Iverson back where he belongs.

[P2K]

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Tanking the team isn't gonna help lure any big free agents come summer, and considering the plethora of talented free agents available and philly being a big city that could potentially score some big names, you'd much rather play for that than tanking for draft prospects. LOL @ true fans who want to tank the season altogether, myopic ****. Sure they'd have to try move a contract or two for the space to sign a big free agent, still straight up tanking is rarely the right way to go.

They can't just move a contract or two, you MENSA member. They are stuck where they are. The FO could move Emo-bert and STILL be in cap hell. So, there is no money to do anything.

Of course, if you were a Sixer fan...you would have known. Instead, you were talking out of your backside as usual.

Besides, the Sixers don't need to tank. They suck badly as is.

LOL @ tanking isn't the way to go. Tell that to the Spurs, Cavs and Celtics. Geniuses...I love 'em.

[JBH3]

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Poor attendance now affects the financial abilities of this team. If Iverson's $1.3 million deal brings in 5x that in revenue then it's beneficial to this team. Might not be the way P2K wants it to be, but it's needed nevertheless.

[slimm44]

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Eddie Jordan loves small ball. Which also doesn't help his crappy defensive philosophy.

They really don't have many shooters, so if they're gonna go small, they better RUN. And by run, I mean D'Antoni (sp) coaching the Suns to the WC Finals run. Has anybody ever run the fast break offense before, where the designed set is a fast break on every play? They may be the next really exciting offensive team that plays really bad defense. I'm so intrigued by this team, it's not even funny. I don't know what to expect.

[candiasis]

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They can't just move a contract or two, you MENSA member. They are stuck where they are. The FO could move Emo-bert and STILL be in cap hell. So, there is no money to do anything.

Of course, if you were a Sixer fan...you would have known. Instead, you were talking out of your backside as usual.

Besides, the Sixers don't need to tank. They suck badly as is.

LOL @ tanking isn't the way to go. Tell that to the Spurs, Cavs and Celtics. Geniuses...I love 'em.

Any contract can be moved, **** off with the mensa insult. Yeah tankign has sure done the knicks and almost every other bottom dweller team well year in year out, cause they all rebuilt so well after drafting? Please. Maybe if philly did semi ok this season, they might actually be able to move a big contract since winning is what other teams look at when assessing trades. But you're a true fan right, ready to give away a season willy nilly like it's nothing.

LOL @ how a 1 year non guaranteed veterans minimum to replace an injured starter is going to set the philly franchise back 5 years. Shock and horror they might actually win a few more games. This seems less about basketball with soem people and more about personal vendettas against the guy. Philly havent won a playoff series since they originally got rid of AI, and maybe is he stayed they wouldn't have hamstrung themselves with the contract they gave Brand. But whatever.

[P2K]

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Poor attendance now affects the financial abilities of this team. If Iverson's $1.3 million deal brings in 5x that in revenue then it's beneficial to this team. Might not be the way P2K wants it to be, but it's needed nevertheless.

They're owned by Comcast. Sixers aren't hurting for money.

So they get revenue from jersey sales and like...2 to 3 weeks of home games. Because the intrigue will end fast because they suck. After that...who knows. They already made back his salary, so there goes that.

But when it all comes down to it...it's still a waste. Like cleaning up a pool of blood with a cotton ball. But they sure are sucking up the AI lemmings. Good for them, I guess. The franchise refuses to see the big picture. Fine. Then they will feel the repercussions of their stoogery when slip further out of people's minds by being the definition of mediocrity.

But I will still be there to rep the reality of the situation, whether the Sixers or JBH3 & Co. like it or not.

[P2K]

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Any contract can be moved, **** off with the mensa insult. Yeah tankign has sure done the knicks and almost every other bottom dweller team well year in year out, cause they all rebuilt so well after drafting? Please. Maybe if philly did semi ok this season, they might actually be able to move a big contract since winning is what other teams look at when assessing trades. But you're a true fan right, ready to give away a season willy nilly like it's nothing.

LOL @ how a 1 year non guaranteed veterans minimum to replace an injured starter is going to set the philly franchise back 5 years. Shock and horror they might actually win a few more games. This seems less about basketball with soem people and more about personal vendettas against the guy. Philly havent won a playoff series since they originally got rid of AI, and maybe is he stayed they wouldn't have hamstrung themselves with the contract they gave Brand. But whatever.

Trades are made in the NBA mostly to move contracts. That's all the league is now. As for tanking...another thing the league has forced teams to do in order to become good. Only two ways to succeed in the NBA:

1.) Tank

or

2.) Keep your team close to the minimum in cap space the league allows...which is another form of tanking.

You may refuse to accept it, but that is how it is done. Boston. San Antonio. Cleveland. Orlando. Nuggets. All built around top draft picks or what was done with top draft picks. Any other way is just making it much harder on yourself. But I'm just a silly die hard fan that knows a lost cause of a season when he sees it. How dare I think like that? lol

The fading superstar is not the problem. But because the knuckleheads in the front office decided to drag him back here, he becomes part of the problem. Sorry, guy. The real problem is the mindset of the FO. I know I've made this known many times. It's not my fault that your personal agenda against people not bowing to Iverson (specifically me) is clouding your thinking immensely.

And if you didn't know already, Allen was not rid off. I'm sure the franchise weren't hurt to see him go because of his antics, but AI was traded because he wanted out in the worse way. Sixers happily obliged.

[P2K]

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They really don't have many shooters, so if they're gonna go small, they better RUN. And by run, I mean D'Antoni (sp) coaching the Suns to the WC Finals run. Has anybody ever run the fast break offense before, where the designed set is a fast break on every play? They may be the next really exciting offensive team that plays really bad defense. I'm so intrigued by this team, it's not even funny. I don't know what to expect.

I expect more losses lol. Jordan won't allow a fast break offense.

[slimm44]

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I expect more losses lol. Jordan won't allow a fast break offense.

That's too bad. They have quite a few youngsters and athletes on their team. Even some of their bigs are young and at least somewhat mobile. When you are young, athletic, can't shoot, and don't play very good defense, the best thing to do is run. You take advantage of your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. It's also a quick way to energize your arena and fans.

[candiasis]

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And if you didn't know already, Allen was not rid off. I'm sure the franchise weren't hurt to see him go because of his antics, but AI was traded because he wanted out in the worse way. Sixers happily obliged.

No he said improve the roster or trade me, he didn't exactly want to leave and he was dissapointed when they used this one vague threat made out of frustration to boot him out the door as quick as possible. But whatever.

There are more ways teams can improve than tanking, you simplify things way too much. Celts fluked two good free agents, the draft did them no good, cavs got lebron yeah and spurs got duncan sure, but a lot of championship teams were built around free agency and bringing in the right crew, not just going after that superstar in the draft.

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The name calling and other rules of respect still stand in this new thread


FYI

[P2K]

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No he said improve the roster or trade me, he didn't exactly want to leave and he was dissapointed when they used this one vague threat made out of frustration to boot him out the door as quick as possible. But whatever.

And AI knew King couldn't improve the roster. The team was in cap hell. He knew what was going on. He knew what he was trying to do when he skipped out on Fan Appreciation night. Whether he stayed away or the team told him to just stay home, he made sure the final outcome catered to him.

There are more ways teams can improve than tanking, you simplify things way too much. Celts fluked two good free agents, the draft did them no good, cavs got lebron yeah and spurs got duncan sure, but a lot of championship teams were built around free agency and bringing in the right crew, not just going after that superstar in the draft.

The draft did the Celtics no good?! They used the 5th pick to get Garnett from Minnesota! Geez...

Anyway, since you swear there are more ways teams can become championship teams other than tanking in today's NBA, let's see your list of instructions. This ought to be enlightening since damn near all champions since '80 were built around a drafted superstar or use of a high draft pick.

[slimm44]

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And AI knew King couldn't improve the roster. The team was in cap hell. He knew what was going on. He knew what he was trying to do when he skipped out on Fan Appreciation night. Whether he stayed away or the team told him to just stay home, he made sure the final outcome catered to him.




The draft did the Celtics no good?! They used the 5th pick to get Garnett from Minnesota! Geez...

Anyway, since you swear there are more ways teams can become championship teams other than tanking in today's NBA, let's see your list of instructions. This ought to be enlightening since damn near all champions since '80 were built around a drafted superstar or use of a high draft pick.

Good points. I would like to someone to argue for a team that has been built more around good free agent signings than around drafting good players/using your draft picks as trade incentives and has won something, mainly because I can't think of one. Good picks in the draft give quality talent at the fraction of the price of a veteran you get in free agency. You also get the chance to teach good playing habits without having to unteach bad habits learned from other players on other teams.

Without doing research, I would say that the teams who are in dire straights with their cap room tried to do too much in free agency, possibly because of bad draft picks and stupid trades on draft day. Anybody who wants to prove this one way or another is welcome. I'm too lazy to do the research.

[DustinT]

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The draft did the Celtics no good?! They used the 5th pick to get Garnett from Minnesota! Geez...

Actually they used that pick to get Ray Allen from Seattle.

[MaddenMan]

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I liked Iverson when he played for the Nuggets, however he's nowhere near the player Billups is in that he's not a leader and he doesn't make the players around him better. Not as good a defender either.

At any rate I liked the guy and I'm glad he's back home in Philly and can retire there, too bad no rings tho.

[P2K]

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Actually they used that pick to get Ray Allen from Seattle.

My bad. You are absolutely correct. That's how Seattle got Jeff Green. My bad. Thanks.

Either way, Boston used a top 5 pick to help create a title-winning team.