You will not be able to master shots with Shaq from Three or Lebron from Half court, don't even Bother you will get blown out in the first 5 minutes of the game..
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You will not be able to master shots with Shaq from Three or Lebron from Half court, don't even Bother you will get blown out in the first 5 minutes of the game..chuckcross.bandcamp.com
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I hope you're right ehh but I someone from EA should elaborate on that quote:<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><tr><td style="background-image: url("/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif" width: 37px; height: 1px;" width="37">
</td> <td style="background-image: url("/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif" width: 100%; height: 1px;" width="100%"> If people are concerned that because it is skill-based shooting you can make every shot, then you can relax. Shots are harder to make if you are further away from the basket, are being closely guarded, are a below-average shooter, or you have too much fade or momentum, among other factors.
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Yes, FIFA has good movement but the player interaction/collision system still needs a lot of work just like Live. The only attributes that matter in FIFA are speed, strength, height.Comment
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People basing the success of a game on it's name...
Wow.Comment
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I hope you're right ehh but I someone from EA should elaborate on that quote:
I'd like to hear how they are harder (smaller sweet spot, less room for error on the right stick, etc...)
Yes, FIFA has good movement but the player interaction/collision system still needs a lot of work just like Live. The only attributes that matter in FIFA are speed, strength, height.Comment
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That is exactly NOT what this thread has been about however if that's all you took from it then okay. I feel that is a complete over generalization of the intent of the thread. Just my opinion though.
@ PM I'm with you it will be interesting to see whether the formula is simple a rating rebranded after all somehow someone is going to have to say you know what shaq's 3 point window should be very small. So for Guys who make rosters will that decision be final or will our roster editors be able to fiddle with that and with all the emphasis on more of stick skill determining the outcome of the shots will you only be able to use the sliders of someone who has the same success/ difficulty level shooting the ball.
Sovartus has a real good eye so if they added to what was there and it sounds like they have then great. Initially it was sounding like out with the old here is the new... Glad to see its not that.
Let me state this clearly for my part for the overgeneralization crew. We know much more now than we did we this thread was started. That's great. Some of those answers may even have come out of the creation of this thread... maybe not. Regardless, THAT was the point of this thread.
I can already see the live protection movement gaining ground at the slightest hint the game may be improving. The game doesn't need you to protect it. If its great or a great improvement we will see that.
Here is my view of the next gen live experience...
live 06, this is going to be a brand new game were going to rebuild from scratch with a new engine so were taking out all the features but just trust us...
live 07 no really this time its a new start but its so future and new were missing a few frames but you'll get used to it. And that was a CG trailer we released but don't worry about it your game will play fine.
Live 08 Bring in successful baseball producer to run the show okay seriously guys this is it this guy turned the " insert previously great game here" he is going to do wonders with the live franchise.
....live 09 okay we have dna now its really gonna be good. You may have heard that before but were in year 2 of our 3 year turnaround... DNA fixes everything. super sim super authentic
live 10 okay we have a new gameplay producer and its back to the glory days of live.
elite 11 F the glory days its a new day and we really sincerely mean were going to change the game its not about competition We're bringing in a new hockey guy from " insert current successful game franchise here" ... This guy really knows what he's doing. Not a basketball guy but its all about creating a great new experience for the user.
I agree lets wait and see however healthy skepticism in the face of what I wrote above is not to piss off people who love the series its to lobby on behalf of the sim nation not to be forgotten in all this newness. They can sell ice water to polar bears in the frozen tundra. Their marketing is just that good. Guys who have been around awhile completely understand this.
I have seen this movie before maybe this is the real time but don't call me crazy for saying you know what... this time ... I'm going to go ahead and say show me !!!! That gentlemen is all I was saying.Last edited by Da_Czar; 06-04-2010, 02:00 PM.Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_BComment
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man Live 07 boasted of some nice footplanting technology which didnt really work out very well until Live 09 probably
and that procedural awareness video where they had Tmac following the cursor around, it ended up horrible... the whole game ended up the worst basketball game ever next to 2k4
Even now when you run the pick and roll your man is looking at the audience instead of at the ball... its weird.
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No i think they are basing it more on the games history.....EA just happen to be on the title
This is year 5 if I'm not mistaken for NBA Live/Elite on Next Gen
So will see if they finally put it all the pieces together. I don't want to hear about new people working on the game or new technology being intsalled.
This is year 5 that's all I see for this franchise....
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No i think they are basing it more on the games history.....EA just happen to be on the title
This is year 5 if I'm not mistaken for NBA Live/Elite on Next Gen
So will see if they finally put it all the pieces together. I don't want to hear about new people working on the game or new technology being intsalled.
This is year 5 that's all I see for this franchise....
If a guy doesn't produce on your team after 1-2 years don't you CUT HIS AZZ from the squad
I'm really trying to read behind the marketing song and dance that they have going. If they pull it off...great. I'm hoping they do. I think it's good for gaming and competition.
History, however, is not on their side.Comment
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But see this is the same thing people said last year when they introduced Dynamic season in the 2nd year of DNA> We thought it would be expanded especially thinking about all of the possibilities it brought.
Turned out not only did Dynamic season not work well if at all, but DNA seemed worse than the first iteration and really seemed to clash with the ratings pretty bad in alot of scenarios. The Mo Williams syndrome was one of them.
History, however, is not on their side.Comment
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EA really needs to get their football and basketball franchises up to par. Madden is getting there but taking baby steps. Live was ok this year but i bought it I think 3 times this yeah and every time it wasn't worth it lol.Comment
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Da_Czar If you're lumping in me with the "overgeneralisation crowd" or "live protection movement" then you're way off the mark.
I don't normally trust EA when it comes to basketball games but I actually think they are on to something with this real-time physics. If ever there was a chance they could make a positive change this is it. You're concerned about a hockey guy having some influence on a basketball title? These games are made by computer people ie programmers, graphic artists, developers so I couldn't care less if the guy has a background in lacrosse. It makes no difference to the quality of the game.
Having said that, this game could still turn out to be rubbish, but the new physics and control scheme gives me some optimism at least.Comment
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Da_Czar If you're lumping in me with the "overgeneralisation crowd" or "live protection movement" then you're way off the mark.
I don't normally trust EA when it comes to basketball games but I actually think they are on to something with this real-time physics. If ever there was a chance they could make a positive change this is it. You're concerned about a hockey guy having some influence on a basketball title? These games are made by computer people ie programmers, graphic artists, developers so I couldn't care less if the guy has a background in lacrosse. It makes no difference to the quality of the game.
Having said that, this game could still turn out to be rubbish, but the new physics and control scheme gives me some optimism at least.Comment
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Da_Czar If you're lumping in me with the "overgeneralisation crowd" or "live protection movement" then you're way off the mark.
I don't normally trust EA when it comes to basketball games but I actually think they are on to something with this real-time physics. If ever there was a chance they could make a positive change this is it. You're concerned about a hockey guy having some influence on a basketball title? These games are made by computer people ie programmers, graphic artists, developers so I couldn't care less if the guy has a background in lacrosse. It makes no difference to the quality of the game.
Having said that, this game could still turn out to be rubbish, but the new physics and control scheme gives me some optimism at least.
I was just trying to clarify that and Once again I don't know how clear I can be on this one particular point. I Just simply prefer ( PREFER)for the hockey man not to make basketball decisions about the game because he is admittedly not that familiar with basketball.
Just like the time some genius recommended that plays are not necessary in a basketball game and one company I think it was 2k took the plays out or did something crazy. THAT is all I'm saying and as I mentioned earlier they tried the transplanted producer theory before and it didn't work so well. It's not like there are no previous and recents facts to back me up on those points.
I have said numerous times if it's great I will play it. There can be no doubt about that in fact I will go further as long as its better than live 10 or hell live 07 hahaha I am going to play the game. My preference is that basketball guys make the basketball decisions.Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_BComment
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These games are made by computer people ie programmers, graphic artists, developers so I couldn't care less if the guy has a background in lacrosse. It makes no difference to the quality of the game.
Having said that, this game could still turn out to be rubbish, but the new physics and control scheme gives me some optimism at least.
The others whom you speak of who are necessary to turn those designs into the o's and 1's to make a game may or may not have an effect on the outcome depending on how well they do their jobs but to say that someone is the creative director of your basketball game and then to say that person makes no difference in the quality of the game ? I'm not so sure that is always correct.
Today though that's neither here nor there as he has already said Novel is in charge of the basketball decisions. GREAT ! that is all I wanted to be sure of. ITs when David might be like Novel from my stand point the pick and roll is not that important and he is in charge is when I have a problem( this is complete fiction I made it up to illustrate a point this conversation has never happened )Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_BComment
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