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  • RoyalBoyle78
    Aka."Footballforever"
    • May 2003
    • 23918

    #91
    Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

    Originally posted by rawdog805
    As I said how in the world can you guys still be loyal to ESPN after the debacle of last years version?? I dont understand it... I mean I understand that it's 19 bux but damn..

    If ESPN is better than Live this year I will make a topic stating that I was totally wrong, and I will apologize, but I dont see that happening going off of last year..

    Well LIVE"04" had it share of problems too, and frankly what the hell did EA do this year to make Live better then last year, please don't say ASW, I think LIVE took a step backwards in the grpahics department. ESPN has redone a lot of ther game this year, read the producer Q/A. They both we be good games, I think ESPN looks a lot more appealing.
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    • rawdog805
      MVP
      • Dec 2002
      • 2788

      #92
      Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

      Originally posted by FootballForever
      Well LIVE"04" had it share of problems too, and frankly what the hell did EA do this year to make Live better then last year, please don't say ASW, I think LIVE took a step backwards in the grpahics department. ESPN has redone a lot of ther game this year, read the producer Q/A. They both we be good games, I think ESPN looks a lot more appealing.
      Live did have its share of problems, I agree... But ESPN was darn near unplayable it was so bad... Cmon man the only thing you guys talk about when comparing ESPN to Live is the DAMN GRAPHICS..... Get over it, graphics don't make a good basketball game.... ESPN 2k4 proved that..

      Word to the Wise, Stop Talking about ESPN's graphics... Oh you cant because that's all ESPN had last year...hahah
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      • rawdog805
        MVP
        • Dec 2002
        • 2788

        #93
        Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

        Originally posted by FootballForever
        Well LIVE"04" had it share of problems too, and frankly what the hell did EA do this year to make Live better then last year, please don't say ASW, I think LIVE took a step backwards in the grpahics department. ESPN has redone a lot of ther game this year, read the producer Q/A. They both we be good games, I think ESPN looks a lot more appealing.
        Live did have its share of problems, I agree... But ESPN was darn near unplayable it was so bad... Cmon man the only thing you guys talk about when comparing ESPN to Live is the DAMN GRAPHICS..... Get over it, graphics don't make a good basketball game.... ESPN 2k4 proved that..

        Word to the Wise, Stop Talking about ESPN's graphics... Oh you cant because that's all ESPN had last year...hahah
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        • RubenDouglas
          Hall Of Fame
          • May 2003
          • 11202

          #94
          Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

          Originally posted by rawdog805
          Live did have its share of problems, I agree... But ESPN was darn near unplayable it was so bad... Cmon man the only thing you guys talk about when comparing ESPN to Live is the DAMN GRAPHICS..... Get over it, graphics don't make a good basketball game.... ESPN 2k4 proved that..

          Word to the Wise, Stop Talking about ESPN's graphics... Oh you cant because that's all ESPN had last year...hahah
          lol. we can't have constructive criticism about a game? I mean its like saying, "oh I love the honda accord 2001 and 2002 editions, but the 2003 edition had a major brake flaw and was totally undriveable" and although that is true, why cant we have hope for the "new product".

          I dont get it.. I love both games but i dont have the mentality of fans of a sports game... I play whats better.. I dont criticism other games and call out there extreme flaws every chance I get.


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          • RubenDouglas
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2003
            • 11202

            #95
            Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

            Originally posted by rawdog805
            Live did have its share of problems, I agree... But ESPN was darn near unplayable it was so bad... Cmon man the only thing you guys talk about when comparing ESPN to Live is the DAMN GRAPHICS..... Get over it, graphics don't make a good basketball game.... ESPN 2k4 proved that..

            Word to the Wise, Stop Talking about ESPN's graphics... Oh you cant because that's all ESPN had last year...hahah
            lol. we can't have constructive criticism about a game? I mean its like saying, "oh I love the honda accord 2001 and 2002 editions, but the 2003 edition had a major brake flaw and was totally undriveable" and although that is true, why cant we have hope for the "new product".

            I dont get it.. I love both games but i dont have the mentality of fans of a sports game... I play whats better.. I dont criticism other games and call out there extreme flaws every chance I get.


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            • RoyalBoyle78
              Aka."Footballforever"
              • May 2003
              • 23918

              #96
              Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

              Originally posted by rawdog805
              Live did have its share of problems, I agree... But ESPN was darn near unplayable it was so bad... Cmon man the only thing you guys talk about when comparing ESPN to Live is the DAMN GRAPHICS..... Get over it, graphics don't make a good basketball game.... ESPN 2k4 proved that..

              Word to the Wise, Stop Talking about ESPN's graphics... Oh you cant because that's all ESPN had last year...hahah
              First and formost ESPN 2k4 did suck last year, it was not unplayable like you say, I did own LIVE 04 and thougt it was better. First of all half of you EA fans just think your games are always the best anyway, your wrong on that one. It's not all about graphics either, but I sure as hell want my game to look pretty good and not have all the players look skinny in my game, Bottom line is ESPN is a lot more realistic then any of EA games IMO. Take it for what is or take it nowhere I could careless I just don't think LIVE did really anything to improve it game this year
              Last edited by RoyalBoyle78; 09-20-2004, 11:24 AM.
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              • RoyalBoyle78
                Aka."Footballforever"
                • May 2003
                • 23918

                #97
                Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                Originally posted by rawdog805
                Live did have its share of problems, I agree... But ESPN was darn near unplayable it was so bad... Cmon man the only thing you guys talk about when comparing ESPN to Live is the DAMN GRAPHICS..... Get over it, graphics don't make a good basketball game.... ESPN 2k4 proved that..

                Word to the Wise, Stop Talking about ESPN's graphics... Oh you cant because that's all ESPN had last year...hahah
                First and formost ESPN 2k4 did suck last year, it was not unplayable like you say, I did own LIVE 04 and thougt it was better. First of all half of you EA fans just think your games are always the best anyway, your wrong on that one. It's not all about graphics either, but I sure as hell want my game to look pretty good and not have all the players look skinny in my game, Bottom line is ESPN is a lot more realistic then any of EA games IMO. Take it for what is or take it nowhere I could careless I just don't think LIVE did really anything to improve it game this year
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                • Sark
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 144

                  #98
                  Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                  Originally posted by rawdog805
                  change shot in midair?? because Live created this...
                  Not to play devil's advocate, but I saw the change shot in Konami's Run & Gun arcade game, before there were in NBA Live.

                  Onto the real matter of the post. I was really disappointed in ESPN 2k4 last year, but I really liked Live 2004 after totally hating 2003. I agree with some points where it may look nice, but the comp isn't really running any play sets. It felt canned (and it was.)

                  I'm just waiting for both so I can enjoy a great game of video hoops.

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                  • Sark
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 144

                    #99
                    Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                    Originally posted by rawdog805
                    change shot in midair?? because Live created this...
                    Not to play devil's advocate, but I saw the change shot in Konami's Run & Gun arcade game, before there were in NBA Live.

                    Onto the real matter of the post. I was really disappointed in ESPN 2k4 last year, but I really liked Live 2004 after totally hating 2003. I agree with some points where it may look nice, but the comp isn't really running any play sets. It felt canned (and it was.)

                    I'm just waiting for both so I can enjoy a great game of video hoops.

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                    • RoyalBoyle78
                      Aka."Footballforever"
                      • May 2003
                      • 23918

                      #100
                      Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                      Originally posted by Sark
                      Not to play devil's advocate, but I saw the change shot in Konami's Run & Gun arcade game, before there were in NBA Live.

                      Onto the real matter of the post. I was really disappointed in ESPN 2k4 last year, but I really liked Live 2004 after totally hating 2003. I agree with some points where it may look nice, but the comp isn't really running any play sets. It felt canned (and it was.)

                      I'm just waiting for both so I can enjoy a great game of video hoops.
                      Change shot in mid air was in NBA Inside ZONE, if you really want to take it back.
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                      • RoyalBoyle78
                        Aka."Footballforever"
                        • May 2003
                        • 23918

                        #101
                        Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                        Originally posted by Sark
                        Not to play devil's advocate, but I saw the change shot in Konami's Run & Gun arcade game, before there were in NBA Live.

                        Onto the real matter of the post. I was really disappointed in ESPN 2k4 last year, but I really liked Live 2004 after totally hating 2003. I agree with some points where it may look nice, but the comp isn't really running any play sets. It felt canned (and it was.)

                        I'm just waiting for both so I can enjoy a great game of video hoops.
                        Change shot in mid air was in NBA Inside ZONE, if you really want to take it back.
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                        • rawdog805
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 2788

                          #102
                          Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                          Originally posted by FootballForever
                          First and formost ESPN 2k4 did suck last year, it was not unplayable like you say, I did own LIVE 04 and thougt it was better. First of all half of you EA fans just think your games are always the best anyway, your wrong on that one. It's not all about graphics either, but I sure as hell want my game to look pretty good and not have all the players look skinny in my game, Bottom line is ESPN is a lot more realistic then any of EA games IMO. Take it for what is or take it nowhere I could careless I just don't think LIVE did really anything to improve it game this year

                          haha are you serious... You still would rather have your game look better than it plays huh... hahha... I would rather have a 2D game that plays excellent basketball, than a beautiful looking ESPN 2k4, because 2k4 did not play like a real sim game of basketball and thats period...

                          And as I have said before I hope that ESPN is a great game this year so that we will have two good games to play this year.. But after last years ESPN 2k4 I can't be as optimistic as some of you...

                          I am a big fan of EA's smooth, fluid, and realistic gameplay... ESPN 2k4 put a very sour taste in my mouth..
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                          • rawdog805
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 2788

                            #103
                            Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                            Originally posted by FootballForever
                            First and formost ESPN 2k4 did suck last year, it was not unplayable like you say, I did own LIVE 04 and thougt it was better. First of all half of you EA fans just think your games are always the best anyway, your wrong on that one. It's not all about graphics either, but I sure as hell want my game to look pretty good and not have all the players look skinny in my game, Bottom line is ESPN is a lot more realistic then any of EA games IMO. Take it for what is or take it nowhere I could careless I just don't think LIVE did really anything to improve it game this year

                            haha are you serious... You still would rather have your game look better than it plays huh... hahha... I would rather have a 2D game that plays excellent basketball, than a beautiful looking ESPN 2k4, because 2k4 did not play like a real sim game of basketball and thats period...

                            And as I have said before I hope that ESPN is a great game this year so that we will have two good games to play this year.. But after last years ESPN 2k4 I can't be as optimistic as some of you...

                            I am a big fan of EA's smooth, fluid, and realistic gameplay... ESPN 2k4 put a very sour taste in my mouth..
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                            • Sark
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 144

                              #104
                              Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                              Originally posted by Admiral50


                              You know you're the man for this right???


                              Oh, and I need this game back in my life. I dumped so many quarters into this game it's not funny.
                              Last edited by Sark; 09-20-2004, 01:55 PM.

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                              • Sark
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 144

                                #105
                                Re: 2k LOOKS realistic BUT Live(after live 04) FEELS Realistic.

                                Originally posted by Admiral50


                                You know you're the man for this right???


                                Oh, and I need this game back in my life. I dumped so many quarters into this game it's not funny.

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