Jalen to Knicks

[goh]

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Bosh isn't going anywhere. Not anymore at least. Babcock came out and said resigning him wasn't a priority. Embry is only the temporary GM.

[Vince]

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They don't have the typical free agent mindset....

First and foremost, secure Bosh. All star for years to come and getting better every game.

Bring back Mike James if realistic..a hard nosed player who can shoot the lights out and play some pretty good d.

Go after free agents like Nene and Peja. Nene has a former connection with Toronto (translator I think), while Peja would feel welcomed by the huge Serbian community here. Foreign players like these are far more likely to enjoy Toronto than most American born players...

Great deal for the Raps....and as for the Knicks, it gives hope to all armchair GM's who say "I could do a better job than him!"...When it comes to Isiah, it's most likely true.

JYD, you a realgm'er?

[Sarah]

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I think I understand why Thomas make this move. If he kept Davis, nothing will change at the end of the season, NY (I think) will still be over the cap. If he trade for Rose, he will get a 1st round with it (maybe get a diamond in the rough like Ginobli) and Rose can kiss his tail after next season ends. Big Ben is (I heard) the only star avaialble in the FA market and most likely DET will kept him.

What was horrible was when NY throw in a first rounder on the Eddy Curry trade. It was horrible, Curry is not the answer NY is looking for. But whoever they will pick with that 1st round next year might just be a big help. They will probably be in the top 10 in the draft. I don't know though if the first round NY throw in CHI is a protected one. Hopefully it is. If it isn't, Thomas should be whack big time for it. If anything, I would trade Crawford for cap space and throw in a 2nd rounder if I must. Trade Marbury (together with a 2nd rounder) for a 1st rounder and cap space also. Ooppss, I think I got carried away. Too much NBA 2K6.

[3rdAnswer]

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I dont understand this trade. Why would the Knicks let go of Antonio Davis, a big, something that is of much more value in the Eastern Conference? Why trade for Jalen Rose, somehow who has already reached their pick, not to mention the Knicks have plenyt of guards?

[nyyanksfan20]

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As a Knicks fan I like this trade. Jalen may or more likely not help this team reverse its luck this season or even next season, but with the Knicks current cap situation an expiring contract will do nothing. This way the Knicks get another 1st round pick after gettting 3 last year the Knicks have 2 this year, not great ones but 2 none the less.

Then next year when Jalen's deal is expiring Isiah will probably do the same thing again to get another draft pick or a better player that doesn't fit in a team and makes alot of money ala how he got Marbury.

I realize people want the Knicks to get under the cap and start over, realistically that won't happen, so the next best way to build is thru the draft.

The one thing I wonder is what is going to happen with Penny's expiring contract. I get the feeling Isiah won't just let it expire and i'm sure he will try to dump Q-Rich or even more so Jerome James contracts. I could see Q going, but who in their right mind would take Jerome James' contract.

[keRplunK]

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I could see Q going, but who in their right mind would take Jerome James' contract.

Jerome James. Perfect example of why a GM should actually WATCH more than 5 playoff games before giving someone a long term deal. I know that's a crazy idea. There was almost a zero percent chance that he was going to live up to the contract.

[Kashanova]

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don't know if it was mentioned, but the knicks get the nuggets pick from this yr so they have to first round picks

[yucatan]

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[As for Toronto, the new GM is not afraid of pulling off trades. He wants to free as much cap room as possible, so expect MoPete to be out and even Bosh (which would make no sense...but seeing it as they really want Stojakovich to draw in the large Serbian-Canadian population, perhaps ...)]

Umm...no. The whole point of getting a Stojakovic is to pair him with a big like Bosh. Bosh is not going anywhere. Barring career-ending injury, Bosh will be a Raptor for the forseeable future. MoPete is exactly the type of veteran that the Raptors want to surround Bosh with, he's going nowhere. The two players that Embry traded this week had been rumored to be traded for months now, but Babcock was too scared to pull the trigger. He's just accelerating the inevitable.

[GSW]

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As a Knicks fan I like this trade. Jalen may or more likely not help this team reverse its luck this season or even next season, but with the Knicks current cap situation an expiring contract will do nothing. This way the Knicks get another 1st round pick after gettting 3 last year the Knicks have 2 this year, not great ones but 2 none the less.

Then next year when Jalen's deal is expiring Isiah will probably do the same thing again to get another draft pick or a better player that doesn't fit in a team and makes alot of money ala how he got Marbury.

I realize people want the Knicks to get under the cap and start over, realistically that won't happen, so the next best way to build is thru the draft.

The one thing I wonder is what is going to happen with Penny's expiring contract. I get the feeling Isiah won't just let it expire and i'm sure he will try to dump Q-Rich or even more so Jerome James contracts. I could see Q going, but who in their right mind would take Jerome James' contract.

Why jerome james even got that contract is beyond my rational lines of thinking...

[SonicMage]

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Why jerome james even got that contract is beyond my rational lines of thinking...

Big games in the playoffs and look what has happened to the Sonics since him and Antonio Daniels and Nate McMillan left.

Little did the Knicks know about James what his old teammate Ray Allen has described him as being lazy, inconsistent, and not very self-motivated.

[tenth]

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don't know if it was mentioned, but the knicks get the nuggets pick from this yr so they have to first round picks

This will be their only 1st rounder this year. The Knicks actual pick is going to Chicago from the Curry deal.

[Kashanova]

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This will be their only 1st rounder this year. The Knicks actual pick is going to Chicago from the Curry deal.

we got one from the spurs 2, so thats 2 first rounders

[Pointguard]

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we got one from the spurs 2, so thats 2 first rounders

Which both are projected to be in the 20's if the season ended today.

Thats the only problem I have with the trade. I dont see what the Denver pick brings in NY unless Denver just falls apart down the strech and thus gives NY a top 10 pick. They already have Frye, Lee, Robinson and Ariza are young guys who need PT to get better and then guys liek Eddy Curry and Jamaal Crawford who seem to be in NYs future and are relatively young while being locked up for the next 5 years.

With all that (plus Marbury), how is the Denver's 1st gonna bring much to this team when you already have a late 1st rounder with the SA pick. The more the better I guess but I think this could be a really pointless trade for NY if Denver makes the playoffs.

[tenth]

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we got one from the spurs 2, so thats 2 first rounders

ah, right, forgot about that.

[keRplunK]

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Big games in the playoffs and look what has happened to the Sonics since him and Antonio Daniels and Nate McMillan left.

Little did the Knicks know about James what his old teammate Ray Allen has described him as being lazy, inconsistent, and not very self-motivated.

Everyone who knew ANYTHING about James, knew he was lazy, inconsistent, and not motivated.

This is where that thing called, research would've helped.