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  • ILLSmak
    MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 2397

    #106
    Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

    Originally posted by Jonesy
    Can you please explain the Britney Spears analogy to me. Is nba 2k11 the trampy Britney or the 'virgin' Britney.
    haha...

    I just meant that they are giving the fans what they want without changing the actual product. They are using MJ as they use britney's body...


    -Smak

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #107
      Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

      Originally posted by MomentousCeltic
      I get what you're saying, MJ has nothing to do with how the game will actually play, and that the gameplay and whatever fixes they implement will ultimately determine if this game is the GOAT.

      BUT..for some people it will be the GOAT just because MJ is on the cover. Yes it that serious, for some people. We don't know how long he is going to be working with 2K, we don't know if he'll be in the game for this one year or for the next 10 years, all we know is that he is in the game now.

      For some people, that elevates the game to GOAT status by itself. They don't even need to hear anything else because they're going to buy it regardless, just because of MJ. Being able to play with the Bulls, their rivals, and MJ, with all his moves and whatnot will put this game on another level, for some people.

      I agree with what you're saying though. For most of us, it still comes down to the game itself and if the feature-set, presentation, and gameplay are GOAT worthy.

      Although I am pretty sure most will be satisfied this year.
      Right

      You left out the fact that 2k has a pretty good record (with Mr Wang's help) of releasing a pretty darn good product, so yes the addition of MJ would take that fact alone and say yeah, this one is hard to beat

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      • CS10029
        Th* *p*r*t**n *f Sp*rts
        • Feb 2004
        • 4616

        #108
        Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

        MJ being on the cover is so annoying, all we do now is argue about if it is important or not.

        I still think it isn't to the level headed NBA video gamer. Doesn't change the actual software very much at all.

        I don't care to play with Jordan, he is retired. I can make him as a CAP if I really want to. Use that space to make sure the framerate doesn't hitch when you go past halfcourt.
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        • Earl1963
          MVP
          • Aug 2003
          • 1985

          #109
          Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

          Yeah, I could care less if Michael Jackson is on the cover.
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          • videlsports
            Pro
            • Dec 2008
            • 500

            #110
            Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

            2k Did a great marketing Move by paying Jordan to be on the cover, For me it does little because he used tobeat my hawks, but They will have make sure it's the best basketball to date... If the developer insight is all what they say the game is going to be and they rededicate the servers we could have one of the best B-ball titles to date.. I'm always going to support both companies in someway though EA (Fight Night, MMA) and 2kgames (everything) except Bioshock
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            • King_B_Mack
              All Star
              • Jan 2009
              • 24450

              #111
              Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore



              So since Jordan won't matter and using legends and all that is so confusing to consumers I gotta wonder....why such inclusion of him in Elite? So as mentioned when Moore first opened his mouth to utter this nonsense, sounds to me like sour grapes not getting Jordan on an EA Sports cover.

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              • Shakedowncapo
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 4031

                #112
                Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

                Heh..

                Moore: We don't need Mike!

                Moore: But pre-order the game and get these Jordan XI's for your created player!

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                • youvalss
                  ******
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 16601

                  #113
                  Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

                  Isn't denial the first step on a 12-step program?
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                  • Jonesy
                    All Star
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 5382

                    #114
                    Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

                    Originally posted by Shakedowncapo
                    Heh..

                    Moore: We don't need Mike!

                    Moore: But pre-order the game and get these Jordan XI's for your created player!
                    yeah its a weird decision to base the be a legend mode around Jordan (unloackables, 23 levels etc) when the other team has his likeness on lockdown.

                    Nba elite 11: "Where you can look at MJ's shoes but can't actually play as him"

                    I've already pre-ordered both nba games as i do every year so it has no impact on my buying decision but it does seems strange.

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                    • Muzyk23
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4192

                      #115
                      Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

                      Originally posted by CS10029
                      MJ being on the cover is so annoying, all we do now is argue about if it is important or not.

                      I still think it isn't to the level headed NBA video gamer. Doesn't change the actual software very much at all.

                      I don't care to play with Jordan, he is retired. I can make him as a CAP if I really want to. Use that space to make sure the framerate doesn't hitch when you go past halfcourt.
                      most of the kids and adults who like basketball have always wanted to be like Mike..can't deny it

                      btw, what do you think about 2k basketball?
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                      • mvb34
                        S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 8138

                        #116
                        Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

                        Originally posted by Muzyk23
                        most of the kids and adults who like basketball have always wanted to be like Mike..can't deny it

                        btw, what do you think about 2k basketball?

                        I disagree with the Kids part ... more like they wanna be like Kobe or Lebron..
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                        • KG
                          Welcome Back
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 17583

                          #117
                          Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

                          Originally posted by CS10029
                          MJ being on the cover is so annoying, all we do now is argue about if it is important or not.

                          I still think it isn't to the level headed NBA video gamer. Doesn't change the actual software very much at all.

                          I don't care to play with Jordan, he is retired. I can make him as a CAP if I really want to. Use that space to make sure the framerate doesn't hitch when you go past halfcourt.
                          You can make him but most people who buy 2K aren't gonna make a CAP of MJ. If he's available to play out of the box people will use him.
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                          • da ThRONe
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                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8528

                            #118
                            Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

                            Maybe I'm just different ,but I can care less about who's on a cover or Jordan having his own mode or whatever. I care more about the actual product. It's nice to have options but 2K is getting a little bit stale. While EA seems to be going all out. I wont be surprise if Elite matches or even surpasses NBA 2K this year. I hope so to because if so where in for a great year of basketball games.
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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #119
                              Re: 2K vs Elite talk: "MJ won't matter" - Peter Moore

                              Originally posted by CS10029
                              MJ being on the cover is so annoying, all we do now is argue about if it is important or not.

                              I still think it isn't to the level headed NBA video gamer. Doesn't change the actual software very much at all.

                              I don't care to play with Jordan, he is retired. I can make him as a CAP if I really want to. Use that space to make sure the framerate doesn't hitch when you go past halfcourt.
                              Are you kidding me? I take it you've never played randoms online in a basketball game?

                              You'd think your comment was an oxymoron.
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                              • VDusen04
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                                #120
                                Re: 2K vs Elite talk: &quot;MJ won't matter&quot; - Peter Moore

                                Originally posted by mvb34
                                I disagree with the Kids part ... more like they wanna be like Kobe or Lebron..
                                Through my experience as a coach of kids ranging from 1st grade (summer camps) to middle school and high school I have to say Michael Jordan's name is still super fresh, admired and revered. I was just as surprised to hear kindergarteners mentioning another dated entertainer, Michael Jackson, all the time in conversations in 2008. You'd think these guys would move on from what we were talking about in kindergarten but I guess there's certain people that just carve out a lasting legacy.

                                Throughout this 2K Jordan thing, I've heard a whole lot of hype coming from the teens I coach about the prosect of using MJ. Further, I acknowledge this is all but a small sample, but my two brothers (14 and 12) absolutely cannot wait to bust out with Michael Jordan this year. It's an instant buy for these guys. After finishing out the Challenge, they're throwing him on the Pistons. On top of everything else, my youngest bro is fiending to get Vinnie Johnson out there to kill it off the bench for his Bad Boys.

                                Again, I know my experience with kids is just a small sample size, but I think sometimes we sell the young guys short in assuming all they care about is LeBron James and Kobe Bryant.
                                Last edited by VDusen04; 08-12-2010, 03:00 PM.

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