EA why after 5 years can't we get improved animations?

[Dice]

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I went back to look at NCAA Basketball 10 and strangely enough saw that the animations are better than that of the videos I see of Live 11. Why couldn't they just used the NCAA 10 animations in Live 11?

Which brings me a little off topic, why EA gave up on the College Basketball? I thought it had potential. All they needed to do was fix the technical issues this year and next year worked more on the AI and they could have had a solid title for this year.

[Boilerbuzz]

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I went back to look at NCAA Basketball 10 and strangely enough saw that the animations are better than that of the videos I see of Live 11. Why couldn't they just used the NCAA 10 animations in Live 11?

Which brings me a little off topic, why EA gave up on the College Basketball? I thought it had potential. All they needed to do was fix the technical issues this year and next year worked more on the AI and they could have had a solid title for this year.

Why they gave up? Because people didn't buy MM and the CLC was trying to bend them over for more money. Every game has potential. But how long are you supposed to have potential before you have to start actually fulfilling it?

[Rocboyz101]

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Shadows is right, kingpnp if you bring up another 2k game in here taking another thread way off topic im going to put an end to it

That said, its funny that there was no suction in Live 08 and how they at least thought it was important to implement go to moves and stuff... why is it something that seems like its brand new now?

This is the exact same thing that im being told wasnt as important but why
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So again, its sad that this game is old and looks better and understands concepts better in certain areas

Then they have no suction either... skip to about 4:20..thats where the game starts
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Honestly man... tell me exactly what the advantages are again really?

It really is a shame that these videos look better than elite in some areas. Imagine if they stuck with the go to moves thing and built on it ever year up until now? Add that to what you had with live 10 and your looking at a pretty good game by now.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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I'm convinced they don't care, bottom line IMO.

They have heard ours opinions over and over again with no regard to anything. Oh Well.

But what is "our" opinion. If you ask me Elite's vision is dandy I just question the tactics and ability to achive their vision. At least they have the vision. Thats the important thing. Everything else can fall in if they have that. It might take a while. EA's Lakers vs Celtics was a novel classic of its day but it wasnt until Live 95 that EA had a really great playing game.

[Tomba]

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I have yet to see NBA Elite from a side view/broadcast cam. Only then can i judge. Right now I personally feel that a basketball game does not look right from this angle.

The direction they're taking is clear. Make it feel like YOU ARE on the court.

To comment with animations i'm with Play on this one as i too have edited this game(well NBA Live now) for the last 5 years in a row and i know everything about it. I agree with someone here that the jump in animations from Live to NCAA 10 were nice and a bit more varied than Live 10 last year, but nobody really stuck around long enough to play NCAA 10 given it's vast improvement over 10 the way people love CH2k8 here.

I don't know, guess we gotta find something to love in every game we get every year because if we don't we don't play anything and by the way things are looking a lot of sports games are becoming more of a commodity thats worth keeping or letting go to the companies who make them...

[RoyalBoyle78]

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But what is "our" opinion. If you ask me Elite's vision is dandy I just question the tactics and ability to achive their vision. At least they have the vision. Thats the important thing. Everything else can fall in if they have that. It might take a while. EA's Lakers vs Celtics was a novel classic of its day but it wasnt until Live 95 that EA had a really great playing game.

from what I have seen so far, it looks lie a step back from last year, Visually and Game-play wise, EA was going in right direction with LIVE 10, Elite 11 lookd like there something wrong.

[Muzyk23]

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^ posts like this one make you banned, especially when you are a ROOKIE

[P-Dub]

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Excellent thread.

Several of you asked why they couldn't use Live 10 animations in Elite 11. I asked that question at the community event. The answer I remember getting was "because of our new mo cap system."

I think EA was prepared for the negative responses to how this years game looks visually. They knew going in that replacing every animation would not look pretty and realistic in the first year.

You look at the quick videos and they are trying to show you why RTP is good or the future of bball gaming because of the variety of possibilities that it can create on the court. They are trying to create a sandbox-like game where things can look and react differently each time. With the canned 2-man animations that emulate physical contact, you get the same contextual scenario every time.

[fatleg3]

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Excellent thread.

Several of you asked why they couldn't use Live 10 animations in Elite 11. I asked that question at the community event. The answer I remember getting was "because of our new mo cap system."

I think EA was prepared for the negative responses to how this years game looks visually. They knew going in that replacing every animation would not look pretty and realistic in the first year.

You look at the quick videos and they are trying to show you why RTP is good or the future of bball gaming because of the variety of possibilities that it can create on the court. They are trying to create a sandbox-like game where things can look and react differently each time. With the canned 2-man animations that emulate physical contact, you get the same contextual scenario every time.

Maybe im wrong but with rtp could they be buliding towards making there game like backbreaker were anything can happen and every time you come into contact with someone it will look different or something like that?

[Killa Season]

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Maybe im wrong but with rtp could they be buliding towards making there game like backbreaker were anything can happen and every time you come into contact with someone it will look different or something like that?

Thats exactly what they are trying to do.

[Jesus]

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Maybe im wrong but with rtp could they be buliding towards making there game like backbreaker were anything can happen and every time you come into contact with someone it will look different or something like that?

The functionality doesn't even seem to be the same. Even at its roots.

But as far as animations go, i have been saying for some time now that EA does not seem to have the capability to add a tremendous amount animations. From Madden to Live to Fight Night the number of animations is faaaar below what is needed.

[fatleg3]

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The functionality doesn't even seem to be the same. Even at its roots.

But as far as animations go, i have been saying for some time now that EA does not seem to have the capability to add a tremendous amount animations. From Madden to Live to Fight Night the number of animations is faaaar below what is needed.

You may be right about the functionality but i mean as far as the idea of rtp. Remember this is the first year that the have put it in a basketball game. Yea i know gamebreaker did a good job on it there first year put they have diffrent game engines.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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Maybe im wrong but with rtp could they be buliding towards making there game like backbreaker were anything can happen and every time you come into contact with someone it will look different or something like that?

Its going to be tough. Backbreaker uses a system thats similar to robotics.

[fatleg3]

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Its going to be tough. Backbreaker uses a system thats similar to robotics.

O ok. i didnt know that. I hope the can get their as far as rtp goes though. Imagine how good the game can be if it got on that same level with improved animations

[2kfanatic]

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The functionality doesn't even seem to be the same. Even at its roots.

But as far as animations go, i have been saying for some time now that EA does not seem to have the capability to add a tremendous amount animations. From Madden to Live to Fight Night the number of animations is faaaar below what is needed.

Even so, if they can't add many then why not replace the existing with better ones? I'm talking about jumpshots, simple crossovers, idle dribbling, offball sprinting, jumping for a rebound, blocking shots, passing etc.... animations that does not concern physics and will not affect the controls that much.