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  • Redbird
    Go Hogs
    • Oct 2002
    • 838

    #241
    Re: This game owns my soul.

    Yep, I am in my first coach mode legacy. I am deep into it but havn't played in months but I am about to fire it back up. Currently I am at Memphis and have a powerhouse.
    For a great Christian website check out http://www.gbntv.org/

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    • Lisa_Bonami
      Banned
      • Aug 2003
      • 1293

      #242
      Re: This game owns my soul.

      guys, what level are you playing on...I was under the impression that All COnference is the most realistic because BOTH the CPU and Human players are playing with their true attributes and no enhanced modifiers or boosts like the AA and MOP levels...am I wrong on that one?


      Also, why does everyone turn OFF CLUTCH? What's the logic behind it? I always thought it added more realism to the game by introducing a variable into late games in which the veteran cool- under- pressure guys could turn the tide of a close ball game....am I wrong?


      Did you all know you can randomly PLAY ANY game for any team in your dynasty? Thats a cool feature thats missing from NCAA basketball 09

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      • BoDontThinkSo
        Rookie
        • Nov 2008
        • 27

        #243
        Re: This game owns my soul.

        the problem with clutch on is that players perform better than their ratings insist. if a player has a good rating then he will perform well for you in the clutch when you need him. its almost like the player gets an attribute boost for no reason when clutch is on. i hate it.

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        • rspencer86
          MIB Crew
          • Sep 2004
          • 8806

          #244
          Re: This game owns my soul.

          Originally posted by BoDontThinkSo
          the problem with clutch on is that players perform better than their ratings insist. if a player has a good rating then he will perform well for you in the clutch when you need him. its almost like the player gets an attribute boost for no reason when clutch is on. i hate it.
          I agree. The whole idea of "clutch" is just silly IMO. Do you think it's a coincidence that the players that are considered to be the most "clutch" (Michael Jordan, for example) just happen to be some of the best players when the game isn't on the line, either?

          "Clutch" players are just great players, period. Therefore, there's no need for some special attribute to make them unique. The player ratings already do a good job of separating players of different talent levels. In any sports videogame I play, if there's a "clutch" option, I turn it off.
          Ryan Spencer

          University of Missouri '09
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          • R1zzo23
            Cupcake Coach
            • Jul 2005
            • 5694

            #245
            Re: This game owns my soul.

            I'd rather there be a "choke" attribute than a "clutch" attribute so Lebron would play like he does in real life.

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            • rspencer86
              MIB Crew
              • Sep 2004
              • 8806

              #246
              Re: This game owns my soul.

              Originally posted by rhs_rizzo
              I'd rather there be a "choke" attribute than a "clutch" attribute so Lebron would play like he does in real life.


              You guys are too hard on ol' LeBron.
              Ryan Spencer

              University of Missouri '09
              Twitter: @RyanASpencer

              Royals / Chiefs / Kings / Mizzou / Sporting KC


              PSN: MizzouTigerrr
              XBox: MizzouRhino

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              • Lisa_Bonami
                Banned
                • Aug 2003
                • 1293

                #247
                Re: This game owns my soul.

                I dont side for or against, I am just opening up some interesting perspectives on this because I personally don't know how I feel about this yet...so let me throw this out there as food for thought.

                By this toiken, couldn't the same argument then also be made to remove or turn off Home Court Advantage, Consistency rating, Leadership rating, Confidence rating, even momentum and 6th man??? Arent these too also similar examples of intangible modifiers that 'skew' what we perceive as 'authentic' results?

                What about batting averages with runners in scoring position?...clutch hitters in baseball?

                Do we want to argue that they dont exist? David Ortiz, one of the games hottest hitters with men in scoring position.....or better yet, David Wright a lifetime 300 hitter was absolutely dreadful hitting with RISP last year. Is it just a coincidence or is it a result of one of those 'intangible' human elements that add further distiction of a player's skills and abilities.

                I say, the more attributes and modifiers the merrier to add more definition and character to a player as long as they are done with subtle and believable effect!
                Personally, I feel that a CLUTCH rating is as tangible as a MIDDLE, INSIDE and OUTSIDE Shooting rating for a player....you certainly can track a player's stats and performance within an isolated environment and deem it a clutch situation moreso than you can map their LEADERSHIP ability or even their FATIGUE effects....no?

                Wait, did I just choose a side?
                Last edited by Lisa_Bonami; 12-02-2008, 04:16 PM.

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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #248
                  Re: This game owns my soul.

                  In theory that's fine but it isn't implemented like that in 2K8. When clutch is on it's more a team thing, it gets to be two minutes left in the game and the CPU will make every single shot, I've seen the CPU hit seven straight three's with a hand in their face in the three minutes of a game, make several absurd steals while I miss five straight layups and dunks.

                  If it just meant that Rashad Anderson is gonna hit every three-pointer he takes down the stretch of a tight game then fine, but there is no differentiating between players when it comes to this.

                  Originally posted by Lisa_Bonami
                  By this toiken, couldn't the same argument then also be made to remove or turn off Home Court Advantage, Consistency rating, Leadership rating, Confidence rating, even momentum and 6th man??? Arent these too also similar examples of intangible modifiers that 'skew' what we perceive as 'authentic' results?
                  Basically the answer to this is no, not when specifically talking about 2K8.
                  "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                  "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                  • Jukeman
                    Showtime
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10955

                    #249
                    Re: This game owns my soul.

                    clutch on = tecmo bowled...with it off it is way more realistic

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                    • Jason2112
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 302

                      #250
                      Re: This game owns my soul.

                      Originally posted by windseer90
                      Just lost a HEART BREAKER to Florida... good thing these are just quick games lol. Played with some new sliders and shot 41% while Florida shot 39%, but made 10 3's including a dagger at the end. First half was very low scoring, both teams under 33% shooting. But wow, was it fun. I love this game. I love college basketball.
                      Yeah those percentages look more realistic. Anyone perfected the shooting sliders yet? Mine are 45/44/40 for CPU inside/med/3pt and 45/44/43 for Human. Seems close, but I was just wondering what everyone else had on these.

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                      • Redbird
                        Go Hogs
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 838

                        #251
                        Re: This game owns my soul.

                        i got all fired to resume my legacy after a 6 month lay off and I get "disk error"

                        not funny!
                        For a great Christian website check out http://www.gbntv.org/

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                        • ehh
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 28962

                          #252
                          Re: This game owns my soul.

                          Good thing it's only $8 used!
                          "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                          "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                          • Hurricain
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 1034

                            #253
                            Re: This game owns my soul.

                            Started my Legacy up again, this is a great game.
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                            • cubsfan203
                              All Star
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 6689

                              #254
                              Re: This game owns my soul.

                              Originally posted by Redbird
                              i got all fired to resume my legacy after a 6 month lay off and I get "disk error"

                              not funny!
                              I kept getting it as well, so I just burned mine to the hard drive. Problem solved.
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                              • warrenb
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 40

                                #255
                                Re: This game owns my soul.

                                I played the EA game for two weeks.. I am back. 2K needs to stop playing and get back in the game. It is still the best. I am starting a Closed legacy with Mercer.

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