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  • Muzyk23
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 4192

    #16
    Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

    MVP award comes with the team success.
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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #17
      Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

      Originally posted by Muzyk23
      MVP award comes with the team success.
      then someone call the 5-0, dirk stole something

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      • Cebby
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        • Apr 2005
        • 22327

        #18
        Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

        Originally posted by The 23rd Letter
        then someone call the 5-0, dirk stole something
        Obviously. A 67-15 record just doesn't cut it these days.

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        • AtlantaFalconFan
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 1305

          #19
          Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

          Originally posted by The Soldier
          Obviously. A 67-15 record just doesn't cut it these days.
          then getting beat by the 8th seed in the playoffs and being a NO SHOW in the playoffs?

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          • Bornindamecca
            Books Nelson Simnation
            • Jul 2007
            • 10919

            #20
            Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

            Originally posted by AtlantaFalconFan
            then getting beat by the 8th seed in the playoffs and being a NO SHOW in the playoffs?
            It's a regular season award.
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            • Muzyk23
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              • Feb 2003
              • 4192

              #21
              Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
              It's a regular season award.
              exactly
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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #22
                Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

                Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                It's a regular season award.
                maybe "most valuable player" is the wrong name for the award then.....

                b\c going casper during the playoffs isnt what a valuable player does

                nash may have lost his last two.....but he showed up at least

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                • Muzyk23
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 4192

                  #23
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                  ?
                  Originally posted by The 23rd Letter
                  maybe "most valuable player" is the wrong name for the award then.....

                  b\c going casper during the playoffs isnt what a valuable player does

                  nash may have lost his last two.....but he showed up at least
                  do you think Nowitzki wanted to play poorly that series?!
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                  • The 24th Letter
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                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #24
                    Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

                    Originally posted by Muzyk23
                    ?

                    do you think Nowitzki wanted to play poorly that series?!
                    huh?
                    who ever wants to play poorly?
                    if you could press a "play good" button to perform well every night im sure wed have ALOT more canidates for MVP

                    fortunatly, this is real life....
                    some superstars step up, some dont

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                    • Muzyk23
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                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4192

                      #25
                      Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

                      Originally posted by The 23rd Letter
                      huh?
                      who ever wants to play poorly?
                      if you could press a "play good" button to perform well every night im sure wed have ALOT more canidates for MVP

                      fortunatly, this is real life....
                      some superstars step up, some dont
                      ok, I will rephrase it...do you think he did not want to step up?
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                      • Streets
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                        • Aug 2004
                        • 5787

                        #26
                        Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

                        Not a bad start for McGrady.

                        T-Mac named Western Conference Player of the Week

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                        • RoyalBoyle78
                          Aka."Footballforever"
                          • May 2003
                          • 23918

                          #27
                          Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

                          Originally posted by Streets
                          All platic is saying is if T-Mac stays healthy, he has a chance. I don't think he's crowning anybody after three games like alot of people are saying.

                          Personally, I don't think he has a shot for many different reasons. To name a few...

                          1. The two superstar theory. When you have a two-man team, the two superstars steal MVP votes from one another, canceling each other out. So, Yao is going to hurt his chances.

                          2. No matter how much better T-Mac plays, everyone will say Kobe is better, whether the evidence supports it or not. And most will also say LeBron and Wade are as well (not saying they won't be better than T-Mac this season, but even if they aren't people will still say they are).

                          3. McGrady is generally overlooked and underrated in the NBA.

                          4. The Rockets play in the toughest division in the league, which will affect their record.

                          5. Once averaged 32.0, 6.5, and 5.5 and didn't win it. Last year he carried the team through a Yao Ming injury, had the highest player usage rating, created all the offense in JVG's (non) system, got homecourt in the brutal west, and was never in serious contention for the award.
                          I hear where your coming from, but to your number 2, Kobe is Way better and will always be better, T-mac has had to many injuries....
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                          • Streets
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 5787

                            #28
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                            Originally posted by FootballForever
                            I hear where your coming from, but to your number 2, Kobe is Way better and will always be better, T-mac has had to many injuries....
                            That's my point. T-Mac could have the better season and people will still say "Kobe is the better player". How could T-Mac win the award when he isn't even the best at his position, or if he's a "second-tier" swingman? I don't want to turn this into Mac vs. Kobe (version 1,045,542,331.04), but all I'm saying is the constant bigging up of Kobe could hurt T-mac's chances. That "he will ALWAYS be better" pretty much says it all.

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                            • Bornindamecca
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                              • Jul 2007
                              • 10919

                              #29
                              Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

                              Originally posted by Streets
                              That's my point. T-Mac could have the better season and people will still say "Kobe is the better player". How could T-Mac win the award when he isn't even the best at his position, or if he's a "second-tier" swingman? I don't want to turn this into Mac vs. Kobe (version 1,045,542,331.04), but all I'm saying is the constant bigging up of Kobe could hurt T-mac's chances. That "he will ALWAYS be better" pretty much says it all.

                              I disagree. It's all about team success. If both the Lakers and the Rockets won sixty games, then sure, what you're saying would be applicable. However, if the Rockets take care of business in the regular season and win near sixty or better than that, then only other swingmen in the winning class will be brought up. I don't like the "best player on the best team" definition of the MVP award, because it's not true. The Mavs would still win a ton of games if you traded Dirk for any very good small forward, because of the talent around Dirk. The MVP should be for the player that adds the most wins to his team. However, that's not how they see it, and as such the "best player" is not a shoe in for the award unless he wins over fifty games OR joins a losing franchise and makes them a winning franchise in one year.
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                              • nkhera1
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                                • Oct 2003
                                • 5913

                                #30
                                Re: T-Mac = 2007 League MVP...?

                                Originally posted by Streets
                                That's my point. T-Mac could have the better season and people will still say "Kobe is the better player". How could T-Mac win the award when he isn't even the best at his position, or if he's a "second-tier" swingman? I don't want to turn this into Mac vs. Kobe (version 1,045,542,331.04), but all I'm saying is the constant bigging up of Kobe could hurt T-mac's chances. That "he will ALWAYS be better" pretty much says it all.
                                Jordan didn't win the award every year even though he was considered the best player in the league by far (BTW not saying Kobe is comparable to MJ).
                                Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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