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  • luv_mist
    Older
    • May 2004
    • 9596

    #76
    Re: Best Point Guard in the League

    Originally posted by nkhera1
    How so? Why do people have this huge misconception that Nash is not talented. For futher reference you should read the SI article about him. Sure Nash isn't good defensively, but he is probably a better shooter, passer, and ball handler.
    Isn't the game a setup of offense....and defense?? Just asking. Being a better ball handler is a matter of opinion. Personally, I can see people slowing Nash down before they slow down Baron. Baron is clearly sick with the lateral on the real. He can dance like I've only dreamed of dudes dancing on the court. Boy got taps.

    Um, thank you GSW!!

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    • HungryBologna
      MVP
      • Nov 2003
      • 3156

      #77
      Re: Best Point Guard in the League

      Originally posted by luv_mist
      Baron is clearly sick with the lateral on the real. He can dance like I've only dreamed of dudes dancing on the court. Boy got taps.
      What'd you say?

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      • nkhera1
        All Star
        • Oct 2003
        • 5913

        #78
        Re: Best Point Guard in the League

        Originally posted by luv_mist
        Isn't the game a setup of offense....and defense?? Just asking. Being a better ball handler is a matter of opinion. Personally, I can see people slowing Nash down before they slow down Baron. Baron is clearly sick with the lateral on the real. He can dance like I've only dreamed of dudes dancing on the court. Boy got taps.

        Um, thank you GSW!!
        So how does that make Nash "not even close" to Davis. Defense is one part, but offensively Nash has the edge. Also doesn't that statement mean Davis is so far ahead of Nash? Just asking.
        Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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        • Leahmic223
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 2148

          #79
          Re: Best Point Guard in the League

          Originally posted by nkhera1
          How so? Why do people have this huge misconception that Nash is not talented. For futher reference you should read the SI article about him. Sure Nash isn't good defensively, but he is probably a better shooter, passer, and ball handler.
          Yeah but Baron does all that, but can get rebounds, play on ball defense (not better than Kidd but he plays it very well) that is why.

          And it is debatable about Nash being a better shooter and ball handler. Baron when healthy breaks ankles normally.

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          • Leahmic223
            MVP
            • Jul 2004
            • 2148

            #80
            Re: Best Point Guard in the League

            Originally posted by nkhera1
            So how does that make Nash "not even close" to Davis. Defense is one part, but offensively Nash has the edge. Also doesn't that statement mean Davis is so far ahead of Nash? Just asking.
            I don't see where Nash is so much better on offense.

            Baron drives the lane WAY better than Nash and has probably as good of a jumper as him.

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            • nkhera1
              All Star
              • Oct 2003
              • 5913

              #81
              Re: Best Point Guard in the League

              Originally posted by Leahmic223
              I don't see where Nash is so much better on offense.

              Baron drives the lane WAY better than Nash and has probably as good of a jumper as him.
              Thats because it doesn't say Nash is so much better.
              Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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              • Leahmic223
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 2148

                #82
                Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                Originally posted by nkhera1
                Thats because it doesn't say Nash is so much better.
                Alright Nash has the edge on Offense.

                But if Baron can do all the things Nash can do and play defense, then why not agree that he is much more talented than Nash.

                Never said Nash was not talented, I just that Baron is much more talented.
                Last edited by Leahmic223; 04-23-2007, 01:05 AM.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #83
                  Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                  B Davis and Nash is a toss up. They are both great, you put B. Davis on that team and he would do just as good as Nash! I like Nash he is a gamer, but B. Davis a very very good too!

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                  • Brandon13
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8915

                    #84
                    Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                    Originally posted by Scottd
                    B Davis and Nash is a toss up. They are both great, you put B. Davis on that team and he would do just as good as Nash!
                    I doubt that but I guess it's possible.

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                    • Scottdau
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #85
                      Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                      Originally posted by Brandon13
                      I doubt that but I guess it's possible.
                      I think he would, but any ways watch out for Monte E. He is going to be a star in this league.

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                      • nkhera1
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 5913

                        #86
                        Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                        Originally posted by Leahmic223
                        Alright Nash has the edge on Offense.

                        But if Baron can do all the things Nash can do and play defense, then why not agree that he is much more talented than Nash.

                        Never said Nash was not talented, I just that Baron is much more talented.
                        Davis may possibly be more talented, but i think you said somewhere in your post that it isn't even close. Now maybe you didn't mean, but it bugs me that many people think Nash isn't very talented. Often times that is one of the main excuses against him winning another MVP. I agree that Davis could very well be a little more talented, but I need to see it on a consistent basis before I annoint him best pg in the league.
                        Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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                        • Leahmic223
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 2148

                          #87
                          Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                          Originally posted by nkhera1
                          Davis may possibly be more talented, but i think you said somewhere in your post that it isn't even close. Now maybe you didn't mean, but it bugs me that many people think Nash isn't very talented. Often times that is one of the main excuses against him winning another MVP. I agree that Davis could very well be a little more talented, but I need to see it on a consistent basis before I annoint him best pg in the league.
                          Maybe I exaggerrated a bit on the "Not even close" I just get a little testy when it comes to Bdiddy and his props. He is just unfortunate and I think if his knee was never a problem, no telling how high we would rank among todays players. This isn't the first time he's led a team in the playoffs.

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                          • nkhera1
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 5913

                            #88
                            Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                            Originally posted by Leahmic223
                            Maybe I exaggerrated a bit on the "Not even close" I just get a little testy when it comes to Bdiddy and his props. He is just unfortunate and I think if his knee was never a problem, no telling how high we would rank among todays players. This isn't the first time he's led a team in the playoffs.
                            Its all good. I feel the same way with Nash.
                            Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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                            • aa2ba
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 1048

                              #89
                              Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                              Just remember, Nash was a mid to late 1st rounder, and a projected bench player/solid PG when he was drafted. Nobody thought he was an allstar, or MVP for that matter. Tallent is always debatable, but there is one thing that Nash has over every PG in the league.....Work Ethic!

                              He has worked from not being a top 30 PG in the NBA to being (a debateable) top 3 PG. The man is also very smart. Watch when he takes the bench. Most NBA players throw a towel on their head and start to yuk it up or sulk it out. Nash will wrap a towel around his neck and then put a warmup on. This is to trap the heat into his body so he does not get tight. Also, like Stockton, he is always in the game watching and looking for ways to win.

                              Some players, get hurt alot due to forces of nature. Some players are just dont get hurt (ie Joe Johnson), and there is guys like Nash who do everything they possibly can to try and stay loose and healthy.

                              To say Baron should get top 3 consideration due to what he could be if he had x-amount of healthy seasons is not fair to the all out efforts that Nash makes to stay healthy, and always thinking of ways to make the game easier.

                              Say what you want about Nash's defense, but if your injured your not guarding anyone, because your on the bench.

                              That said, Baron had a great game last night, and I wish him the best. When he is 85-100% he just might be the best ticket in the league. But to say hes # 1 in the NBA because he played 63 reg-season games and had a briliant game 1, is not fair to Kidd and Nash (Kidd 80 games -- 15 assists/10 reb in game 1 // Nash 76 games--20pts -10ast in game 1).

                              Before everyone starts hopping on that B-Diddy bandwagon (this is not a shot at anyone), try and give some points for consistency and hard work, not just the flash and the dreaded could/should be.
                              Last edited by aa2ba; 04-23-2007, 09:12 AM.

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                              • dossier
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2272

                                #90
                                Re: Best Point Guard in the League

                                Some reasons why Nash is better
                                1.Has great chemistry with everyone on the team
                                2.Can hold his toungue after a bad call
                                3.Nash is a better passer
                                4.Nash is a better shooter
                                5.Nash is smarter offensively
                                6.Nash is more clutch

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