 3's ( HOTSPOTS) still there.

                                ---decrease the long range shooting to high then low and still shot in the 40% 's when just running around with MO WILLIAMS but i did have a feeling this wouldnt matter


                                So it falls back to

                                -- DNA OFF DRIBBLE % that needs to be dropped and
                                -- Decrease the Magnetic force field from a defender trying to guard a ball handler especially when they sprint to HOT SPOTS.
                                -- Make the players who ONLY sprint all over to LOSE THEIR STAMINA REAL FAST and slow REGENERATION of stamina

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