The Allen Iverson Saga

[tehova]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

I love it!

This is what makes the internet great, im not even sure whats been debated at this point:

The Legacy of Allen Iverson, or whether he should start for a team that nobody else cares about or will watch, or if its a bad decision for a team nobody cares about to spend their money on a player that did not win a championship who will also not win a championship with them, or should he have come off the bench for a team that also was not goin to win a championship, or should he have been traded from a team that was also not goin to win a championship, and because he didnt win a championship he has destroyed all of our lives somehow and should have to pay back his salary in the nba and his tuition at Georgetown?

Why would anybody care?

Maybe i dont take my sports personal enouogh

[Muzyk23]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

http://twitter.com/alleniverson

AI has a nice story to share

[Jukeman]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

I love it!

This is what makes the internet great, im not even sure whats been debated at this point:

The Legacy of Allen Iverson, or whether he should start for a team that nobody else cares about or will watch, or if its a bad decision for a team nobody cares about to spend their money on a player that did not win a championship who will also not win a championship with them, or should he have come off the bench for a team that also was not goin to win a championship, or should he have been traded from a team that was also not goin to win a championship, and because he didnt win a championship he has destroyed all of our lives somehow and should have to pay back his salary in the nba and his tuition at Georgetown?

Why would anybody care?

Maybe i dont take my sports personal enouogh

Lmaooo

yo after reading just the 71st page, Im glad that I left this thread alone a looong time ago

carry on fellas....

[bubbachuck]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...1&sportCat=nba

Pretty good interview

[Muzyk23]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

Iverson says year was 'worst' of career

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<!-- end mod-article-title --><!-- begin story body --><!-- template inline -->Allen Iverson calls his one season in Detroit the "worst year of my career" and claims team officials and coach Michael Curry "lied" to him about coming off the bench instead of starting.


Iverson Q&A

Allen Iverson describes a miserable season with the Detroit Pistons in a candid and revealing interview with Page 2's Scoop Jackson. Story



"They told me, straight up, 'Allen, we would never disrespect you or your career like that,' by making me come off the bench," Iverson said in an interview with ESPN.com Page 2 columnist Scoop Jackson. "That's what they told me to my face. And after that, I never thought about it again. I just went back to playing. Then, they came to me saying that they felt it would be in the 'best interest of the team' if I came off of the bench behind Rip [Richard Hamilton].
"... After that, they told me that if I didn't come off the bench, the team was going to lie down on [not play with] me. ... When he told me that, that's when I felt that this was the worst career move I'd ever made and it was the worst year of my career."
Iverson said when he was traded from Denver to Detroit on Nov. 3, 2008, he was happy. "I talked to Mo [his uncle/manager Gary Moore]. We both felt like it was going to be a good situation."
It deteriorated when Iverson said he heard whispers the team wanted him to come off the bench. He had started 824 of 829 career games before last season.
"If you are a head coach and you feel strongly about this," Iverson told Jackson, "what would make you think that I want to be around these guys? Especially if you are telling me that they don't want to be around me like that?"
Iverson continued: "I'd never been on a team where a coach told me the guys gave up on me. You know what I mean? And I kept this under wraps the whole time ... because I didn't want to bad-mouth any of those guys.
"... I don't have [anything] bad to say about the organization, especially Joe [Dumars, the team president]. I never had a problem with Joe. He's a stand-up person that I have love for and respect. He was not part of any of the problems I had in Detroit.
"But for [the coach] to tell me these things and for him to go back on his word like that, it was the hardest and the roughest season I've ever had."
Iverson missed 16 games near the end of the season with a back injury, then came back for three games and was used off the bench by Curry. He missed the final seven games and the Pistons' playoff series with Cleveland.
Curry was fired by the Pistons on July 1 after one season.
The Pistons, reached by ESPN.com, declined comment. Curry could not be reached for comment.
Iverson signed a one-year, $3.1 million deal with Memphis in September. Memphis opens the season at home Oct. 28 against Detroit.
In the interview, Iverson told Jackson he's in a "lose-lose" situation in Memphis if the Grizzlies don't win, but he's not going to "allow that to happen."
"I gotta win games," he said. "Because if we lose games and I score a lot, they going to say I'm scorin' too much. If we lose games and I don't score a lot, they gonna say I'm not scoring enough. It's a lose-lose, unless we win. So all I can do is huddle up with these guys and try to win basketball games."
Iverson said he expects Memphis, which won 24 games last season and had the league's fifth-worst record, to be a playoff contender.
"I'm not going to be content and happy with [just making the playoffs]," he said. "And I want them to know that. Yeah, we [can] get into the playoffs -- God forbid somebody knocks us out -- then, yeah, it'll be a successful season for them, but not for me.
"I'm going to let guys know that I'm not here to just go to the playoffs. I believe in these dudes here. All I want them to do is trust me and trust that I'll do everything the right way and lead them to where we need to be."
Iverson also said he has nothing to prove -- to the media or to critical fans.
"There's nothing that sells good about Allen Iverson if it's something positive about Allen Iverson," he said with a laugh. "You know, you don't want to hear about how much money I donate to the Boys and Girls Clubs of America or to AIDS awareness or to give out scholarships, you don't want to hear about that.
"So when I said, 'It's personal,' I meant it's not personal to me as far as people saying what they've been saying about me, about me losing a step and this that and a third. It's personal on a level to where I can have fun again playing basketball. Not worry about, 'Oh, he should start or he shouldn't start,' and all of that nonsense. I'm talking about going to practice -- yeah, I said practice -- and have fun and come out of practice happy, go to games happy, leave the arena win or lose happy.
"Man, again, I'm 34 years old -- I don't want to be going to do what I love to do and it's hurting me. Like every time I show up to games I got an attitude all the time. I don't want that. So when I said, 'It's personal,' I mean as far as me wanting to have fun again and have that love for the game all over again."


HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH !!!
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[Muzyk23]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

so this Q and A http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...1&sportCat=nba

basically means that I was right and everybody who got down on AI was straight hating on the guy

besides, where are all of those who are first to get down on the guy when I post about his foundations or how he helps ppl??

****ing pathetic

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

No reason to label people just because their views on particular things/players aren't the same as yours.

[Muzyk23]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

No reason to label people just because their views on particular things/players aren't the same as yours.

yet the same ppl label me

.. read the article..maybe you will understand more..do you really think the Pistons fiasco was on him?? what makes you believe he isn't saying the truth if you do?

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

I read the article and they have nothing at all to do with what I said. I don't have a side in this fake *** East Coast/West Coast(in this case, AI Fans vs every one else)but this thread is one example of why this forum is becoming a joke. One person disagrees with the other and they're either labeled a groupie or a *****? Why? What the hell is the point of that?

And instead of posting that link to maybe give others a better chance to understand the ENTIRE(not just one part)story, it seems like you posted that just to prove to people who don't have the same opinion as yours, that they were wrong. And then others will come in and say "LMAO, forget them. They don't have a clue about Basketball" or "These people don't know what they're talking about and should just shut up" when all of that isn't even necessary at all, from EITHER side.

[Muzyk23]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

AGREED with everything you said

the point was - EVERYBODY was on him last season, but everything wasn't so black and white as some made it out to be.

As soon as Pistons or Curry say sth back I will post it too OR maybe I won't bump this thread anymore.

You are right.

Talking about last year (AI vs Pistons) is pointless right now.

The new season is ahead. Let's move on.

[P2K]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

AI still doesn't get it, yo.

**shakes head**

[candiasis]

Re: The Allen Iverson Saga

so this Q and A http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...1&sportCat=nba

basically means that I was right and everybody who got down on AI was straight hating on the guy

besides, where are all of those who are first to get down on the guy when I post about his foundations or how he helps ppl??

****ing pathetic

F**k yeah, this is why i have trememendous respect for the guy, he gets it (HOW can you see he doesn't get it p2k, how can you possibly spin that article negatively). The guy is a sick c**t, never loses heart. I was suspicious all season that the pistons gave up on ai, and i refused to believe it for a while, but looking at the early games (like where they won against a fully manned lakers team etc) they did give up on him, partly due to stuckey being forcefully inserted into the starting lineup, man curry had no clue, NO CLUE. Anyways this article confirmed what i refused professionals would do to ai, sleep on the guy, but they did. Funny how dumars said he was bringing the coach back, then a few months later fires him. I think dumars finally understood how incompetent that guy was man, he had no balls for the job, was pushed around by the old guard at the pistons *cough* tayshun and rip *cough*. Who can blame the guy parting ways with the pistons, they arrogantly thought they'd do better without him, and that got them swept first round by the cavs, the irony is delicious.

I think a few of those old guard pistons grossly overvalued their individual abilities, chauncey inflated their egos artificially with his excellent point guard play. So they never gave ai the chance he needed to be effective. Oh well. Fingers crossed they can pull it all together in memphis this season and get some wins. Hope ai has an enjoyable season, even if ends up being a losing one.