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  • nba_baller
    Rookie
    • Jun 2004
    • 98

    #16
    Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

    Originally posted by JOEdellis
    2K defined perfectly, specially the LOOKED part. VC should focus on animation for their 2k series, it still looks sort of sluggish compared to Live's more fluid animation. it looks good do, but looks are not everything...SPECIALLY in gaming.
    You are so biased it's not even funny. THere's no way you can say that the 2k animations aren't fluid.
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    • nba_baller
      Rookie
      • Jun 2004
      • 98

      #17
      Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

      Originally posted by JOEdellis
      2K defined perfectly, specially the LOOKED part. VC should focus on animation for their 2k series, it still looks sort of sluggish compared to Live's more fluid animation. it looks good do, but looks are not everything...SPECIALLY in gaming.
      You are so biased it's not even funny. THere's no way you can say that the 2k animations aren't fluid.
      Any white boy who thinks he knows my struggle
      Cause he listens to Pac and his adrenaline doubles
      Now I ain't got problems with you being yourself
      But when you front and use the N word, it just don't help
      I might not trip, and your friends'll laugh at you
      But I know some real ****** that'll straight up slap you
      Now you could be down, but let's act growed up
      Cause we ain't the same color when police show up

      -Murs

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      • SylentKnyt
        Rookie
        • Jul 2004
        • 48

        #18
        Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

        Originally posted by nba_baller
        You are so biased it's not even funny. THere's no way you can say that the 2k animations aren't fluid.
        They're definitely more fluid in 2K5 than in 2K4. But I don't think they're on Lives level. The graphics in ESPN are better no doubt, but they're still behind as far as the fluidity in the animations. Check out the tip-in video for Live, look at some of those putback dunks and you'll see what I mean.

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        • SylentKnyt
          Rookie
          • Jul 2004
          • 48

          #19
          Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

          Originally posted by nba_baller
          You are so biased it's not even funny. THere's no way you can say that the 2k animations aren't fluid.
          They're definitely more fluid in 2K5 than in 2K4. But I don't think they're on Lives level. The graphics in ESPN are better no doubt, but they're still behind as far as the fluidity in the animations. Check out the tip-in video for Live, look at some of those putback dunks and you'll see what I mean.

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          • Miles_Yuhas
            MVP
            • Mar 2004
            • 2689

            #20
            Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

            Originally posted by truballer4life
            Live plays more realistic in my opinion. Last year 2k4 felt wierd the isomotion moves were weak and i hate the isomotion defense and the shooting is ugly in last years and this year but i like th running shot they added and they need to fix the dunking period, someone with an eighty should do the some dunks as someone with a ninety.
            I agree

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            • Miles_Yuhas
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 2689

              #21
              Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

              Originally posted by truballer4life
              Live plays more realistic in my opinion. Last year 2k4 felt wierd the isomotion moves were weak and i hate the isomotion defense and the shooting is ugly in last years and this year but i like th running shot they added and they need to fix the dunking period, someone with an eighty should do the some dunks as someone with a ninety.
              I agree

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              • Muzyk23
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 4192

                #22
                Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                Espn animations are better, more realistic.. just take a look at the videos..
                player sliding ( skating ) is a great animation for you guys? I don't think so..
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                • Muzyk23
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 4192

                  #23
                  Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                  Espn animations are better, more realistic.. just take a look at the videos..
                  player sliding ( skating ) is a great animation for you guys? I don't think so..
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                  • Muzyk23
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 4192

                    #24
                    Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                    but I must add that Live looks better than last year
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                    • Muzyk23
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4192

                      #25
                      Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                      but I must add that Live looks better than last year
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                      • Court_vision
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 8290

                        #26
                        Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                        Originally posted by JOEdellis
                        1 reason why>>>

                        10 MAN-MOCAP, 2k never has that so their animations are just random and not fluid like a real life 5-on-5 game.

                        Animation>>>>graphics and flash.
                        10 man mo cap is a great step forward, I'll give you that.

                        However, I don't think it truely takes 'realism' any higher. The key thing for that is authentic play sets.

                        Ie, in LIVE...you just never see screens and cuts.

                        The players just kind of ghost / slide all over the court.

                        You never see Iverson or RIP or Reggie sprint back...and forth...and cut etc.

                        The ball handler video of ESPN 2K5 shows Iverson doing this. Inside Drive used to have it also. Both "achieved" this through authentic play sets.

                        LIVE's mo cap is great, but it would be even better if they implemented real play books...

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                        • Court_vision
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 8290

                          #27
                          Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                          Originally posted by JOEdellis
                          1 reason why>>>

                          10 MAN-MOCAP, 2k never has that so their animations are just random and not fluid like a real life 5-on-5 game.

                          Animation>>>>graphics and flash.
                          10 man mo cap is a great step forward, I'll give you that.

                          However, I don't think it truely takes 'realism' any higher. The key thing for that is authentic play sets.

                          Ie, in LIVE...you just never see screens and cuts.

                          The players just kind of ghost / slide all over the court.

                          You never see Iverson or RIP or Reggie sprint back...and forth...and cut etc.

                          The ball handler video of ESPN 2K5 shows Iverson doing this. Inside Drive used to have it also. Both "achieved" this through authentic play sets.

                          LIVE's mo cap is great, but it would be even better if they implemented real play books...

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                          • RubenDouglas
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • May 2003
                            • 11202

                            #28
                            Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                            Originally posted by SylentKnyt
                            They're definitely more fluid in 2K5 than in 2K4. But I don't think they're on Lives level. The graphics in ESPN are better no doubt, but they're still behind as far as the fluidity in the animations. Check out the tip-in video for Live, look at some of those putback dunks and you'll see what I mean.

                            oh man.. i dont know what kind of animations VC keeps year after year but putbacks are old, like 4 years old... and Live/EA say its "new"... VC does the same thing with hopstep but its just off as far as live is pushing the putbacks.. they were in nba 2k2... layup tip ins and dunk tip ins..

                            It's just the way the business is I guess.. to take an idea that isnt yours and say it is... thats a definition of plagerism... IMO ( ).

                            At least they feed off each others artist abilities and try to outdo one another. Except for the fact Live's graphics suck and they make way more money... i can never understand that.... seriously..

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                            • RubenDouglas
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • May 2003
                              • 11202

                              #29
                              Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                              Originally posted by SylentKnyt
                              They're definitely more fluid in 2K5 than in 2K4. But I don't think they're on Lives level. The graphics in ESPN are better no doubt, but they're still behind as far as the fluidity in the animations. Check out the tip-in video for Live, look at some of those putback dunks and you'll see what I mean.

                              oh man.. i dont know what kind of animations VC keeps year after year but putbacks are old, like 4 years old... and Live/EA say its "new"... VC does the same thing with hopstep but its just off as far as live is pushing the putbacks.. they were in nba 2k2... layup tip ins and dunk tip ins..

                              It's just the way the business is I guess.. to take an idea that isnt yours and say it is... thats a definition of plagerism... IMO ( ).

                              At least they feed off each others artist abilities and try to outdo one another. Except for the fact Live's graphics suck and they make way more money... i can never understand that.... seriously..

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                              • rawdog805
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 2788

                                #30
                                Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                                Originally posted by WallyHoppIII
                                oh man.. i dont know what kind of animations VC keeps year after year but putbacks are old, like 4 years old... and Live/EA say its "new"... VC does the same thing with hopstep but its just off as far as live is pushing the putbacks.. they were in nba 2k2... layup tip ins and dunk tip ins..

                                It's just the way the business is I guess.. to take an idea that isnt yours and say it is... thats a definition of plagerism... IMO ( ).

                                At least they feed off each others artist abilities and try to outdo one another. Except for the fact Live's graphics suck and they make way more money... i can never understand that.... seriously..
                                Yeah kinda like Live had Freestyle - then ESPN said ohh we got ISOmotion..

                                Live had Freestyle Air - then ESPN said Oh you can change your shot in midair..

                                Live had Franchise - then ESPN got Franchise...

                                Live had Authentic sneakers - now this year ESPN has Official Reebok sneakers and create your own shoe..

                                and as you said live has Pro Hop - now ESPN had Hop Step

                                hahaha

                                Live is Innovative and not scared to try new things, while ESPN waits for live to implement things and then copies them.....
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