Did they adjust gameplay again with latest update?

[Calvenn]

Re: Did they adjust gameplay again with latest update?

Damn guys, I don't know what to say. We all clearly have different playing styles so obviously it would be nice if we had Sliders or the option to edit. Unfortunately no word on if that will be possible this year! I sure hope they will do everything in their power to bring this wish to reality! This must be respected.

Now that I have said this, and I'm shocked with what I'm about to say (keep in mind I created a thread and came up with defensive settings in order to find more balance in user and cpu scoring post 2nd patch) however, after my 3rd game in Dynasty mode I'm excited again with default settings on Superstar ( not quite there in terms of cpu being able to hit as much shots as with my settings but close and overall defense I like better with default settings now). The game played so well I had to in fact double check to make sure I was not playing on All Star or using my modified defensive settings! I hit all kinds of shots, specifically mid range shots with or without screens ( your players feet must be set and shot motion good) at ok or fairly realistic rates. The Cpu appeared to do the same!

Superstars are standing out much better. Last game Paul George almost single handedly led the Pacers to a win. Bad news, late game AI is still absent, even with accelerated clock turned off! This really needs to be addressed!

Otherwise, I would say they should continue with tweaks and such but I'm shocked with how the game is playing now. The question is exactly when did these changes take place? I still feel something was done with gameplay today as a continuation of their efforts to correcting their " over correction ".

Will continue to play and provide observations!

[Gotmadskillzson]

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I hope it isn't the case of Dynasty plays different then Tip Off games like CFM plays different then Exhibition games in Madden.

[Calvenn]

Re: Did they adjust gameplay again with latest update?

Honestly, I think it does. I normally find better competition in Dynasty. Who knows what else is different in this mode? Please try a quick Dynasty game and let us know about your experience.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Dynasty plays a little bit better in the way the CPU misses more shots compared to Tip Off games. And User shots will fall if you are wide open. However it seems like if a defender is within 5 feet of you, the chances of you making a shot is about 45%.

That contested shot thing seems be buggy.



This was called a contested shot in my Dynasty game. I couldn't believe it. In real life, Lebron, Steph Curry, Mike Miller, Damian Lilliard, Durant, and Harden would hit that all day, not in Live 15 though, brick after brick. So that made me go into the instant replay a hell of a lot after every contested shot and guarded shot. It seems to be regardless of how close or far away the defender is, if their arm is leaning towards you the game will call it a contested shot. But if their arms are straight up in the air or just at their sides, it will be called guarded shot.

EA needs to fix that. Your chances of making a shot shouldn't automatically take a penalty just because a defender is within 5 feet of you and his arm is leaning towards your direction. The only way your shot should be effected is if the defender is up in your grill, just inches away from you or at least 1 step away. Especially for superstars of the team.

CPU still pretty much get 90% of their points in the paint. That is their preferred method of scoring, other then 3's. No midrange game from them at all.

[The 24th Letter]

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Thanks for posting that GotMad, provides a lot of insight on as to why those shot's are missing...and what I suspected.

Would love to pull off some of these step backs, nice looking shots off size ups...but it's not really worth it how it exists now...

They also need to tweak the A.I logic on how close they play you in the mid range area, as well as how they respond to jab steps....I probably drew 6-7 fouls off jump shots last night

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Yeah pretty much all my fouls by the CPU comes from me driving to the hole and getting fouled on a layup attempt. It is the same way for the CPU when they attempt a layup. Not many fouls off jump shots. Do get 3 second in the key called on the CPU a couple of times a game.

But if I or the CPU never drive to the hole, I will probably only average 5 fouls per a game for myself and the CPU would never see the free throw line because I rarely foul them on jump shots. I don't think I ever saw the CPU called for a reach in foul because they very rarely attempt to steal the ball from you. Rarely see over the back called as well. Oh well, I am use to a lack of fouls called in EA Sports games because it is the common theme among all their sports games.

It is a shame really because the game looks good in ESPN camera. And I do love the walk up animation when you are walking the ball up the court. The game just have issues that makes me want to snap a controller in half. Haven't played today with the latest update so I don't know how it plays today. That is the weird thing about this game, they update on a daily basis and stuff changes everyday.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Still can't buy an outside or midrange shot.

[Calvenn]

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Yeah pretty much all my fouls by the CPU comes from me driving to the hole and getting fouled on a layup attempt. It is the same way for the CPU when they attempt a layup. Not many fouls off jump shots. Do get 3 second in the key called on the CPU a couple of times a game.

But if I or the CPU never drive to the hole, I will probably only average 5 fouls per a game for myself and the CPU would never see the free throw line because I rarely foul them on jump shots. I don't think I ever saw the CPU called for a reach in foul because they very rarely attempt to steal the ball from you. Rarely see over the back called as well. Oh well, I am use to a lack of fouls called in EA Sports games because it is the common theme among all their sports games.

It is a shame really because the game looks good in ESPN camera. And I do love the walk up animation when you are walking the ball up the court. The game just have issues that makes me want to snap a controller in half. Haven't played today with the latest update so I don't know how it plays today. That is the weird thing about this game, they update on a daily basis and stuff changes everyday.

You may have already however is your Shooting foul slider all the way up? I had to turn mine down pre patch because they were being called way too often. Reach in fouls are rare for the cpu though.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: Did they adjust gameplay again with latest update?

You may have already however is your Shooting foul slider all the way up? I had to turn mine down pre patch because they were being called way too often. Reach in fouls are rare for the cpu though.

All my fouls been on 100 since day 1 release. That was the 1st thing I did when I got the game. Heck that is the 1st thing I do on every sports game I buy, max out all penalties.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Finally got to sign into PSN. Got the latest synergy update and played the Lakers vs Bulls Christmas game.



Instead of fixing the User shooting, they made the CPU shooting just as bad. Some odd things happened in this game.

1. The point guards for both teams only subbed out ONCE the entire game on 12 minute quarters.

2. 3 of the Lakers starters only subbed out once the entire game.

I pretty much won the game by spamming the paint with Rose. Mid-range and 3pt shot attempts still miss too often when you are WIDE OPEN. There were a lot more shooting fouls on mid-range attempts though. Post shots hit a tad bit more often then it has all week. A lot of tip dunks this game, which I don't mind, but just something I noticed.

Lakers did the same 2 things the ENTIRE game:

1. Tried to drive to the hole with the PG.

OR

2. PG will dribble at the 3pt line for 10 seconds, then swing it to the shooting guard or small forward and they would immediately pass it to the Center who would attempt some funky looking post shot.

[Rob. D]

Re: Did they adjust gameplay again with latest update?

Lakers did the same 2 things the ENTIRE game:

1. Tried to drive to the hole with the PG.

OR

2. PG will dribble at the 3pt line for 10 seconds, then swing it to the shooting guard or small forward and they would immediately pass it to the Center who would attempt some funky looking post shot.

I can vouch... CPU AI seems to have taken a step backward. PG will sit and dribble the entire shot clock sometimes.

[The 24th Letter]

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Posted the same thing a couple of days back.

The A.I has taken a complete nosedive...not sure what happened.

[Calvenn]

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You guys are scaring me with this news. I haven't been able to log into PSN network since yesterday so have not been able to update with Synergy since. I truly hope this is not the case. WTF can you confirm and has this been brought to your attention? Anyone else experience the same?

[WTF]

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I can't confirm. My last games showed awesome movement, but that could have changed. I captured some nice plays by the cpu that I hadn't seen, but again, it seems like all of that can change by a simple update from Synergy.

[Jano]

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I've been seeing a lot pg passes to SG who then dumps it to the big man. It seems like they are always running the simple post up plays.