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  • ZB9
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    • Nov 2004
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    #46
    Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

    Originally posted by Stumbleweed

    George Karl, Billups, etc. don't fit the mold of people who would just lie about this for no reason. I can see people doubting LaLa because she has a reason to cover up her actions at the end of the game and explain the report from that Dallas fan (who missed much of the part of the game when things were getting out of hand, BTW).. but really, George Karl and Billups are gonna lie and say there was harassment? Billups specifically said that his wife and his Dad had problems, and George said that the players were receiving racial insults... not something to be said lightly by an NBA coach.
    im not talking about harassment and heckling, im talking about "racial slurs"...George Karl and Lala are the only ones that have made that accusation.

    I think it's pretty obvious that Lala was trying to cover her ***, but it would have had to have been pretty loud slurs for Karl to hear it on the court. Im pretty sure other people would have heard these racial slurs besides Karl.
    Last edited by ZB9; 05-14-2009, 02:31 PM.

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    • Stumbleweed
      Livin' the dream
      • Oct 2006
      • 6279

      #47
      Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

      Okay, let's think about this rationally.

      Tensions are high, it's a playoff game

      Fans are likely drunk or at least buzzed, as most fans at NBA games are

      There was a tight loss last game and the fans felt robbed

      After said contested game, there was a confrontation between Mark Cuban (their team's owner) and Kenyon Martin's mom, who got plenty of national coverage and thus everyone knew what she looked like

      That coverage of the confrontation included bits about Mark Cuban using the racially-loaded term "thug" in regards to Kenyon Martin

      The crowd is majority white, like EVERY NBA arena in the universe -- because NBA tickets are ****ing expensive, especially for playoff seats in the lower level

      The Nuggets family members are black

      The Nuggets supporters may have been acting stupid or gloating when the game was looking like an easy win

      Tensions rise as the fans start heckling the Nuggets family members

      You really think that there's no chance that something was said at that particular point? I'm not arguing that Dallas fans (or NBA fans in general) are just gonna throw out racial slurs for no reason, but this practically the perfect storm. Come on.
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      • ZB9
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        #48
        Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

        Originally posted by Bornindamecca
        This is so naive, I can't even debate it.
        dont want to turn this into a racial/political thread

        but ive been to more NBA games than I can count, and I dont hear people yelling out racial slurs. It would make no sense considering you would also be insulting most of the players on your own team.
        Last edited by ZB9; 05-14-2009, 02:21 PM.

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        • ZB9
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          #49
          Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

          Originally posted by Freelance
          Because it's so transparent. When someone throws out "racist", a segment always runs with it and it distracts from the real truth of the matter, that Trina and LaLa were being obnoxious and drinking the whole game and got themselves thrown out.

          It happens time and time and time again.

          If someone was making racist cracks towards someone at a game, I'd get involved to have them thrown out. So would you, and 98 percent of the population. Under no circumstances is that acceptable, and frankly, people don't pay $200 to go to a playoff game and spew racism. That's not why they're there.

          It's such an easy copout, and they know certain people, and the media, will rally around them if they just cry racism.

          I'm sick of it.
          quoted for truth

          this post says it all...and now Im out of this thread

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          • Bornindamecca
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            • Jul 2007
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            #50
            Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

            Originally posted by ZB9
            dont want to turn this into a racial/political thread

            but ive been to more NBA games than I can count, and I dont hear people yelling out racial slurs. It would make no sense considering you would also be insulting most of the players on your own team.
            Many, many players of different personality types, demeanors, backgrounds and levels of importance have confirmed racial slurs from hecklers at NBA games.
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            • DC
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              • Oct 2002
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              #51
              Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

              Originally posted by Freelance
              Whatever. It didn't happen. People don't do that here,.
              FUnniest post of the entire thread. Since when can you speak for a WHOLE city/region? They don't do that there? I won't even go there man.
              Concrete evidence/videos please

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              • DC
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                • Oct 2002
                • 17996

                #52
                Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                Originally posted by ZB9
                dont want to turn this into a racial/political thread

                but ive been to more NBA games than I can count, and I dont hear people yelling out racial slurs. It would make no sense considering you would also be insulting most of the players on your own team.
                How many SUPER intense PLAYOFF games have you been to?
                Concrete evidence/videos please

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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #53
                  Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                  Originally posted by ZB9
                  because ive been to a crapload of Mavs games, and never heard anything close to a racial slur. I seriously doubt it could or would happen in Dallas.

                  it's quite a serious charge to say that a crowd of fans were yelling racial slurs (and very difficult to believe)
                  Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                  How many SUPER intense PLAYOFF games have you been to?
                  Bastard. You beat me too it.
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                  • 23
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                    • Sep 2002
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                    #54
                    Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                    This isnt about race at all and we wont go there, but to flat out say it didnt happen is quite astonishing. You might as well say both Karl and Billups are liars and all of these people (nuggets staff) got together to construct a conspiracy against Mavs fans.

                    That's what I'd consider crazy

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                    • ZB9
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                      • Nov 2004
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                      #55
                      Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                      Originally posted by 23
                      This isnt about race at all and we wont go there, but to flat out say it didnt happen is quite astonishing. You might as well say both Karl and Billups are liars and all of these people (nuggets staff) got together to construct a conspiracy against Mavs fans.

                      That's what I'd consider crazy
                      Karl is the only one that made accusations about racial slurs. That is what im talking about
                      Last edited by ZB9; 05-14-2009, 03:02 PM.

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                      • ZB9
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                        • Nov 2004
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                        #56
                        Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                        Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                        How many SUPER intense PLAYOFF games have you been to?
                        quite a few

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #57
                          Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                          That was a trick question since we are dealing with the Mavs.
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                          • DC
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 17996

                            #58
                            Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                            Originally posted by 23
                            This isnt about race at all and we wont go there, but to flat out say it didnt happen is quite astonishing. You might as well say both Karl and Billups are liars and all of these people (nuggets staff) got together to construct a conspiracy against Mavs fans.

                            That's what I'd consider crazy
                            Turn the cheek if you want, but that is exactly what all of this is about Dre. Come on man
                            Concrete evidence/videos please

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                            • ZB9
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 18387

                              #59
                              Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                              Originally posted by Pared
                              That was a trick question since we are dealing with the Mavs.
                              lol dont know what you mean man

                              the Mavs have been in some playoff games over the past 9 years

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                              • DC
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                                • Oct 2002
                                • 17996

                                #60
                                Re: Mavs vs Nuggets (Off Court Issues)

                                Zbo, so because YOU never experienced something at AAC, means that it just doesn't happen right? Put your logic hat on for ONE second and leave your Mavericks love at the door. Do you REALLY think that statement makes any sense?
                                Concrete evidence/videos please

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