Who are the best five Lakers?

[dodgerblue]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

Magic
Kareem
West
Worthy
Kobe

[yvesdereuter]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

I'm not confusing anything. I'm just talking about what he won with the Lakers. Multiple MVPs, first team all defense, second team all defense, titles, scoring titles, leading the league in several categories at times, being top five in several categories. The man's record as a Laker is ridiculous.

Im not saying championships is the end all, be all but out of curiosity, how many championships did the Lakers win with Kareem before Magic Johnson arrived? I know he won in Milwaukee but I think they had Robertson. Kareem was the main guy and all but Im just curious. Its not like Wilt and Shaq won in LA all by themselves either.

[ZM Punk]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

I'm not confusing anything. I'm just talking about what he won with the Lakers. Multiple MVPs, first team all defense, second team all defense, titles, scoring titles, leading the league in several categories at times, being top five in several categories. The man's record as a Laker is ridiculous.

All I'm saying is that the man won as many MVP's in Milwaukee as he did in LA in half as many years. Even without all of that you could still make an argument for some guys to be over him anyway. Its not like Wilt, Mikan, West, Baylor, Magic, Worthy, Shaq, or Kobe don't deserve mention anyway.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

All I'm saying is that the man won as many MVP's in Milwaukee as he did in LA in half as many years. Even without all of that you could still make an argument for some guys to be over him anyway. Its not like Wilt, Mikan, West, Baylor, Magic, Worthy, Shaq, or Kobe don't deserve mention anyway.

George Mikan is a BS entry, because no one has seen him play. He came before "contemporary basketball", which you can date back to about 1975, give or take a couple years. Magic is on the list already, hands down. I don't know how you can make an argument for James Worthy. That's unfathomable to me. At that point, I'll just tap out, tell you flat out that I don't respect your eye for basketball, and close the discussion.

Worthy over Kareem. Right.

Re:yvesdereuter

Study on yer own time, kid, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareem_Abdul_Jabar

[yvesdereuter]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

Study on yer own time, kid, lol.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareem_Abdul_Jabar

Who is this directed at?

[dragon4ever]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

Magic
Shaq
Wilt
Kareem
Kobe

[ZM Punk]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

George Mikan is a BS entry, because no one has seen him play. He came before "contemporary basketball", which you can date back to about 1975, give or take a couple years. Magic is on the list already, hands down. I don't know how you can make an argument for James Worthy. That's unfathomable to me. At that point, I'll just tap out, tell you flat out that I don't respect your eye for basketball, and close the discussion.

Worthy over Kareem. Right.

Re:yvesdereuter

Study on yer own time, kid, lol.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareem_Abdul_Jabar

Show me where I once said that I would pick Kareem over Worthy. Never once did I even say that Kareem didn't deserve to be on the list. And to say you can't put Mikan on the list is pretty much saying basketball before 1975 basically didn't exist. Like you said with Kareem, the numbers speak for themselves and Mikan had some pretty damn good numbers. Not to mention his 5 NBA championships and his selection as one of the top 50 players in league history.



But anyway, I forgot you can't have a discussion on this board, because everyone thinks they're basketball savants.


My top 5 Lakers

Johnson
West
Bryant
Chamberlain
Jabbar

[Rocky]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

1. Magic
2. Kareem
3. Shaq
4. Bryant
5. West

[yvesdereuter]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

George Mikan is a BS entry, because no one has seen him play. He came before "contemporary basketball", which you can date back to about 1975, give or take a couple years. Magic is on the list already, hands down. I don't know how you can make an argument for James Worthy. That's unfathomable to me. At that point, I'll just tap out, tell you flat out that I don't respect your eye for basketball, and close the discussion.

Worthy over Kareem. Right.

Re:yvesdereuter

Study on yer own time, kid, lol.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareem_Abdul_Jabar

Study on my own time. Im not the one rebuking people for not giving Kareem credit during his tenure as a Laker. If youre going to yell and scream about this dont whine because someone asks you a question about it. If you dont know then simply say you dont know and dont try to play it off like its my responsibility to back up what youre talking about. No. Thats at your feet not mine. But, again, if you dont know, just say so and dont try this smokescreen to hide the fact that youre speaking from a position while lacking information.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

Bike chains break when you back pedal. First:

Are we taking Kareem's whole career into this discussion or just his time with the Lakers? If its just his time with the Lakers, I would have a tough time putting him in the top 5.

hm...why's that?

All I'm saying is that the man won as many MVP's in Milwaukee as he did in LA in half as many years. Even without all of that you could still make an argument for some guys to be over him anyway.

Hm...guys like who, zitomulder?

Its not like Wilt, Mikan, West, Baylor, Magic, Worthy, Shaq, or Kobe don't deserve mention anyway.

Where would I get the idea that you would make an argument for Worthy over Kareem?

I'm willing to discuss the game, clearly, because I'm on this messageboard and I'm having discussions.
-However-
Just because we're open to discussions doesn't mean that we have to entertain absurd points of view, like making an argument for James Worthy over Kareem Abdul Jabar.

[ZM Punk]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

Study on my own time. Im not the one rebuking people for not giving Kareem credit during his tenure as a Laker. If youre going to yell and scream about this dont whine because someone asks you a question about it. If you dont know then simply say you dont know and dont try to play it off like its my responsibility to back up what youre talking about. No. Thats at your feet not mine. But, again, if you dont know, just say so and dont try this smokescreen to hide the fact that youre speaking from a position while lacking information.

This is the basketball board yves. You know that everyone on this board for the most part are basketball geniuses and if you don't agree with said person(s), you're an idiot.:wink:

[ZM Punk]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

A tough time means that you could make an argument for other people. You're making it out like I'm saying that Kareem was some kind of scrub or something. And I have no idea how you would come to the conclusion that a top 50 player in NBA history shouldn't be in the discussion for this top 5 list... but thats just me.



And saying that Worthy deserves mention as one of the greatest Lakers is not saying that should be on the list above Kareem.

[yvesdereuter]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

This is the basketball board yves. You know that everyone on this board for the most part are basketball geniuses and if you don't agree with said person(s), you're an idiot.:wink:

Sad to say but indeed it is that way some times...OK, its that way a lot.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

Study on my own time. Im not the one rebuking people for not giving Kareem credit during his tenure as a Laker. If youre going to yell and scream about this dont whine because someone asks you a question about it. If you dont know then simply say you dont know and dont try to play it off like its my responsibility to back up what youre talking about. No. Thats at your feet not mine. But, again, if you dont know, just say so and dont try this smokescreen to hide the fact that youre speaking from a position while lacking information.

You mean how dare I answer you with a link providing all of the pertinent Kareem info? Now one would deduce that since I gave you the information, I already possessed said data, but that's just in my own crazy logic. It's not my job to figure out why you flunked Kareem 101. There is the link and either get the info or don't.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Who are the best five Lakers?

A tough time means that you could make an argument for other people. .

Right, like Worthy. We covered that. It was your list, not mine.

You're making it out like I'm saying that Kareem was some kind of scrub or something.

I never alluded to that in any way. You just made that up to emphasize a hollow point.

And I have no idea how you would come to the conclusion that a top 50 player in NBA history shouldn't be in the discussion for this top 5 list... but thats just me.

Within the context of the Lakers and Kareem, I don't think there is any reason to discuss James Worthy until you are done discussing Kareem, which is the point of the discussion.

And saying that Worthy deserves mention as one of the greatest Lakers is not saying that should be on the list above Kareem.

You made a list of people you could argue over Kareem and you listed Worthy.