Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
Collapse
Recommended Videos
Collapse
X
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
alright i swear this is the last thing about the lakers in a non lakers thread, but.. the lakers were still the biggest story last season in the nba. and look at what kind of personel they had. the playoffs didnt feel the same and the ratings proved it. especially in the finals when pj eclipsed the actual game. the most attention, positive or negative, will always be given to the lakers.Originally posted by HardwoodHeisman1 -
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
Only because Kobe is there. Before Shaq and Kobe got to the Lakers, nobody talked about them and it was all about the Bulls. After Jordan and Co. were gone, nobody cared about the Bulls. When Bird left the Celtics, nobody talked about the Celtics. When Barkley left the Sixers, nobody talked about the Sixers.
It's really about the star being there.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
And this means the NBA revolves around the Lakers? PuhhhleaseOriginally posted by mrs. carrabaalright i swear this is the last thing about the lakers in a non lakers thread, but.. the lakers were still the biggest story last season in the nba. and look at what kind of personel they had. the playoffs didnt feel the same and the ratings proved it. especially in the finals when pj eclipsed the actual game. the most attention, positive or negative, will always be given to the lakers.
BTW I disagree with the Lakers being the biggest story last season. LeBron's Year, D-Wade and Shaq, The Spurs, Pistons, & Pacers Brawl, The Season of the Suns with Nash and Stat. Sorry can't do it. Sure LA's season was a big part of the NBA year but to say it was the biggest story is false. And to say the NBA revolves around the Lakers is false as well. If Kobe was traded for two pretty good players but not Superstars the Lakers would not be talked about as much. Please believe that........Last edited by HardwoodHeisman; 07-20-2005, 04:36 PM.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
Originally posted by mrs. carrabaalright i swear this is the last thing about the lakers in a non lakers thread, but.. the lakers were still the biggest story last season in the nba. and look at what kind of personel they had. the playoffs didnt feel the same and the ratings proved it. especially in the finals when pj eclipsed the actual game. the most attention, positive or negative, will always be given to the lakers.
Will you please stop making stuff up. The radio ratings went through the ground. Noone even in LA was listening to the Lakers broadcast.
The tv ratings went down. It was so bad they fired one of the broadcasters.
The ticket sales were low. They had about 3 entire sellouts during the season.
Dont tell me that's popular. I'd say Miami, and Phoenix, Ron Artest, Dwyane Wade, heck even Manu Ginobilli was talked about more than that awful team.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
What P2K said is right. It's not the name on the front that the media is focusing on, it's the name on the back. It just so happens that the Lakers are always in the spotlight because of the stars on the team (Mikan, West, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, etc.)Originally posted by Programmed2KillOnly because Kobe is there. Before Shaq and Kobe got to the Lakers, nobody talked about them and it was all about the Bulls. After Jordan and Co. were gone, nobody cared about the Bulls. When Bird left the Celtics, nobody talked about the Celtics. When Barkley left the Sixers, nobody talked about the Sixers.
It's really about the star being there.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
alright.. i guess i have to say one more thing. no the nba hasn't "revolved" around the lakeshow since the beginning of the league. since 2000, the nbas team has been the lakers. and yes their title may be about to passed on, but for now the lakers are it.
and as far as kdre.. i dont know what you were trying to say there. i agree with what you said about the ratings for the lakers and fan support etc. ratings for when lakers in finals> ratings when lakers not in finals.
yes america is captivated by stars.. yes manu, nash, duncan even, are superstars. true nba fans know this. but your avg nba fan wouldve rather have seen kobe and the lakeshow because kobe is something above a "star". in my opinion, america hasnt fully embraced the suns, spurs, pistons, as the "it" teams. like i said before, give it time and one of those teams could hold that title in the near future.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
Originally posted by mrs. carrabaalright.. i guess i have to say one more thing. no the nba hasn't "revolved" around the lakeshow since the beginning of the league. since 2000, the nbas team has been the lakers. and yes their title may be about to passed on, but for now the lakers are it.
and as far as kdre.. i dont know what you were trying to say there. i agree with what you said about the ratings for the lakers and fan support etc. ratings for when lakers in finals> ratings when lakers not in finals.
yes america is captivated by stars.. yes manu, nash, duncan even, are superstars. true nba fans know this. but your avg nba fan wouldve rather have seen kobe and the lakeshow because kobe is something above a "star". in my opinion, america hasnt fully embraced the suns, spurs, pistons, as the "it" teams. like i said before, give it time and one of those teams could hold that title in the near future.
Just put the smokes down, and come out of the little box you live in.
Even from a popularity standpoint, kobe wasnt even a top vote getter in the All Star Game.
Please just stop it. You're creating a scenario in your mind that isnt really there.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
ok scenerio deleted from my wacked out mind. ill just let america speak for itself. bottom line is that the lakers (from 2000 to present) garner the most attention, positve or negative. if the lakers continue to decline they wont get any attention and will be forgotten, like in the years after magic and before kobe/shaq.Originally posted by KDREJust put the smokes down, and come out of the little box you live in.
Even from a popularity standpoint, kobe wasnt even a top vote getter in the All Star Game.
Please just stop it. You're creating a scenario in your mind that isnt really there.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
Originally posted by mrs. carrabaalright.. i guess i have to say one more thing. no the nba hasn't "revolved" around the lakeshow since the beginning of the league. since 2000, the nbas team has been the lakers. and yes their title may be about to passed on, but for now the lakers are it.
and as far as kdre.. i dont know what you were trying to say there. i agree with what you said about the ratings for the lakers and fan support etc. ratings for when lakers in finals> ratings when lakers not in finals.
yes america is captivated by stars.. yes manu, nash, duncan even, are superstars. true nba fans know this. but your avg nba fan wouldve rather have seen kobe and the lakeshow because kobe is something above a "star". in my opinion, america hasnt fully embraced the suns, spurs, pistons, as the "it" teams. like i said before, give it time and one of those teams could hold that title in the near future.
And America will never embrace the Suns and Spurs as "it" teams because of location and team tradition. Pistons were an "it" team during the Bad Boys era.
Give the Boston Celtics, the most storied team in the NBA, a star like Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, McGrady and so on...and add them being contenders and winning titles...Boston would be America's darlings.
Give the Sixers another like Doc or Wilt...and winning titles...they would be the focus of all the media.
Bring LeBron to Madison Square Garden...do I even need to go on?
Big Market city, mixed with a team with a tradition = Glitz and Glitter of the media.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
Originally posted by Programmed2KillYou're asking entirely too much of the guy. LOL I mean seriously...
If he couldn't handle f'n Washington, DC....how the hell is he going to handle L.A., their fans and most importantly, being a Laker with Kobe and Phil on your butt?
If you look at his career stats, 15/11 is only a couple buckets and a couple boards more per contest. I think that on the strength of the additional minutes alone those numbers are do-able. He's already showed a few defensive flashes...so establishing himself on that end should be within his reach.
I think you're wrong, PK...Brown can be a solid player. I guess we'll see in 6 mos.
Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaireComment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
I agree.Originally posted by HMcCoyIf you look at his career stats, 15/11 is only a couple buckets and a couple boards more per contest. I think that on the strength of the additional minutes alone those numbers are do-able. He's already showed a few defensive flashes...so establishing himself on that end should be within his reach.
I think you're wrong, PK...Brown can be a solid player. I guess we'll see in 6 mos.
But, I have no idea how he's actually going to play.
He HAS to get a better work ethic, I remember he had a stretch of like a week where he looked like an All-NBA type of player....but you have to remember a season is 82 games long.
He needs to mature and start working hard...it's all up to Kwame. He needs to be consistent.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
Originally posted by HMcCoyIf you look at his career stats, 15/11 is only a couple buckets and a couple boards more per contest. I think that on the strength of the additional minutes alone those numbers are do-able. He's already showed a few defensive flashes...so establishing himself on that end should be within his reach.
I think you're wrong, PK...Brown can be a solid player. I guess we'll see in 6 mos.
Where did I say he couldn't be a solid player?Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
Originally posted by keRplunKI agree.
But, I have no idea how he's actually going to play.
He HAS to get a better work ethic, I remember he had a stretch of like a week where he looked like an All-NBA type of player....but you have to remember a season is 82 games long.
He needs to mature and start working hard...it's all up to Kwame. He needs to be consistent.
Yep.
How do you think Stro will do?Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaireComment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
At least with Swift you got the best current dunker in the league, and oscassoial rebound, but with Brown he's so INCONSINENT, you don't know what he'll give you night end and out.Comment
-
Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??
After a lethal dose of D. Miles here in Cleveland, I would want NO parts of a "dunk-only" skill set. I like Stro's attitude and demeanor, but I've only seen him play 4-5 times over the last couple season, and he's never made an impact in any of the games I've seen, so I can't really say what he brings to the table besides athleticism. How's his decision-making? How's his range developing? How well does he play in crunchtime? How's his health been? Does he play through injuries?Originally posted by Lebron 4 MVPAt least with Swift you got the best current dunker in the league, and oscassoial rebound, but with Brown he's so INCONSINENT, you don't know what he'll give you night end and out.
Little help from any Grizz fans?Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaireComment

Comment