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  • ZB9
    Hall Of Fame
    • Nov 2004
    • 18387

    #91
    Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

    Originally posted by cubsfan203
    LOL. So an article on CNN makes Texas racist? I've lived here for 15 years and have NEVER seen ONE person flat out be racist towards another.
    pretty incredible I agree

    that article somehow makes the entiiiire state of Texas racist...and that sentiment shared by Stumble and others somehow supports the validity of Karl's comments

    even IF Karl wasn't exaggerating (which I would bet he is exaggerating, or flat out lying), it would be an isolated incident and would have nothing to do with the entire state of Texas being "racist"

    I have a question to some in this thread. Do you look at any white person from Texas or even from the south and automatically assume they are racist?

    I should have left this BS thread a while ago

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    • ZB9
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      • Nov 2004
      • 18387

      #92
      Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

      Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
      We know the term thug has racial undertones.
      not really. Chris Anderson is a posterboy for the "Thuggets". They have that thug life down in Iola, Texas

      btw, Kenyon Martin was born and raised in Dallas, Texas

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      • DC
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2002
        • 17996

        #93
        Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

        What do you mean not really? Cbo lets not play dumb man.
        Concrete evidence/videos please

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        • Stumbleweed
          Livin' the dream
          • Oct 2006
          • 6279

          #94
          Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

          Originally posted by ZB9
          I have a question to some in this thread. Do you look at any white person from Texas or even from the south and automatically assume they are racist?
          No, but I don't think they're beyond being racist, which was the sentiment in this threat in a lot of posts. Rural Colorado contains its fair share of racist as **** people, and I know that Texas is the same way, along with all the normal good ol' USA brand of passively racist people who hide it well when in mixed company such as a basketball game.

          Stop acting like I'm painting your entire state as racist (it is part of 'The South' writ-large though, hate to break it to you). This could (and does) happen elsewhere in the country, but it has a unique potential to happen in heated situations that have already been given racial undertones (Cuban calling him a "thug").

          ZB, get back at me when you can find a mention of someone calling a sports figure other than a black man a "thug". I'll wait. Birdman being lumped in with "The Thuggets" doesn't count. Hockey players have actual thugs who beat people up as a part of the job description, but nobody calls them thugs, and that's not an accident.
          Last edited by Stumbleweed; 05-14-2009, 04:36 PM.
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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #95
            Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

            One more chance to clean up the off topic stuff and thats all. If any other mod wants to lock it back then they are free, but we need to keep it off of the entire state of wherever and on what happened at hand.
            Last edited by 23; 05-14-2009, 04:46 PM.

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            • Stumbleweed
              Livin' the dream
              • Oct 2006
              • 6279

              #96
              Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

              Yeah, no more from me in this thread. Series is over, water under the bridge.

              Sorry if I offended any Texas people.

              Go Nuggets!
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              • ZB9
                Hall Of Fame
                • Nov 2004
                • 18387

                #97
                Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                Originally posted by Stumbleweed
                No, but I don't think they're beyond being racist, which was the sentiment in this threat in a lot of posts. Rural Colorado contains its fair share of racist as **** people, and I know that Texas is the same way, along with all the normal good ol' USA brand of passively racist people who hide it well when in mixed company such as a basketball game.

                Stop acting like I'm painting your entire state as racist (it is part of 'The South' writ-large though, hate to break it to you). This could (and does) happen elsewhere in the country, but it has a unique potential to happen in heated situations that have already been given racial undertones (Cuban calling him a "thug").
                since we are generalizing

                Texas folks overall tend to be extremely friendly and polite and concerned about manners to a fault. It would be very out of character for a large segment of the crowd at the AAC to start hurling racial slurs. It just doesnt make sense to people that have spent a lot of time there.

                Sure there are some really rowdy people there. Folks there know how to raise some serious hell and have fun, but the racial thing is out of character...since we are generalizing. Dallas crowds have the rep of being "wine and cheese" or "boobs and coke" crowds. The "Belgrade" comment from the Denver GM just seems like BS. I had friends that were there stating that Trina and other Nuggets people were talking ish, and they were getting it right back.

                there are A LOT of Texans in Colorado Stumble. Im sure you have met quite a few Texans. You know how freaking polite and friendly we are (well not me, im full of crapola, im talking about MOST Texans)

                ZB, get back at me when you can find a mention of someone calling a sports figure other than a black man a "thug". I'll wait. Birdman being lumped in with "The Thuggets" doesn't count. Hockey players have actual thugs who beat people up as a part of the job description, but nobody calls them thugs, and that's not an accident.
                dude, Birdman would be considered a thug, and he is from Iola, Texas.

                as far as hockey, they are called thugs all of the time

                I see what you are saying, but I dont think it would apply in this case.
                Last edited by ZB9; 05-14-2009, 06:32 PM.

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                • ZB9
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                  • Nov 2004
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                  #98
                  Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                  Originally posted by Stumbleweed
                  Yeah, no more from me in this thread. Series is over, water under the bridge.

                  Sorry if I offended any Texas people.

                  Go Nuggets!
                  all I know is if Melo and Billups play like they did in the Mavs series, the Lakers do not match up well at all with Denver. The Lakers are MUCH better than Dallas this season [/understatement], but they dont match up well at all with the Nuggets imo

                  LA does not have a point guard the caliber of Billups, and Pau is going to have his hands full. As far as Melo and Kobe, Melo is going to hold his own in that shootout. We could very well see Denver in the finals (and to think people were criticizing Denver for "blowing up" their team after trading Camby and AI)
                  Last edited by ZB9; 05-14-2009, 06:09 PM.

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #99
                    Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                    but it would have had to have been pretty loud slurs for Karl to hear it on the court. Im pretty sure other people would have heard these racial slurs besides Karl.
                    That's what I was thinking as well.
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • Jukeman
                      Showtime
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10955

                      #100
                      Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                      hmmm.... Maybe im ignorant but yelling "Thuggets" to a all black tattoo having BASKETBALL team is pretty racist to me especially coming from a Dallas crowd.....Ive been to dallas alot btw....

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                      • SuperBowlNachos
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 10218

                        #101
                        Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                        Pretty sure Anderson was called a thug too and he is white.

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                        • DC
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 17996

                          #102
                          Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                          Originally posted by olliethebum85
                          Pretty sure Anderson was called a thug too and he is white.
                          He isn't "white" though
                          Concrete evidence/videos please

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                          • Jukeman
                            Showtime
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10955

                            #103
                            Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                            why are they called "thuggets" anyway? Please someone give a good answer....

                            And please dont say because of melo and the law....Im not a thug and had trouble with tge law at some point in my life....Im sure some of you have too....Bottom line is the Nuggets is a professional basketball team and none of those players are corner boys...They also dont go around fighting people lije you see "enforcers" do in hockey...

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                            • Stumbleweed
                              Livin' the dream
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 6279

                              #104
                              Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                              Because they're primarily made up of black guys with tattoos and (formerly) cornrows... it's code word. Every out of touch mid-50's white newspaper columnist around the country knows what it means and they use it with a grin every time they want to paint a negative image of a player.

                              In the Nuggets case, they are shaking off stuff with Melo going back to the "Stop Snitchin'" video as well as the weed in his travel bag, the DUI (which isn't thug-like at all, just stupid), and the fight in NYC. When they got AI, the label was applied by a lot more people -- having a guy like K-Mart, who is physical on the court and has also had some off-court problems (like the bodyguard in the crowd thing) makes it easier to apply the label and write it off as a basketball term, which it definitely is not. Enforcer in hockey /= "thug" as applied to basketbal players

                              It's hilarious that people are saying "but they call Birdman a thug too!" -- that's the rhetorical equivalent of the "I have black friends" argument haha...

                              (leaving thread again)
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                              • WazzuRC
                                Go Cougs!
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 5617

                                #105
                                Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                                Originally posted by ZB9
                                because ive been to a crapload of Mavs games, and never heard anything close to a racial slur. I seriously doubt it could or would happen in Dallas.

                                it's quite a serious charge to say that a crowd of fans were yelling racial slurs (and very difficult to believe)
                                So because you've been to Mavericks games means it can't happen? LOL, I've heard it all.

                                I've been to countless NBA games and never seen any player jump in the stands and attack fans, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. I've been to 100's of Mariners games and never seen a bench clearing brawl, doesn't mean it can't happen.

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