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[TheMatrix31]

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But since that's not the way it works, Steve Nash is the MVP in my mind, but Dirk in Dallas will more than likely get the nod because of how well the Mavericks played during the season.

The impact that Nash has on his team versus Dirk on his offsets the what, five game differential between the teams.

That's just my opinion.

[Kashanova]

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Why would a guy who has yet to win a playoff series be voted as an MVP? BTW, you can report my post to the mods. I am currently shivering of the thought.

why should a guy who hasn't won a playoff series post shaq win one?

[P2K]

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If were not considering team records, then Kobe is MVP, plain and simple. Nobody has done what this man has done in recent history.

What...average 32 points and get into the playoffs?

Yeah, it's been done.

[Snigitty James]

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What...average 32 points and get into the playoffs?

Yeah, it's been done.

Uh what? Go re-watch the scoring frenzy Kobe had this season then get back to me.

[Snigitty James]

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The impact that Nash has on his team versus Dirk on his offsets the what, five game differential between the teams.

That's just my opinion.

Hell I agree with you. Steve Nash is the MVP.

[Streets]

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What...average 32 points and get into the playoffs?

Yeah, it's been done.

Tracy McGrady (2002-2003): 32.1 ppg (45.7%), 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.8 bpg, 2.6 TO. Led the league in scoring, Rockets were a #8 seed.

Kobe Bryant (2006-2007): 31.6 ppg (46.3%), 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.5 bpg, 3.31 TO. Led the league in scoring, Lakers are a #7 seed.

Never been done? T-Mac had arguably a better season and did not win the MVP. Kobe Bryant scored alot of points against mediocre teams, but he still averaged less than McGrady which means he scored far less against the good teams if he was stylin on the crappy ones.

Thing is, when Kobe does this stuff, he's the second coming. Anyone else? Nah.

[Metman24]

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Someone asked why anyone would vote or Lebron, well I did, and it's because if you go by who is the most irreplaceble to their team. It's him. If you put another good point guard in Phoenix, they still have a good record. T-Mac came on late in the season and put up good numbers, but Yao was the man for the first quarter of the season, and looked like he was going to have an MVP type season before getting hurt, I think that hurts Mcgrady's chances. Dirk, who I believe will win the award, got a lot of help from Terry and Howard all year. I agree he put up a great year, and they had the best record, but if Garnett, or Brand had the supporting cast, they'd be in the same discusion.

[aa2ba]

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Someone asked why anyone would vote or Lebron, well I did, and it's because if you go by who is the most irreplaceble to their team. It's him. If you put another good point guard in Phoenix, they still have a good record. T-Mac came on late in the season and put up good numbers, but Yao was the man for the first quarter of the season, and looked like he was going to have an MVP type season before getting hurt, I think that hurts Mcgrady's chances. Dirk, who I believe will win the award, got a lot of help from Terry and Howard all year. I agree he put up a great year, and they had the best record, but if Garnett, or Brand had the supporting cast, they'd be in the same discusion.

I am sorry but your argument is flawed. Nash is more valuable then Lebron. James has coasted for most of the year. You could put VC, Kobe, T-Mac, in his spot and the team would have done well too. You could make the claim that Lebron is more valuable, but when hes not giving maximum effort for the majority of the season, how is he considered valuable?

Nash on the other hand cannot be replaced by just another good point guard. Name one that is just as unselfish, a dead-eye shooter, and is truly an extension of his coach? Kidd is 2 of those 3, and playing the Phoenix style would cause his knees to let him down after 82 games rendering him useless in the playoffs. Baron (flavor of the month) Davis, maybe. But then again he is not an extension of his coach, and I don't think he could be as selfless as Nash over the course of the entire season. Not to mention the breakdown factor.

Lets all keep in mind that MVP is not a theory, it’s an award given based on excellence over the course of the entire season. With that in mind it really is only a 2 horse race, Dirk v. Nash. Both are worhy and I can't wait to see who the "experts" claim. Sorry Kobe fans, exellence is more than 42 wins.

[TheMatrix31]

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I am sorry but your argument is flawed. Nash is more valuable then Lebron. James has coasted for most of the year. You could put VC, Kobe, T-Mac, in his spot and the team would have done well too. You could make the claim that Lebron is more valuable, but when hes not giving maximum effort for the majority of the season, how is he considered valuable?

Nash on the other hand cannot be replaced by just another good point guard. Name one that is just as unselfish, a dead-eye shooter, and is truly an extension of his coach? Kidd is 2 of those 3, and playing the Phoenix style would cause his knees to let him down after 82 games rendering him useless in the playoffs. Baron (flavor of the month) Davis, maybe. But then again he is not an extension of his coach, and I don't think he could be as selfless as Nash over the course of the entire season. Not to mention the breakdown factor.

Lets all keep in mind that MVP is not a theory, it’s an award given based on excellence over the course of the entire season. With that in mind it really is only a 2 horse race, Dirk v. Nash. Both are worhy and I can't wait to see who the "experts" claim. Sorry Kobe fans, exellence is more than 42 wins.

Excellent post, man.

The only guys I can see doing what Nash is doing (or something similar) is Deron Williams, or Chris Paul. But neither of them come close to being the shooter that Nash is.

[ZB9]

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Nash on the other hand cannot be replaced by just another good point guard.

Jason Terry?

[TheMatrix31]

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Jason Terry?

I really think you do this just to piss people off, seriously.

[Flyboy]

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I'm not disputing the claim, but does he need to publicly state this? They were discussing how back in the old days, nobody felt the need to say these things. Personally, I would be pissed if Steve Nash ever said anything like that. Marion already made stupid comments about even considering joining a lesser team just to get MVP consideration without considering the fact that he cannot create offense for himself.

Haha. First, it's "T-Mac's not a leader of the team... he needs to stop deferring to Yao and be the leader of Houston" and when he does come out and state it he gets ridiculed for it? Tremendous.

[dossier]

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It is officially announced that Dirk Nowitzki is the NBA's Most Valuable Player. It's at NBA.com

[Brandon13]

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It is officially announced that Dirk Nowitzki is the NBA's Most Valuable Player. It's at NBA.com

That's a survey of GMs, not the official thing.

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Tracy McGrady (2002-2003): 32.1 ppg (45.7%), 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.8 bpg, 2.6 TO. Led the league in scoring, Rockets were a #8 seed.

Kobe Bryant (2006-2007): 31.6 ppg (46.3%), 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.5 bpg, 3.31 TO. Led the league in scoring, Lakers are a #7 seed.

Never been done? T-Mac had arguably a better season and did not win the MVP. Kobe Bryant scored alot of points against mediocre teams, but he still averaged less than McGrady which means he scored far less against the good teams if he was stylin on the crappy ones.

Thing is, when Kobe does this stuff, he's the second coming. Anyone else? Nah.

Dont you mean ORL was an #8 seed?

When Houston got to the playoffs they were a #6 seed.