2010 NBA Draft Thread.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The NFL is 16 games. The NBA is 82 games.

Tanking in the NFL is also much more obvious. You can't just bench star players in the NFL at the rate you can in the NBA.

In the NBA a star player who has a sore shoulder can sit out the last 10 games and severely hamper his team's chance of winning those games. You'd have to bench a teams 3-5 best players in the NFL to do that and do it over the last 2-3 weeks.



Durant to DC makes more sense than any of the other free agent nonsense being talked about this year.

Just like the so called "Melo will be coming back home next year" nonsense that folks around this area were tossing around even though he's not from here? Other than the hometown factor, it really doesn't.

[Cebby]

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You do know that Carmelo Anthony is a local boy also? He will be a free agent the same year as Durant (Summer 2011). I wouldn't mind either of those guys playing with John Wall...

Durant comes to DC and Maryland all the time in the summer. That's why I think he'll come to DC.

Plus we have Leonsis.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I agree that its pretty hard to find someone to take that contract but if the Wizards were willing to trade the #1 pick for the #3 pick and Harris then the Nets should jump at the chance to get Wall plus get rid of Harris' contract, thats what i meant.

But i agree that its going to be really hard to get rid of that contract and now it appears there is no reason to since they'll need him to be their PG.

And i also agree about Durant, my feelings are the same because it seems everything he's indicated is that he'll be back in OKC.

The Wizards originally drafted Harris so I doubt they would even take him back, especially with that contract and while they're still on the hook with Gil's contract.

PG Position is fine for us. PF...not so much. That NEEDS to be addressed ASAP otherwise we're stuck with the same "Yi is gonna blossom into a great player someday" mess we heard from Kiki all last year and I have to go into one more year with him as my starting 4.....

[ProfessaPackMan]

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hey buddy... when did you become the entire Nets fanbase? As hard as this is for you to comprehend, it's not all about you.

Never said I was my friend. I'm just going by what YOU said in that we're "drowning in our tears".

[ProfessaPackMan]

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You do know that Carmelo Anthony is a local boy also? He will be a free agent the same year as Durant (Summer 2011). I wouldn't mind either of those guys playing with John Wall...

Melo is from Baltimore and last I checked, we(DC Natives)don't count them as "Locals" just like they don't count us as "locals" and just like we don't claim Iverson as a "Local".

[ehh]

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(Slightly off-topic)

I was too young to care/remember, but since we have some old heads in here.. I was looking back at the 1993 NBA Draft. Why did Orlando take Chris Webber with the first overall pick in the draft, then trade him and THREE first round picks for the 3rd pick in the draft, Penny Hardaway?

Not sure if you worded that correctly but the Magic GOT three first round picks, they didn't trade them away. People weren't sure if Webber and Shaq would mesh in a front court together and if you're getting a top PG prospect and three first round picks then it's impossible to turn it down given Orlando's situation at the time.

Pack, I know you wanted Wall but like I said back in the beginning of this thread I think you may be best suited with Cousins. For the Nets sake though I hope they don't take Favors. He doesn't fit in what the pieces y'all have and I think he'll be a bust anyway.

As for Durant, not sure why he'd leave OKC when there's a good chance Westbrook will be a better PG than Wall when it's all said and done.

[TMagic]

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I dunno.. 4 times? The team with the worst record still has better odds of getting the 1st pick than the next worst team and so on. 75% chance of not getting it, yeah, but the next team also has an 80% chance of not getting it. Not saying it's astronomically unheard of, but I would've guessed more than 4 times.

I see what you are getting at. But you just have to change the way you look at it.

Each team is going up against ALL THE OTHER TEAMS TOGETHER. Not one on one. It's not the #1 team's odds vs. just the #2 team's odds. Then the #1 team's odds vs. the #3 team's odds. In that case, the #1 team would have the edge and should come out on top. But that's not the case. It's the #1 team's odds vs. the #2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, odds combined.

Think as if you were to have a chance to pick out of 100 balls. There are 25 red balls (the #1 team). There are 75 green balls (Everybody else in the lottery). Which color would you choose to be picked out of the lot?

That's why it's a little inaccurate to assume that just because the team has the best odds in the draft, they will more than likely get the first pick in the draft.

It has panned out just like that as well if you look at the results from the last eight years. 2 out of the 8 teams that had the best shot of getting the #1 pick got it. That's 25%, which is precisely the same odds that the worse team in the draft has.

Which makes sense. You should expect that out of every 4 years, only 1 team is going to get the top pick. That gives you that 25% chance. If we were to extrapolate that, we would expect the worse team in the league to get the #1 pick only four times in 16 years!

That should definitely put things in perspective. It did for me at least. lol

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Cousins is tricky to me because it all depends on what type of team we'll become. If it's a Half Court Offense type, then he'd be a good fit but if we're going back to the Byron Scott/J. Kidd Days then I'm not sure how'd he fit since he possibly might be sacrificing one end of the floor(probably Defense since I don't think he'd get back quick)Everything I've read about Favors suggests he'd be a project that's a few years away from helping this team out significantly but that someone like either Cousins or even Monroe would be a nice compliment to Brook, which is what we need.

But like I've said, I've never been too big on Wall like everyone else(wanted to keep Devin and it looks like that will happen)but I've just always said that I wouldn't be mad/upset if we were to take him because if you have a Top 4 pick then you take BPA and don't draft for "needs".

[JerseySuave4]

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Never said I was my friend. I'm just going by what YOU said in that we're "drowning in our tears".

guess you didnt read the article i posted from the Star Ledger with all of those comments from Nets fans because they seem to support my statement.

Maybe you do get the same sense for how much of a disappointment is for Nets fans since you're in Maryland and not NJ

[phenom1990]

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philly is in a tough spot at #2. im not sure if they will get turner or not.

they dont need a big with brand, dalembert, and with projects of young, speights and smith.

if they get turner what will they do? he doesnt have a position yet though you can play him 1-3. holiday is still a combo guard despite being competent at point. iggy's jumpshot is still shaky so you cant pencil him at the 2.

do you guys think philly can roll with an interchangeable backcourt?

they can go for instance...

PG - holiday/turner/iggy (in case of injury break glass)
SG - turner/iggy/holiday
SF - iggy/turner

The Sixers could definitely benefit from a legit big with a post game and can rebound. Dalembert is a free agent after the 10-11 season and nobody is dying to re-sign him, Brand is clearly a shell of himself especially defensively. The other thing I feel is that the Sixers either need to trade the 2nd pick or trade Iguodala because I can't see a Holiday/Turner/Iguodala combo working. They wouldn't be able to get proper court spacing to allow each other to drive because none of them are great shooters. I see Iguodala as a versatile 3 but I don't think of him as 2. Holiday to me is clearly 1 and not really a 2 and Evan Turner seems like he could play the 1,2 or 3. Basically, I see the 3 of them all doing similar things with similar weaknesses.

[jdr4693]

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Melo is from Baltimore and last I checked, we(DC Natives)don't count them as "Locals" just like they don't count us as "locals" and just like we don't claim Iverson as a "Local".

Last time I checked, Baltimore natives root for the Wizards because they have no basketball team. Most of my friends who live in Blatimore root for the Wiz/Bullets.

[ehh]

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Cousins is tricky to me because it all depends on what type of team we'll become. If it's a Half Court Offense type, then he'd be a good fit but if we're going back to the Byron Scott/J. Kidd Days then I'm not sure how'd he fit since he possibly might be sacrificing one end of the floor(probably Defense since I don't think he'd get back quick)Everything I've read about Favors suggests he'd be a project that's a few years away from helping this team out significantly but that someone like either Cousins or even Monroe would be a nice compliment to Brook, which is what we need.
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I don't know, this is where I think the book on Cousins is unfair. He ran the floor well at UK (and they pushed the tempo plenty) and he got his *** back on D when he wasn't stopping to yell at Calipari or make cell phone gestures with his hand to the Miss State student section.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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guess you didnt read the article i posted from the Star Ledger with all of those comments from Nets fans because they seem to support my statement.

Maybe you do get the same sense for how much of a disappointment is for Nets fans since you're in Maryland and not NJ

Can I post some comments from NetsDaily to support my statement as well? LOL

Bottom line is we'll be going in circles all day about basically nothing, which I don't know about you but...it seems kinda boring and dumb lol.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Last time I checked, Baltimore natives root for the Wizards because they have no basketball team. Most of my friends who live in Blatimore root for the Wiz/Bullets.

Has nothing to do with rooting for a team

Melo is from BALTIMORE. NOT DC. So I can't see how you can call him a "Local" when he's not from here. See what I'm saying? THAT'S what I meant by him not being a DC Native/Local. WE(DC Folks)don't claim them(Baltimore Folks)and they don't claim us.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I don't know, this is where I think the book on Cousins is unfair. He ran the floor well at UK (and they pushed the tempo plenty) and he got his *** back on D when he wasn't stopping to yell at Calipari or make cell phone gestures with his hand to the Miss State student section.

Oh ok. Like I said I haven't seen too much of him or UK for that matter so take my opinion on them FWIW, which is probably worth little LOL. I guess it depends on if he's willing to grow up(like PP said)and if the right Coach can help him do that.