Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

[gin]

I'm a little confused here.

Help me out.

The Rockets picked up Stromile Swift and everybody thinks it's a good signing.

The Lakers picked up Kwame Brown and they get ripped for it.

Stromile Swift #2 overall pick in 2000
00-01 4.9 PPG 3.6 RPG 16.4 MPG
01-02 11.8 PPG 6.3 RPG 26.5 MPG
02-03 9.7 PPG 5.7 RPG 22.1 MPG
03-04 9.4 PPG 4.9 RPG 19.8 MPG
04-05 10.1 PPG 4.6 RPG 21.3 MPG
Career 9.0 PPG 5.0 RPG 21 MPG

Kwame Brown #1 overall pick in 2001
01-02 4.5 PPG 3.5 RPG 14.3 MPG
02-03 7.4 PPG 5.3 RPG 22.2 MPG
03-04 10.9 PPG 7.4 RPG 30.3 MPG
04-05 7.0 PPG 4.9 RPG 21.6 MPG
Career 7.7 PPG 5.50 RPG 20 MPG

They are basically the same player. Swift averages a little more points, but Kwame averages a little more rebounds in roughly the same amount of minutes. Only difference is Swift played a year of college and came into the NBA a year earlier. Kwame came into the NBA straight out of HS.

Kwame was #1 overall and he's considered a bust and won't do anything with LA, Swift was #2 overall (a year earlier) and his NBA performance is equal to that of Kwame's but he's gonna help the Rockets??

I even saw in the Kwame Brown/Wilbon thread, someone said that the Lakers should have went after Swift. Why? How is he better than Kwame??


Explain this to me?

[mvb34]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

I'm a little confused here.

Help me out.

The Rockets picked up Stromile Swift and everybody thinks it's a good signing.

The Lakers picked up Kwame Brown and they get ripped for it.

Stromile Swift #2 overall pick in 2000
00-01 4.9 PPG 3.6 RPG 16.4 MPG
01-02 11.8 PPG 6.3 RPG 26.5 MPG
02-03 9.7 PPG 5.7 RPG 22.1 MPG
03-04 9.4 PPG 4.9 RPG 19.8 MPG
04-05 10.1 PPG 4.6 RPG 21.3 MPG
Career 9.0 PPG 5.0 RPG 21 MPG

Kwame Brown #1 overall pick in 2001
01-02 4.5 PPG 3.5 RPG 14.3 MPG
02-03 7.4 PPG 5.3 RPG 22.2 MPG
03-04 10.9 PPG 7.4 RPG 30.3 MPG
04-05 7.0 PPG 4.9 RPG 21.6 MPG
Career 7.7 PPG 5.50 RPG 20 MPG

They are basically the same player. Swift averages a little more points, but Kwame averages a little more rebounds in roughly the same amount of minutes. Only difference is Swift played a year of college and came into the NBA a year earlier. Kwame came into the NBA straight out of HS.

Kwame was #1 overall and he's considered a bust and won't do anything with LA, Swift was #2 overall (a year earlier) and his NBA performance is equal to that of Kwame's but he's gonna help the Rockets??

I even saw in the Kwame Brown/Wilbon thread, someone said that the Lakers should have went after Swift. Why? How is he better than Kwame??





Explain this to me?

Did Swift quit on Memphis? Does Swift show that don't want to work on his game?

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

Did Swift quit on Memphis? Does Swift show that don't want to work on his game?

"quit".. i dont believe you used the right wording. he got into it with the coach(es).. which resulted in a suspension.

i kinda agree win you gin.. although stro does have exceptional athleticism and will "fit in" so well with the rockets. thats why everybodys excited.. on paper that they will have a lengthy frontline.

[gin]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

Did Swift quit on Memphis? Does Swift show that don't want to work on his game?

Darrell Armstrong is one of the hardest working players in the NBA, but does that make him better than TMac, who quit on his team in 03-04??

No, it doesn't. TMac needed a change of scenary, maybe that's all Brown needs as well.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

Darrell Armstrong is one of the hardest working players in the NBA, but does that make him better than TMac, who quit on his team in 03-04??

No, it doesn't. TMac needed a change of scenary, maybe that's all Brown needs as well.

now this i one hundred percent agree with.

[Kashanova]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

I'm a little confused here.

Help me out.

The Rockets picked up Stromile Swift and everybody thinks it's a good signing.

The Lakers picked up Kwame Brown and they get ripped for it.

Stromile Swift #2 overall pick in 2000
00-01 4.9 PPG 3.6 RPG 16.4 MPG
01-02 11.8 PPG 6.3 RPG 26.5 MPG
02-03 9.7 PPG 5.7 RPG 22.1 MPG
03-04 9.4 PPG 4.9 RPG 19.8 MPG
04-05 10.1 PPG 4.6 RPG 21.3 MPG
Career 9.0 PPG 5.0 RPG 21 MPG

Kwame Brown #1 overall pick in 2001
01-02 4.5 PPG 3.5 RPG 14.3 MPG
02-03 7.4 PPG 5.3 RPG 22.2 MPG
03-04 10.9 PPG 7.4 RPG 30.3 MPG
04-05 7.0 PPG 4.9 RPG 21.6 MPG
Career 7.7 PPG 5.50 RPG 20 MPG

They are basically the same player. Swift averages a little more points, but Kwame averages a little more rebounds in roughly the same amount of minutes. Only difference is Swift played a year of college and came into the NBA a year earlier. Kwame came into the NBA straight out of HS.

Kwame was #1 overall and he's considered a bust and won't do anything with LA, Swift was #2 overall (a year earlier) and his NBA performance is equal to that of Kwame's but he's gonna help the Rockets??

I even saw in the Kwame Brown/Wilbon thread, someone said that the Lakers should have went after Swift. Why? How is he better than Kwame??


Explain this to me?

like i said in the other thread

It's quite simple look at the 2000 draft. and look at the 2001 draft the 2000 draft was weaker then the 2001 draft. i guarantee if it would had been swift in the 2003 draft he doesn't go number 2. Kwame's draft had alot of talent so thats why i think people would consider him a bust considering all the talent in that draft

[mvb34]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

Darrell Armstrong is one of the hardest working players in the NBA, but does that make him better than TMac, who quit on his team in 03-04??

No, it doesn't. TMac needed a change of scenary, maybe that's all Brown needs as well.

Okay what about put in the work in working on his game? If could learn or work hard to learn Eddie Jordan what is he going do in the Triangle?

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

Okay what about put in the work in working on his game? If could learn or work hard to learn Eddie Jordan what is he going do in the Triangle?

where is there evidence he didnt "learn" jordans offense? seemed to me he couldnt pry the ball away from the black holes in the backcourt of arenes and hughes.

[gin]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

Okay what about put in the work in working on his game? If could learn or work hard to learn Eddie Jordan what is he going do in the Triangle?

Who knows what happened there. I sure don't. TMac was frustrated with losing in Orlando, he quit working as hard. Maybe Kwame was frustrated with losing and not playing, he quit working as hard.

My whole point is, the Swift signing for Houston is made out to be something that makes them an elite team, while the Brown to LA move is a horrible move. With the exception of Swift being a better shot blocker, they are very identical.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

"It's quite simple look at the 2000 draft. and look at the 2001 draft the 2000 draft was weaker then the 2001 draft. i guarantee if it would had been swift in the 2003 draft he doesn't go number 2. Kwame's draft had alot of talent so thats why i think people would consider him a bust considering all the talent in that draft"

ok but what about the career numbers. both were in control of that. the numbers are similar. to me kwames situation was more difficult in DC between dealing with MJ/Collins and arenes/hughes.

[Kashanova]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

Who knows what happened there. I sure don't. TMac was frustrated with losing in Orlando, he quit working as hard. Maybe Kwame was frustrated with losing and not playing, he quit working as hard.

My whole point is, the Swift signing for Houston is made out to be something that makes them an elite team, while the Brown to LA move is a horrible move. With the exception of Swift being a better shot blocker, they are very identical.

Losing?!??! they made the playoffs he had no excuse this year if thats the case

reason is a horrible move is look at what houston is giving for swift, and what the lakers are its a big difference, just in case let me sort it out for u

Atkins and Butler combined for 29.1 points 8.2 rebounds and 6.3 assists
kwame brown last year in a winning season avg 7 points 4.9 rebs and .9 assits

so the lakers lose 22 points, 3.3 rebs and 5 assits

Now the rockets sign swift via free angecy so they gain

[mvb34]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

where is there evidence he didnt "learn" jordans offense? seemed to me he couldnt pry the ball away from the black holes in the backcourt of arenes and hughes.

David Aldrige (sp) Said so on local sports talk show..

[Kashanova]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

"It's quite simple look at the 2000 draft. and look at the 2001 draft the 2000 draft was weaker then the 2001 draft. i guarantee if it would had been swift in the 2003 draft he doesn't go number 2. Kwame's draft had alot of talent so thats why i think people would consider him a bust considering all the talent in that draft"

ok but what about the career numbers. both were in control of that. the numbers are similar. to me kwames situation was more difficult in DC between dealing with MJ/Collins and arenes/hughes.

Wats so difficult? arenas and huges aren't forwards. if you wanna use that i can say well swift early years playing wit SAR and Bibby stoped his development, then playing wit gasol, williams, messed him up then the addition of wells did it even worst so if your gonna use arenas and hughes as excuses you can do the same for swift

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

Losing?!??! they made the playoffs he had no excuse this year if thats the case

reason is a horrible move is look at what houston is giving for swift, and what the lakers are its a big difference, just in case let me sort it out for u

Atkins and Butler combined for 29.1 points 8.2 rebounds and 6.3 assists
kwame brown last year in a winning season avg 7 points 4.9 rebs and .9 assits

so the lakers lose 22 points, 3.3 rebs and 5 assits

Now the rockets sign swift via free angecy so they gain

another person in another thread did the "combine numbers of two players compared to one". in that case i guess the shaq trade wasnt too good for the miami heat.

caron butler just got caught up in an unfortunate situation. too many similar players on one team.

[Kashanova]

Re: Difference between Kwame Brown and Stromile Swift??

another person in another thread did the "combine numbers of two players compared to one". in that case i guess the shaq trade wasnt too good for the miami heat.

caron butler just got caught up in an unfortunate situation. too many similar players on one team.

Yea but come on it's common sense kwame brown isn't shaq