should an early release result in a short or long shot?

[Magno Gonzalez]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

you got my vote.
i agree the best thing would be to allow users to at least have the option to switch in case they decide not to change it.

[natedZA]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Not sure if this has been said. Releasing the ball early(on the way up) on a jumpshot in real life results in more distance/power due to you using the momentum of your jump and using the power from your legs to increase the distance of your shot. Go out and try it! When releasing late, this uses a lot more energy and takes away the momentum from your jump as you are releasing on the way down so your legs do not help with the distance and just your arms are involved; this causes a much less powerful shot . Just try it! It makes sense and this should really be changed in game.

[Live Boii]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

I see the way this is headed and I'm not feeling it.

Devs can we just get the option to use the controls as is and be able to change it.

Like shooters do with inverted controls.

[OrlandoMagicFan12]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

LOL. This is why a hockey "expert" shouldn't develop basketball games. Everyone who plays basketball knows if you release the ball early, it goes long. EA, EA, EA. 2k will always just be...better....SMH.

[thomonkey]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

I see the way this is headed and I'm not feeling it.

Devs can we just get the option to use the controls as is and be able to change it.

Like shooters do with inverted controls.

id actually prefer they had one option, and the only option was early release goes long, and late release goes short. or at least make that the default. giving users an option seems easy enough, but im not sure how different power meters will affect gameply. I mean, if the computer hangs more often, then they will miss more off the backboard with normal settings, but then we toggle the setting to the realistic power meter, and all of a sudden the computer is air balling alot of their shots. i hope that they balance the game with a realistic power meter.

[Earl1963]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Whats the release like in 2k when using the stick?

[thomonkey]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Whats the release like in 2k when using the stick?

from what i understand, in 2k early/late release don't result in a short/long or a long/short shot. it's simply perfect , good, bad release etc., and the computer will decide if you miss long short left or right, but its not one to one like the elite shot stick.

[ParisB]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Whats the release like in 2k when using the stick?

You use the right stick in 2k, but it basically works the same way as a button press (dice roll). It's just an alternate trigger button and sort of gimmicky so you feel different and innovative, but you don't have full control of the shot.

[coolcras7]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

You use the right stick in 2k, but it basically works the same way as a button press (dice roll). It's just an alternate trigger button and sort of gimmicky so you feel different and innovative, but you don't have full control of the shot.

not really it based on a players shooting percentage if a player shoots a certain percentage like 45 percent from 3 if you have a perfect released shoot you have 45 percent chance of making that shot if your release is not perfect then that percentage drops, so a perfect release will not always result in a made shoot, as I understand with Elite the shooting percentage is established before you shoot the shot because your field increase and decreasing as you move closer of farther way from the basket , so in retrospect this may result in people mastering a player shoot from a certain spot and hitting it 100 percent of the time.

[ParisB]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

not really it based on a players shooting percentage if a player shoots a certain percentage like 45 percent from 3 if you have a perfect released shoot you have 45 percent chance of making that shot if your release is not perfect then that percentage drops, so a perfect release will not always result in a made shoot, as I understand with Elite the shooting percentage is established before you shoot the shot because your field increase and decreasing as you move closer of farther way from the basket , so in retrospect this may result in people mastering a player shoot from a certain spot and hitting it 100 percent of the time.

That's what I was referring to with "dice roll". It's not a true shot stick. It's just a different method of triggering the shot, no different than a button press. It calculates several things based on the attributes of the players involved, location, and movement of the player, but the shot itself is a dice roll based on the above mentioned items. The more favorable the circumstances, the more likely the dice roll will result in a made shot.

There's reason to be concerned with skilled users being able to hit shots consistently, but I don't think it will be as easy as it sounds. Time will tell. I hope I don't play against somebody that hits 90% of all their shots, but then again if I do it will probably be the exception, not the rule.

[coolcras7]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

That's what I was referring to with "dice roll". It's not a true shot stick. It's just a different method of triggering the shot, no different than a button press. It calculates several things based on the attributes of the players involved, location, and movement of the player, but the shot itself is a dice roll based on the above mentioned items. The more favorable the circumstances, the more likely the dice roll will result in a made shot.

There's reason to be concerned with skilled users being able to hit shots consistently, but I don't think it will be as easy as it sounds. Time will tell. I hope I don't play against somebody that hits 90% of all their shots, but then again if I do it will probably be the exception, not the rule.

agreed, plus we have yet to see if an how defense affects a players shooting field besides blocking hopefully it will, plus I want to know is there a way to change your shoot like arch it higher if contested.

[ParisB]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

agreed, plus we have yet to see if an how defense affects a players shooting field besides blocking hopefully it will, plus I want to know is there a way to change your shoot like arch it higher if contested.

that would be cool if there was a modifier when shooting, maybe a shoulder button. One would trigger a high arc shot or something. Maybe bank shots should be a modifier too, instead of needing to hold the shot stick longer and make it look funny by releasing on the way down.

Honestly I don't think we'll have manual ability to arc the shot longer.

I hope player shots have real arcs to them though. Guys like Radmonovic, Fisher, Stephen Jackson etc. have high arc shots, while a Kobe has a flatter arc.

[BounceWithMe]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

I seriously doubt that they will have adjustable arcs, but that trigger bank shot seems like the better idea than holding the stick longer. I believe thats (L2 I think) the way 2k has it, and works really great. While I'm not sure what if we have to hold long to have a bank shot, will that make the release too late, and look ugly?

But anyways, I hope that shooting styles-release points will be better than in 10 where it seemed like many guys had the sweet spot while they were falling down, past the peak point.

[thomonkey]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

I seriously doubt that they will have adjustable arcs, but that trigger bank shot seems like the better idea than holding the stick longer. I believe thats (L2 I think) the way 2k has it, and works really great. While I'm not sure what if we have to hold long to have a bank shot, will that make the release too late, and look ugly?

But anyways, I hope that shooting styles-release points will be better than in 10 where it seemed like many guys had the sweet spot while they were falling down, past the peak point.

devs kinda mentioned before that they are working on the perfect release point. kinda confusing though. i think they said that the peak of the jump which is the perfect release point, is not the best looking shot. the best looking shot is on the way up near the peak. i think that they should have the perfect release point a bit before the peak so that the perfect LOOKING shot is also the perfect release. i mean, when you are shooting in a game it will be much more intuitive if you are aiming to make the shoot look the best instead of trying to release at an arbitrary point.

[thedude213]

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

I voted for early release goes long, late release goes short.

But aside from that I have a concern about this shooting system. With this shooting scheme will hanging jumpers (late release) or quick buzzer beaters (early release) always go long or short? Because this could limit the gameplay to an extent. There are many plays where Kobe, for example, hangs in the air to get his shot off over a taller defender. Or when Derek Fisher shot that 0.6 second buzzer beater against the Spurs. It seems like with this system, these shots would be possible, because the game will only trigger a good shot with releases in the "sweet spot".

I can understand and really like the lining up the shot where it will go left or right, but the release point is a little shaky.