How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

[gin]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

You say can't answer those question but you are Ms Cleo about what Shaq's future. I don't get it...it is your hope or your guess that Shaq's best chance was this year but that is not true they could make moves in free agency and no one knows for sure what deal the Heat and Shaq are making its all rumors.

Just as gin said there are many questions that cant be answered yet about the Lakers so how can you be so sure that the future is soooo much brighter for the Lakers.

That I can agree with. We don't know what the Heat and Lakers future holds.

[dingdingdong]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

How many rings for Shaq at least 1....That being said I have no issue again with the Lakers or Kobe I just find blind hate funny. People are so mad @ Shaq when they should be looking at the front office.

Just as gin said there are many questions that cant be answered yet about the Lakers so how can you be so sure that the future is soooo much brighter for the Lakers.

1 ring. Ok , I respect your opinion. But in reality, Shaq, I think is aging dont you agree? And what happens when you age towards the mid, upper 30's? But put all that aside. Diesel is asking for a 90 mil contract extension I believe. Thats nearly over half or more of the cap size. He's eating up space for potential free agency that could make the team stronger and have another run for the championship. Heat's future?

As for the Lakers, they are no where near title contenders, yet alone playoff contenders as this season proves it. But they have expiring contracts which frees up cap space, possible luring in free agency. With that, the Lakers can hope they draft a potential decent player from the draft since they do have a high pick. Lakers' future?
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That I can agree with. We don't know what the Heat and Lakers future holds.

Edit. But we have an idea of what it may hold.

[Programmed2Kill]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Lakers' future in the long run > Heat's future in the long run

I think we all know why.

Ok lemme let this sink in....


A very selfish ballhoggin' Kobe at 28 years old.....or a 23 year old Dwyane Wade, who makes teammates better and is liked by all?


I'm going with the Heat's future on that one.

[Kashanova]

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i'll take the heats future, kobes contract is just getting bigger and bigger people, when it hits 24 mil we'll see whos gonna be talking bout cap killer. if kobe is a team player he will restructure his contract.

[dingdingdong]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Ok lemme let this sink in....

A very selfish ballhoggin' Kobe at 28 years old.....or a 23 year old Dwyane Wade, who makes teammates better and is liked by all?

I'm going with the Heat's future on that one.

Your entitled to your own opinion and I respect that. But what you just said is completely irrelevant and biased to what we're discussing fact-wise.

i'll take the heats future, kobes contract is just getting bigger and bigger people, when it hits 24 mil we'll see whos gonna be talking bout cap killer. if kobe is a team player he will restructure his contract.

So you rather take a 90 mil contract extension of a man whose aging and only becoming less of a force that he was then taking a 24 mi contract?

Your saying 90 mil > 24 mil?
Wow. Why don't you ask the people around here with some knowledge towards the game of basketball of which one of the contracts is the cap killer.

Here. Go in here and gain some knowledge pimp.
http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...9&page=3&pp=10

[Programmed2Kill]

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Your entitled to your own opinion and I respect that. But what you just said is completely irrelevant and biased to what we're discussing fact-wise.

Irrelevant and biased? I'm just telling the truth.

[utexas]

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90 million is the total amount of a 3 year deal Kobe's deal may pay him 24 mil in the last season I believe. Shaq is asking for an avg salary of 30 mil, Kobe's will esculate up there in the next few seasons. Shaq is still the most dominating force in the league bar none. If he and Wade were healthy, they would be in the finals with less talent than the Pistons, this is taking nothing away from the Pistons because injuries are a part of the game.

[OG_McNabb]

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Step your knowledge game up playa.

What does that prove..........Am I missing something? That little movie didnt prove my statement wrong. Now if he did say "I will bring a Championship to Miami THIS YEAR" then I would do what you suggested but until then..................

[Sarah]

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I have no problem with Shaq not making the finals though. I do beleive that Shaq's presence in MIA makes them an instant title contender which did came true for this season. It took DET 7 games to put down the fire Shaq started in MIA but fueled by Wade.

[dingdingdong]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

^^^

Ok lemme let this sink in....

A very selfish ballhoggin' Kobe at 28 years old.....or a 23 year old Dwyane Wade, who makes teammates better and is liked by all?

I'm going with the Heat's future on that one.

Do you have any proof or evidence to back this up?

You wanna tell me how thats gonna affect the future of both teams salary/cap/management/coaching/organization-wise?
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Year Team Annual Salary Contract Yrs Contract Amt Contract Thru Position
Shaq:2004-05 Heat $ 27,696,430 3 $ 88,500,000 2005-06 C

Kobe:2004-05 Lakers $ 14,175,000 7 $ 136,400,000 2008-09 G

The Lakers will be able to manuever easier than the Heat over the next few years. I mean look at the annual salary for the aging Shaq... Jesus.

[BigTigLSU]

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^^^



Do you have any proof or evidence to back this up?

Kobe basically swapped players w/ Wade a didn't make the playoffs that is a start.

[Programmed2Kill]

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^^^



Do you have any proof or evidence to back this up?

You wanna tell me how thats gonna affect the future of both teams salary/cap/management/coaching/organization-wise?
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Year Team Annual Salary Contract Yrs Contract Amt Contract Thru Position
Shaq:2004-05 Heat $ 27,696,430 3 $ 88,500,000 2005-06 C

Kobe:2004-05 Lakers $ 14,175,000 7 $ 136,400,000 2008-09 G

The Lakers will be able to manuever easier than the Heat over the next few years. I mean look at the annual salary for the aging Shaq... Jesus.

I honestly don't believe Shaq will play all three years. Especially if they win the title next year.

And what really does Miami have to improve on? They have Wade and Shaq. Haslem, E. Jones, D. Jones, Butler, Doleac, Dooling are the role players. That's all they need. And if the high school kid Dorrell Wright comes out next season to contribute, that's even better.


Who are the Lakers going to grab that equals to Shaq? Nobody.


Heat's future > Lakers' future

[dingdingdong]

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Kobe basically swapped players w/ Wade a didn't make the playoffs that is a start.

Lets not forget something buddy.

03-04. Wade & Co. were in the Leastern Conference. I can see why he went far as he did that year and Im pretty sure you can too.

04-05. Bryant & Co. were in the Western Conference playin the likes of the Spurs, Kings, Seattle, PHX, Dallas, the surging Nuggets 4 times a year. Plus with a coach that looks like he has DownSyndrome.

Western Conference
Team W L GB
1. yMinnesota Timberwolves 58 24 -
3. yLos Angeles Lakers .... 56 26 2.0
2. xSan Antonio Spurs ..... 57 25 1.0
4. xSacramento Kings ...... 55 27 3.0
5. xDallas Mavericks ...... 52 30 6.0
6. xMemphis Grizzlies ..... 50 32 8.0
7. xHouston Rockets ....... 45 37 13.0
8. xDenver Nuggets ........ 43 39 15.0
9. Utah Jazz .............. 42 40 16.0
10. Portland Trailblazers .. 41 41 17.0
11. Golden State Warriors .. 37 45 21.0
11. Seattle Sonics ......... 37 45 21.0
13. Phoenix Suns ........... 29 53 29.0
14. Los Angeles Clippers ... 28 54 30.0


Eastern Conference
Team W L GB
1. yIndiana Pacers ........ 61 21 -
3. yNew Jersey Nets ....... 47 35 14.0
2. xDetroit Pistons ....... 54 28 7.0
4. xMiami Heat ............ 42 40 19.0
5. xNew Orleans Hornets ... 41 41 20.0
5. xMilwaukee Bucks ....... 41 41 20.0
7. xNew York Knicks ....... 39 43 22.0
8. xBoston Celtics ........ 36 46 25.0
9. Cleveland Cavaliers .... 35 47 26.0
10. Philadelphia 76ers ..... 33 49 28.0
10. Toronto Raptors ........ 33 49 28.0
12. Atlanta Hawks .......... 28 54 33.0
13. Washington Wizards ..... 25 57 36.0
14. Chicago Bulls .......... 23 59 38.0
15. Orlando Magic .......... 21 61 40.0

^^Leastern Conference. Compare for yourself.

[Kashanova]

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Lets not forget something buddy.

03-04. Wade & Co. were in the Leastern Conference. I can see why he went far as he did that year and Im pretty sure you can too.

04-05. Bryant & Co. were in the Western Conference playin the likes of the Spurs, Kings, Seattle, PHX, Dallas, the surging Nuggets 4 times a year. Plus with a coach that looks like he has DownSyndrome.

Western Conference
Team W L GB
1. yMinnesota Timberwolves 58 24 -
3. yLos Angeles Lakers .... 56 26 2.0
2. xSan Antonio Spurs ..... 57 25 1.0
4. xSacramento Kings ...... 55 27 3.0
5. xDallas Mavericks ...... 52 30 6.0
6. xMemphis Grizzlies ..... 50 32 8.0
7. xHouston Rockets ....... 45 37 13.0
8. xDenver Nuggets ........ 43 39 15.0
9. Utah Jazz .............. 42 40 16.0
10. Portland Trailblazers .. 41 41 17.0
11. Golden State Warriors .. 37 45 21.0
11. Seattle Sonics ......... 37 45 21.0
13. Phoenix Suns ........... 29 53 29.0
14. Los Angeles Clippers ... 28 54 30.0


Eastern Conference
Team W L GB
1. yIndiana Pacers ........ 61 21 -
3. yNew Jersey Nets ....... 47 35 14.0
2. xDetroit Pistons ....... 54 28 7.0
4. xMiami Heat ............ 42 40 19.0
5. xNew Orleans Hornets ... 41 41 20.0
5. xMilwaukee Bucks ....... 41 41 20.0
7. xNew York Knicks ....... 39 43 22.0
8. xBoston Celtics ........ 36 46 25.0
9. Cleveland Cavaliers .... 35 47 26.0
10. Philadelphia 76ers ..... 33 49 28.0
10. Toronto Raptors ........ 33 49 28.0
12. Atlanta Hawks .......... 28 54 33.0
13. Washington Wizards ..... 25 57 36.0
14. Chicago Bulls .......... 23 59 38.0
15. Orlando Magic .......... 21 61 40.0

^^Leastern Conference. Compare for yourself.

the only thing i see is the lakers went from a 56 win team to a lottery team i wonder why

[Programmed2Kill]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

the only thing i see is the lakers went from a 56 win team to a lottery team i wonder why

The Big Guy wasn't there.

Being in the Western Conference means nothing.