Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

[RayRay34]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

Oh and one more thing.... If this game makes it to a 15...... Please for the love of god, bring in someone to mo-cap rebounding!! I swear they have been using the same rebounding animation since live 97 on the playstation.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

Oh and one more thing.... If this game makes it to a 15...... Please for the love of god, bring in someone to mo-cap rebounding!! I swear they have been using the same rebounding animation since live 97 on the playstation.

Hey! I like the rebounding animations. Why replace something that looks right? :P

[RayRay34]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

So I caved and picked up a copy. Don't know if I'll open it until I try the demo. If I do I'll give you my unbiased opinion

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

So much wrong here. First, why do you guys assume that the other streamers don't know basketball? Are you a coach that has the power to judge basketball IQ by watching people playing a video game? Second, you question how many video someone has seen because they call out your flawed logic? Third, you seem to imply that this game isn't going to have any cheese. You haven't played the game then. You go out of your way to defend the videos, but lose any real objectivity.

First, you can tell someones basketball I.Q by the way they play a basketball sim or basketball in general, it's obvious if you know basketball. I could be a coach yes, and I actually refereed so yes I can judge basketball I.Q, but you're assuming I said they don't know basketball. If I'm running a 2-3 zone and you don't know to get someone in the middle of the zone to beat it then you lack basketball I.Q. Even a grade school player could see the basketball mistakes most streamers are making.

Second, I never questioned anything you're assuming.

Third, again you're assuming, don't go by what you think I mean, go by what I mean, I never said it won't have cheese. I just haven't seen any so far, which is a good sign.

Not trying to be rude, but just trying to explain myself.

[Boilerbuzz]

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First, you can tell someones basketball I.Q by the way they play a basketball sim or basketball in general, it's obvious if you know basketball.

That's not true. Put Phil Jackson on the sticks and watch the comedy ensue. This is such a high brow statement, it's crazy.

I could be a coach yes, and I actually refereed so yes I can judge basketball I.Q, but you're assuming I said they don't know basketball.

Oh come on, man. You clearly imply that they don't know basketball. Don't backpedal now.

If I'm running a 2-3 zone and you don't know to get someone in the middle of the zone to beat it then you lack basketball I.Q. Even a grade school player could see the basketball mistakes most streamers are making.

How can you detect a zone in a game where the offense isn't in motion? I've YET to see the AI call a zone in the 5 games I've played.

Third, again you're assuming, don't go by what you think I mean, go by what I mean, I never said it won't have cheese. I just haven't seen any so far, which is a good sign.

You can see zones, but you can't see the paint cheesing? Really!?

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

That's not true. Put Phil Jackson on the sticks and watch the comedy ensue. This is such a high brow statement, it's crazy.



Oh come on, man. You clearly imply that they don't know basketball. Don't backpedal now.



How can you detect a zone in a game where the offense isn't in motion? I've YET to see the AI call a zone in the 5 games I've played.



You can see zones, but you can't see the paint cheesing? Really!?

It's obvious you just like to argue you're not even making real points, you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. You can tell a 2-3 zone from miles away, I've yet to see something in the game exploited (cheese). I didn't imply it, their game play did. Maybe you gave the A.i no reason to play a zone, it is based on strategy, and Phil Jackson is like 60 something years old, put John Madden on Madden and see what happens there, cultural issue really.

I just like the game, nothing really going to change my mind. I like the basketball aspects I see, and the fundamentals along with the stick skills necessary to win being displayed.

[Boilerbuzz]

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It's obvious you just like to argue you're not even making real points, you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. You can tell a 2-3 zone from miles away, I've yet to see something in the game exploited (cheese). I didn't imply it, their game play did. Maybe you gave the A.i no reason to play a zone, it is based on strategy, and Phil Jackson is like 60 something years old, put John Madden on Madden and see what happens there, cultural issue really.

I just like the game, nothing really going to change my mind. I like the basketball aspects I see, and the fundamentals along with the stick skills necessary to win being displayed.

Yeah, I just LOVE to argue. Gives me such a rush. My points were pretty clear. If you can't see them, that's on you.

I don't care if you like the game or not. I didn't call out your opinion of the game. I just called you on your assumptions. You don't have the game, yet you can criticize people that don't like it or play the way you think they should. All while claiming to be a basketball expert that can see zones when defenders and offensive players are not moving.

OK, since there are no young NBA coaches (Brad Stevens), we'll use players. Have you seen a video of an NBA players playing a video game? There are few on Youtube. Many of them, according to your theory, apparently have low basketball IQs as well.

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

I see them, but you can just forget about it man. I'm finished, until I can get a PS4 and get NBA Live 14 and stream myself people won't understand. Maybe Scott OG will put out another stream soon.

[kingpnp3]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

It's obvious you just like to argue you're not even making real points, you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. You can tell a 2-3 zone from miles away, I've yet to see something in the game exploited (cheese). I didn't imply it, their game play did. Maybe you gave the A.i no reason to play a zone, it is based on strategy, and Phil Jackson is like 60 something years old, put John Madden on Madden and see what happens there, cultural issue really.

I just like the game, nothing really going to change my mind. I like the basketball aspects I see, and the fundamentals along with the stick skills necessary to win being displayed.

what you're saying is true. but lets discuss what boiler said when he brought up phil. phil doesnt understand or know the controls for nba live 14. even though he's a basketball genius.
on the other hand you're saying those guys you've seen play dont have a high hoop iq.

now let me add the phil jackson negative back into it. how many of us know the controls for nba live 14? NON of us. that means the vids you are seeing are of people with LOW bball iq's, as well as Low understanding of the nba live 14 controls. so no wonder when they play it looks like a questionable game at BEST.

give me two people playing one another that both know basketball. both know the nba live 14 controls. give me a people playing 1 vs the cpu. where the human has a good basketball IQ and is very good with the controls.

you have not seen that yet minus scott playing. thats because the game is to knew and we've all been playing 2k for the past few years. so thats the only control scheme we know. it will take a good 2 weeks to break that 2k habit of controls and to familiarize yourself with live's controls to the point where you dont have to pause and look up the controls in the menu to do advanced moves.

THEN and only then can you find out how sim this game can be. now if its truly sim based. you will then have to pit a cheeser/exploit abuser that knows nba live 14 and its controls very very well vs a high bball iq player that also knows nba live 14's controls really really well. then watch that game. if the cheeser can cheese his way to a victory or can cheese his way to a close game. its not SIM enough.

cheeser use the animations against you. they know what moves on the control will call up certain animations which will make the defense or offense react a certain way.

for example. 2k cheesers even in 2k13 (current gen) already know they can run/walk side to side at the top (behind the 3 point line) and the cpu defenders will lose focus on the ball. and two will go one way while it leaves a huge whole for the dribble to drive thru. not all cheesers know how to do this YET. but its been in 2k games since 2k11 i believe.

now when they made those animations and what they thought was sim. they did so by making the cpu defenders move to the ball. if the ball moves then they move. attempting to keep the dribbler from penetrating. what they never fixed is their awareness if the guy shifts back the other direction quickly. the cpu defenders should not be so lost they can never recover.

remember i said dribbling side to side, not passing it from one side to the other. thats different. you wont be able to keep up with a passed ball even in real life. and you will have a lane open up.

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

Live stream again tonight, you guys can see.

[fluent2332]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

The amount of control you have on offense in this game is unreal.

That breakdown of the controls was eye-opening to say the least!

[m1ke_nyc]

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Saw some good things watching O.G. play.

[yungflo]

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Nothing but love for OG

[magicman32]

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The same 3 dudes over hyping this garbage. Just played this game and it's terrible. Not next gen, sluggish and horrible/generic animations.

Live 10 had more contact in the paint and had more realistic/signature animations. This isn't a $60 game.


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[m1ke_nyc]

Re: Scott O'Gallagher live stream at 10

The same 3 dudes over hyping this garbage. Just played this game and it's terrible. Not next gen, sluggish and horrible/generic animations.

Live 10 had more contact in the paint and had more realistic/signature animations. This isn't a $60 game.


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Well anyone who was expecting this game to be some great game is a fool. I agree the game is not worth $60 and if I ever pick it up, it will be with atleast a 50% price drop. But I still feel like they have developed a foundation to build off of. Just gotta stay the course. The game is gonna do bad in sales the question is will EA scrap the series because of that or will they give the dev team a few years to work on the game and "hopefully" come up with a solid product.