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  • Rawdeal28
    Swiitch U? lol
    • Oct 2007
    • 7407

    #46
    Re: Dwight Howard

    Originally posted by P2K
    Which, again, isn't saying much since there damn near aren't any centers in the league. Really makes you appreciate the league back in the early '90s when there was The Dream, Robinson, Ewing with young pups in Shaq, 'Zo and Mutombo.




    But the Lakers shown the Dwight isn't good at backing down his man and throwing it to the open man. And when he backed down to take a shot, he sucked. Pau Gasol's soft *** could even guard him.

    I'd take Howard on my team without hesitation, but until he can figure out an adequate post game, he will never be the #1 option and maybe not even #2. He's like a super Mutombo.
    LMAO. and its also funny cuz its not true.
    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
    Well, you obviously just dont like him as a player, which is fine, you cant really argue against that...but ill say this and that will be it...

    You can play the take away game with anyone in the league...Take away Devin Harris or Tony Parkers speed, will their "basketball moves" make them just as effective? Take away Shaqs stregth, he still the most dominant big man ever? We can do "what ifs" all day. These arent some kind of special abilities they obtained like an RPG, its their god given talent....thats what they use to be effective...And im not saying he doesnt need to sure up his game alot, but hes not as bad as some are claiming.

    And you need to share all this in depth Wilt footage with us.....not just with us, the NBA as a matter of fact..
    thats right on point sir. i agree.
    "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
    Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
    I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
    yea but will they take psn cards
    Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

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    • KG
      Welcome Back
      • Sep 2005
      • 17583

      #47
      Re: Dwight Howard

      I love the "what if" game.
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      • Lauxman
        Banned
        • Dec 2008
        • 219

        #48
        Re: Dwight Howard

        I wouldn't want anyone else as Center on the Magic. And if you have been watching, Howard has been improving his post moves and even throwing in a surprise jumper here and there. He is getting better against the other good centers in the NBA.

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        • P2K
          Banned
          • Aug 2006
          • 8845

          #49
          Re: Dwight Howard

          Originally posted by Rawdeal28
          LMAO. and its also funny cuz its not true.
          We agree to disagree

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          • Rawdeal28
            Swiitch U? lol
            • Oct 2007
            • 7407

            #50
            Re: Dwight Howard

            Originally posted by P2K
            We agree to disagree
            cool.
            "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
            Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
            I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
            yea but will they take psn cards
            Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

            lol

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            • Brankles
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 5113

              #51
              Re: Dwight Howard

              Originally posted by Dice
              The one huge flaw in Dwight's game is his passing out of the double team OR reading the defense.

              The Magic knows that when he gets the ball in the post, 9 times out of 10 he's going to get an extra defender. So when and how that extra defender comes, Howard still cannot make the right pass or decision. And most of the time, his passes out of the double team results in a turnover. As evident of his 1.7/3.4 assist-to-turnover ratio. And also remember, he's second in the league in turnovers.

              This was Shaq's problem when he first got into the league. Then after a few years, he learned to make simple passes out of the double team. But it wasn't until he learned the triangle offense from Phil Jackson that he started to read the defense when the double teams started to come.

              So I would probably conclude that his mishandling of the rock might be the cause of his limited touches.
              This is 100% accurate. It's not that Dwight can't score in the post, it's that when he gets doubled it usually doesn't end well.

              Shaq was one of the best passing big men in the league when he played. He kept the ball up high, Dwight always bring the ball down. Shaq recognized double teams and could pass out of them, Dwight routinely has the ball poked away from behind or takes too long to pass. Dwight's hands aren't nearly as good as Shaq's. Dwight's post moves are not as powerful, don't have as much touch, and take longer to establish his position and finish, which allows double teams to come and defenses to rotate.

              If Dwight can get in position where he catches, recognizes the D, and goes up strong in 2-3 seconds, he will become a much better player on offense. He is definitely improving, and his efficiency is going up, but he has a ways to go. Dwight has the work ethic and the ability where he can eventually become a reliable player in the post, but right now the Magic might be better off slowly giving him more touches throughout the season instead of re-working their offense around him. Usually a team builds their offense around guys that can create for themselves and others, and Dwight is a finishing-type of player instead of a "sit and watch him make plays" type.

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              • Rawdeal28
                Swiitch U? lol
                • Oct 2007
                • 7407

                #52
                Re: Dwight Howard

                Originally posted by Brankles
                This is 100% accurate. It's not that Dwight can't score in the post, it's that when he gets doubled it usually doesn't end well.

                Shaq was one of the best passing big men in the league when he played. He kept the ball up high, Dwight always bring the ball down. Shaq recognized double teams and could pass out of them, Dwight routinely has the ball poked away from behind or takes too long to pass. Dwight's hands aren't nearly as good as Shaq's. Dwight's post moves are not as powerful, don't have as much touch, and take longer to establish his position and finish, which allows double teams to come and defenses to rotate.

                If Dwight can get in position where he catches, recognizes the D, and goes up strong in 2-3 seconds, he will become a much better player on offense. He is definitely improving, and his efficiency is going up, but he has a ways to go. Dwight has the work ethic and the ability where he can eventually become a reliable player in the post, but right now the Magic might be better off slowly giving him more touches throughout the season instead of re-working their offense around him. Usually a team builds their offense around guys that can create for themselves and others, and Dwight is a finishing-type of player instead of a "sit and watch him make plays" type.
                good post. i agree
                "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
                Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
                I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
                yea but will they take psn cards
                Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

                lol

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                • youvalss
                  ******
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 16601

                  #53
                  Re: Dwight Howard

                  I've seen several games where Howard went one-on-one in the post and couldn't score. Actually he could hardly back down his man, and that made him trying his running hook shot that he MISSES so well.
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                  • Brankles
                    Banned
                    • May 2003
                    • 5113

                    #54
                    Re: Dwight Howard

                    Originally posted by youvalss
                    I've seen several games where Howard went one-on-one in the post and couldn't score. Actually he could hardly back down his man, and that made him trying his running hook shot that he MISSES so well.
                    I know what you mean, but if you've seen him recently he's much-improved in his one-on-one scoring. That running hook is dropping and he's starting to hit little jumpers, too. Thing is, he hardly ever sees only one defender in the post.

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                    • Vast
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 4015

                      #55
                      Re: Dwight Howard

                      Makes me wonder what Ewing is doing there. Huge Ewing fan growing up, but i'm not sure what he can teach Dwight.
                      Ewings game was fadeaways, jumpshots and running hooks. Not much post pizzaz.
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                      • youvalss
                        ******
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 16601

                        #56
                        Re: Dwight Howard

                        Originally posted by Vast
                        Makes me wonder what Ewing is doing there. Huge Ewing fan growing up, but i'm not sure what he can teach Dwight.
                        Ewings game was fadeaways, jumpshots and running hooks. Not much post pizzaz.
                        That's what I've been saying the past 2 seasons. And I think Howard, in his 6th season, still doesn't know what kind of centre he is. I hope he'll find out soon...
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                        • TheMatrix31
                          RF
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52915

                          #57
                          Re: Dwight Howard

                          I always wondered what would happen if I could somehow combine Amare's offensive game with Dwight's defense and rebounding.

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                          • Jonesy
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 5382

                            #58
                            Re: Dwight Howard

                            Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                            I always wondered what would happen if I could somehow combine Amare's offensive game with Dwight's defense and rebounding.
                            David Robinson happens.

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                            • Dice
                              Sitting by the door
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6627

                              #59
                              Re: Dwight Howard

                              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                              I always wondered what would happen if I could somehow combine Amare's offensive game with Dwight's defense and rebounding.
                              You'd have the league MVP.
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                              • KG
                                Welcome Back
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 17583

                                #60
                                Re: Dwight Howard

                                Originally posted by youvalss
                                That's what I've been saying the past 2 seasons. And I think Howard, in his 6th season, still doesn't know what kind of centre he is. I hope he'll find out soon...
                                He's only 24. When Ewing came into the league he was raw offensively too and he was 23. Big guys mature at different rates.
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