NBA Ref Fixing Games?

[GSW]

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I mean this is a bigtime issue tho.

were talking about FIXING GAMES.

How many finals games were fixed to determine a champion?
How many playoff games?
How many regular season games in which players broke records?

This is BAD

[23]

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I know it's bad. Fans have recognized it for a long time.

Stern made all of the players and coaches shut up.

He never reprimanded them, except Joey who might have snitched on the L.

Stern isn't blinded by anything TO, just money hungry.

[Graphik]

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Meh...doesn't suprise me the least. I've always been confident in knowing that all sports have some type of BS system in place for shaving points or going with a spread. I dont think games are actually fixed but are usually swayed in terms of momentum, home court advantage, etc. Football being the least and Basketball being the worst IMO.

[mgoblue]

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this could deal a big blow to the NBA....way bigger than the image problems, or even what the NFL is dealing with. You're talking about the integrity of the game here. Wow.

[SPTO]

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Meh...doesn't suprise me the least. I've always been confident in knowing that all sports have some type of BS system in place for shaving points or going with a spread. I dont think games are actually fixed but are usually swayed in terms of momentum, home court advantage, etc. Football being the least and Basketball being the worst IMO.

I'd actually say football is worse. I've seen situations where coaches made dubious moves that affected the score and therefore the spread.

[thelwig14]

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All I can say is, there is no way it is only one ref.....

[Graphik]

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I'd actually say football is worse. I've seen situations where coaches made dubious moves that affected the score and therefore the spread.

You're probably right. All sports probably have some level of BS going on. Baseball, America's bread and butter and longest living sport is probably effected the worse if you think about it.

[Muzyk23]

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I say it's great that sth like this came to light. Now, it's perfect chance for Stern to fix the problem with referees once and for all. By the way, I think he needs a shock therapy like this to get his mind on the most important issues within the league.

[Freelance]

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The problem with basketball is, it's so easy for an official to do this subtlely.

It doesn't take an obvious late-game bad call to determine a game. It's done by calling a touch foul early in the fourth quarter on a key player, after calling another one early in the game.

Football and baseball is more difficult for refs/umps to fix. Basketball is so full of close calls by nature that this would be easy to do.

Plus, I've always questioned the legitimacy of the NBA due to its star treatment.

[fsquid]

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things make so much sense now.

[ehh]

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You're probably right. All sports probably have some level of BS going on. Baseball, America's bread and butter and longest living sport is probably effected the worse if you think about it.

Definitely, a game who's unofficial motto is "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" is a total mess. I don't even want to know the amount of illegal crap that goes on in baseball.

That's why I'll pretend that after Game 3 of the '04 ALCS some organized crime syndicate threatened the life of every Yankee player and their families if they don't lose the series.

[Brandon13]

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ESPN.com is reporting that the referee is Tim Donaghy.

[Dice]

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Football and baseball is more difficult for refs/umps to fix. Basketball is so full of close calls by nature that this would be easy to do.

I don't know about that. In football I'd say majority of holding calls on offensive linemen could be questionable. There are very few holding calls that are blantenly obvious. Same goes for pass interference. Another grey area foul. What's to say an ump doesn't/does call these penalties in the critical moments of the game? These penalties could affect the outcome of a game because they are grey area fouls.

Baseball is another game that's easy to fix. What's to say they can expand/shorten the strike zone for a particular team? Calling balls and strikes for baseball umps is less forgiving because most of it is accepted fact that umps have their own strike zone no matter what the rules say. Baseball could be the easiest sport to fix because even the best umpires make at least one bad judgement on calling balls and strikes in almost every game.

[heitkamp94]

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ESPN.com is reporting that the referee is Tim Donaghy.

yea thats his name, he has recently resigned. supposedly the fixes were in games where he'd bet and it was more point shaving then straight up deciding which team would win. Either way its a big black eye for the league

[Graphik]

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I don't know about that. In football I'd say majority of holding calls on offensive linemen could be questionable. There are very few holding calls that are blantenly obvious. Same goes for pass interference. Another grey area foul. What's to say an ump doesn't/does call these penalties in the critical moments of the game? These penalties could affect the outcome of a game because they are grey area fouls.

Baseball is another game that's easy to fix. What's to say they can expand/shorten the strike zone for a particular team? Calling balls and strikes for baseball umps is less forgiving because most of it is accepted fact that umps have their own strike zone no matter what the rules say. Baseball could be the easiest sport to fix because even the best umpires make at least one bad judgement on calling balls and strikes in almost every game.

Thing about football is at least they have the replay system to fix alot of bad judgement calls. Holding is more than likely the key penalty that determines the fix since it is'nt reviewable.