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  • ZB9
    Hall Of Fame
    • Nov 2004
    • 18387

    #121
    Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

    this explains a lot

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #122
      Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

      Originally posted by The C
      Couldn't the government have told them not to suspend him? If they are also trying to nail the people Donaghy has worked with, wouldn't it be unwise to have the bait suspended out of the blue?
      I didn't say they should've suspended him but rather they could've done what they always do when it comes to picking refs for the playoffs. Just leave him off the playoff roster and there'd be no way anyone would know anything about it.
      Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

      "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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      • ZB9
        Hall Of Fame
        • Nov 2004
        • 18387

        #123
        Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

        I had to quote Jason Reynolds for truth -

        "Basketball fans around the globe are aware of Mark Cuban's sometimes painfully public profile. He is the type of person that elicits an extreme reaction. Whatever your personal opinion of Cuban may be, its very hard not to appreciate his contribution to the Mavs and to the NBA in light of the current game fixing scandal.

        Cuban is yet again at the forefront of his industry. He led a well-concerted charge to fix the officiating problem in the NBA after having identified a glaring vulnerability in the NBA product. Specifically in the integrity of the game. Had Stern and his crook assembly actually listened to Cuban and heeded his warnings, these problems could have been ironed out before the FBI had to come in and fix the problem.

        Cuban tried to wake us all up. He tried to tell us that something was wrong. When both the NBA fans and the NBA management ignored him because they were all comfortable in their little child-like imaginary world of sport integrity, he decided to get the heck out of dodge. Thank goodness he decided to stay on for awhile to be around to see the problem finally addressed."
        Last edited by ZB9; 07-24-2007, 11:12 AM.

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        • J0nnD0ugh
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 16602

          #124
          Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

          Originally posted by ZB9
          I had to quote Jason Reynolds for truth - "Cuban is yet again at the forefront of his industry. He led a well-concerted charge to fix the officiating problem in the NBA after having identified a glaring vulnerability in the NBA product. Specifically in the integrity of the game. Had Stern and his crook assembly actually listened to Cuban and heeded his warnings, these problems could have been ironed out before the FBI had to come in and fix the problem.

          Cuban tried to wake us all up. He tried to tell us that something was wrong. When both the NBA fans and the NBA management ignored him because they were all comfortable in their little child-like imaginary world of sport integrity, he decided to get the heck out of dodge. Thank goodness he decided to stay on for awhile to be around to see the problem finally addressed."
          Its funny. Canseco was vilified for naming names about steroids & then it turns out he's right. Cuban had to go through the same thing & now he's been vindicated.

          Folks gotta realize, the sports media is no longer an independent press. They are business partners of the leagues. They aren't going to come up with the goods until they are @ the edge of the cliff.
          Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
          I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
          -August 17, 1960
          Thanks, dookies!

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          • ZB9
            Hall Of Fame
            • Nov 2004
            • 18387

            #125
            Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

            Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
            Its funny. Canseco was vilified for naming names about steroids & then it turns out he's right. Cuban had to go through the same thing & now he's been vindicated.

            Folks gotta realize, the sports media is no longer an independent press. They are business partners of the leagues. They aren't going to come up with the goods until they are @ the edge of the cliff.
            so true.

            i watched the press conference. it was not suprising that the ESPN and ABC reporters asked the softball questions.

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            • ZB9
              Hall Of Fame
              • Nov 2004
              • 18387

              #126
              Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

              the New York Daily News reports:

              "Federal authorities believe the referee at the center of the betting and game-fixing probe rocking the NBA will cooperate with investigators - and name other officials or players involved in the scandal, law enforcement sources told The News."

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              • Freelance
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 7021

                #127
                Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

                If there are several other referees and players involved, this league is finished.

                Mark Cuban should be made commissioner tomorrow. In fact, with his deep pockets, I wonder if he might uncovered this and tipped the feds in the first place.

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                • J0nnD0ugh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 16602

                  #128
                  Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

                  I like this Mike Mathis guy. Dude is on point w/everything so far.
                  Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
                  I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
                  -August 17, 1960
                  Thanks, dookies!

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                  • dossier
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2272

                    #129
                    Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

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                    Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                    If its all true that games were fixed, how can this be made up for the team that got screwed?? This was the suns year to make it and it was so possible to win it all.

                    The Suns have now a vendetta for next year. Mark Cuban was doing the right thing all along complaing about the refs.

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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52926

                      #130
                      Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

                      It's a reason why I've always loved Mark Cuban when it comes to him bitching about the referees.

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                      • Skins4Life
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2286

                        #131
                        Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

                        The NBA found out about this happening AFTER the NBA finals

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                        • snepp
                          We'll waste him too.
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 10007

                          #132
                          Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

                          Originally posted by Skins4Life
                          The NBA found out about this happening AFTER the NBA finals
                          Wasn't there a report that the NBA knew about it as far back as January?
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                          • Dipstick
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 659

                            #133
                            Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

                            Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                            I like this Mike Mathis guy. Dude is on point w/everything so far.
                            Wasn't Mike Mathis involved in some sort of scandal with the IRS some years back?

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                            • J0nnD0ugh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 16602

                              #134
                              Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

                              Originally posted by Dipstick
                              Wasn't Mike Mathis involved in some sort of scandal with the IRS some years back?
                              Could be. I know very little about any referee. But Mathis' comments about the league's "monitoring" of officiating performance was really eye opening. It showed how "sincere" the NBA's program really is.
                              Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
                              I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
                              -August 17, 1960
                              Thanks, dookies!

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                              • Skins4Life
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2286

                                #135
                                Re: NBA Ref Fixing Games?

                                Originally posted by snepp
                                Wasn't there a report that the NBA knew about it as far back as January?
                                No, that is not correct.

                                The NBA, did, know about about the incident with his neighbor. They also were told about his alleged gambling in Atlantic city, but when they went to investigate not one person working the tables could confirm this.

                                If the NBA had found one receipt saying he had gambled that would have been cause for termination.

                                Supposedly the FBI told the NBA about this on June 20, but dont quote me on that date. I know it was very recent, and that is why he was allowed to continue to officiate games.

                                EDIT: Here is a quote I found from the press confrence

                                The FBI first contacted the NBA on June 20 to talk about a referee alleged to be gambling on games, and the two sides met on June 21, Stern said"

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