Parker to Knicks Rumor

[Kully]

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The Knicks FO must really want Parker to start all these rumours.

[nuckles2k2]

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The Knicks FO must really want Parker to start all these rumours.

I don't see how that would affect San Antonio tho...they're a bunch of grown men running an organization. I don't think an article in a newspaper all the way on the east coast is going to determine whether or not they make a move with Parker, so what good would it do the Knicks front office to make up any rumors at all?

It's not like if there are 5 articles in the Daily News or Newsday about this topic that suddenly Buford and Pops are gonna say "..you know what?????? how about we trade Tony to those crazy rascals in NYC"

If it honestly works that way....just making up a rumor to get what you want...then ****....why not say that you got word from an inside source that Phil Jackson wants to come back to coach the team he once played for, and LeBron said that he's on board if Phil is.

That's a rumor worthwhile if you "really want" something, no?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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LOL Been a strange day in the NY/NJ Area today as far as NBA Rumors go.

[BlueNGold]

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I can't see either Amare or JJ wanting to deal with the insane NY media. I don't think either will end up a Knick.

I think Amare would for sure. He seems like he wants to get the spotlight.

Joe on the other hand, I agree with.

[Hassan Darkside]

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I don't see how that would affect San Antonio tho...they're a bunch of grown men running an organization. I don't think an article in a newspaper all the way on the east coast is going to determine whether or not they make a move with Parker, so what good would it do the Knicks front office to make up any rumors at all?

It's not like if there are 5 articles in the Daily News or Newsday about this topic that suddenly Buford and Pops are gonna say "..you know what?????? how about we trade Tony to those crazy rascals in NYC"

If it honestly works that way....just making up a rumor to get what you want...then ****....why not say that you got word from an inside source that Phil Jackson wants to come back to coach the team he once played for, and LeBron said that he's on board if Phil is.

That's a rumor worthwhile if you "really want" something, no?

The Knicks front office didn't make up the rumor at all. There's no source in the article, it's just Alan Hahn's speculation based on Parker's availability.

[nuckles2k2]

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The Knicks front office didn't make up the rumor at all. There's no source in the article, it's just Alan Hahn's speculation based on Parker's availability.

Exactly, everything involving the Knicks right now (and this whole summer of free agency in general) is speculation. So I don't get why folks are saying the Knicks front office is starting rumors to have a reporter write up an article in a newspaper...to entice another team to trade a player?

I'd rather see people just call it what it is...speculation...as opposed to the same ol' "man, those Knicks must be mighty desperate because you know....they're the Knicks" spiel.

[Kully]

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But the Knicks are mighty desperate

You're taking too much offense to some off the cuff remark. It meant nothing.

[nuckles2k2]

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Maybe I am taking too much offense to a random comment, I guess it's just frustrating to see your team and city take a beating time and time again.

Back when the Knicks were saddled with Isiah Thomas and all of those huge contracts that he acquired (Jerome James, Jeffries, Q-rich, Curry, Crawford, Marbury, etc.) all you heard from the media and pundits was "man...you see LeBron wearing that Yankees hat and you see his Yankees sneakers? You know he listed NYC as his favorite city on the planet right? I bet he would love to play in NYC if he could."

Fast forward a couple of years to the present day and it's like "the Knicks have a quality coach, a quality GM, one of the best shooters in the league under 25 years old, Wilson Chandler, and a hot commodity in David Lee that's sure to attract some attention from teams looking for a sign-and-trade deal.... but SURLEY LeBorn will sign elsewhere...that franchise is a joke."

So when there was no foreseeable way for us to get him....surely he would have wanted to play here; now that we've positioned ourself for it to be a possibility...no way he wants to play here.

Multiply that by about 100 and then maybe you can see why I'd call someone out when they're saying that a team's front office is influencing what a reporter writes to somehow...someway....entice another team to make a move, whether it was off the cuff or not. It's nothing personal, I just find it ridiculous.

[Kully]

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The NY media is the reason why the Knicks are taken a beating now. Time and time again they state that *insert player* will go to the Knicks, that Bron will join and bring the top 5 players with him.

When his free agency started, they took out full page ads calling for James to come over. About every media outlet made a pitch to James to come over to the Knicks because its his best chance to win. Nevermind the fact that the Knicks haven't been relevant for about 10 years now.

That's why I scoff at every Knicks rumour. CP3 for Eddy Curry's belly and a couple of cheeseburgers. Tony Parker for David Lee (nevermind the fact that the Spurs have no need for him and already have a great rebounder/worker in Blair for 1/100th the price). They are willing to take in Lee for 10+ million a year and give up their established PG for a still growing backup.

You guys finally relieved yourselves of Isiah's stench, and now that there is some glimmer of hope for NY, all of a sudden everyone wants to go there? Okay.

If you want to blame someone for the Knicks getting hammered, blame the NY media. Nothing personal, but that's what I find ridiculous.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The NY media is the reason why the Knicks are taken a beating now. Time and time again they state that *insert player* will go to the Knicks, that Bron will join and bring the top 5 players with him.

When his free agency started, they took out full page ads calling for James to come over. About every media outlet made a pitch to James to come over to the Knicks because its his best chance to win. Nevermind the fact that the Knicks haven't been relevant for about 10 years now.

That's why I scoff at every Knicks rumour. CP3 for Eddy Curry's belly and a couple of cheeseburgers. Tony Parker for David Lee (nevermind the fact that the Spurs have no need for him and already have a great rebounder/worker in Blair for 1/100th the price). They are willing to take in Lee for 10+ million a year and give up their established PG for a still growing backup.

You guys finally relieved yourselves of Isiah's stench, and now that there is some glimmer of hope for NY, all of a sudden everyone wants to go there? Okay.

If you want to blame someone for the Knicks getting hammered, blame the NY media. Nothing personal, but that's what I find ridiculous.

Chuuuuch.

[PostNPivot]

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Yeah I'm not getting where this is coming from. Kind of a bizarre rumor.

When Knicks fans are in a perpetual state of disappointment they create, and even feed off of wild trade rumors about how their team will trade for top talent with their roster. Who could blame them though? They probably won't sign any real talent worth a max contract, or even make a blockbuster trade.

This is a pipe dream for the Knicks. SA doesn't want their garbage for Parker unless they get a top pick (They don't even have a 1st rounder!), or young talent.

Any other trade has to put them over the top.

[nuckles2k2]

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So NY reporters talking about different scenarios to improve an NY team...in an NY newspaper is different from any other team in what way?

Miami has that website about keeping D-Wade, Chi and Cleveland have launched full blown "lets get/keep LeBron James" campaigns, and because the Knicks take out a full page add in a newspaper in it's own city...not every city across the country...but in the city where the team plays...that's somehow...not the right thing to do?

So we're better off not doing things similar to the other two teams vying for his services? Ok.

And while I agree that this team hasn't been relevant for the past decade, I'll also acknowledge Donnie Walsh pulling of what was considered the impossible, and freeing the team from it's financial woes and setting us up for a future that is already guaranteed to be brighter than where Isiah Thomas was taking the team (regardless of whether or not we get James.) And Dolan's willingness to spend money, at least now we have Walsh spending that cash and not someone who's going to give Jared Jeffries and Jerome James 6+ mil a year.

I'll also ignore the fact that a small market team like the Hornets might take a look at Darren Collinson, who put up RIDICULOUS numbers for an extended period of time in the absence of CP3, and decide to try to grab a contract that expires next year as opposed to after the '12/'13 season and take that 11+ mil and grab a few more players, or a player that wouldn't force Collinson to the bench. I dunno, I guess these things don't happen at all in the world of sports... (I guess I'm gonna have to throw a disclaimer out there that: I AM NOT SAYING THIS WILL HAPPEN, JUST THAT THE TEAM MIGHT CONSIDER THIS IF THEY WERE...YOU KNOW...WEIGHING ALL THEIR OPTIONS LIKE PROFESSIONAL TEAMS TEND TO DO

I just don't see why NYC would be such a bad destination when we have a proven GM and a quality head coach who's actually had some interaction with a few of the available players in the FIBA and Olympic games. The only other team that beats us in the proven coaching department is Miami if Pat comes back to coach the team. Would players not look at that? LeBron just got done with a first time head coach who was on the staff of a Championship winning team as a defensive coach, is he going to willingly jump back into that situation not knowing what he's going to get from this man as a head coach? Cleveland doesn't have a coach at this point, and they're extending a contract to a college coach, albeit one who's good as hell, but still another unproven coach in the NBA. Then he has the possibility of Riley coming back or D'Antoni. One is a hall of famer and he's experienced the other on a coaching staff before.

But I digress, how is NY's media telling it's audience that it want's LeBron, badly, any different from Miami launching a whole website to keep Wade or Chicago putting up billboards for LeBron?

Is it because we once had Isiah, who was a bad Gm....is it because it's New York? What is it? When you weigh full page ads in a newspaper & speculations vs billboards & speculations....one is slightly more sensationalized, so I dunno if you were just using the full page ad as an example or what...but that's not really all that much compared to a website and billboards. At least I don't think it is.

Just trying to be objective....yes I am a Knicks fan, but I'm not saying we're going to land 'Bron; I just don't understand how people act like this team has nothing going for it.

[Hassan Darkside]

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The NY media is the reason why the Knicks are taken a beating now. Time and time again they state that *insert player* will go to the Knicks, that Bron will join and bring the top 5 players with him.

When his free agency started, they took out full page ads calling for James to come over. About every media outlet made a pitch to James to come over to the Knicks because its his best chance to win. Nevermind the fact that the Knicks haven't been relevant for about 10 years now.

That's why I scoff at every Knicks rumour. CP3 for Eddy Curry's belly and a couple of cheeseburgers. Tony Parker for David Lee (nevermind the fact that the Spurs have no need for him and already have a great rebounder/worker in Blair for 1/100th the price). They are willing to take in Lee for 10+ million a year and give up their established PG for a still growing backup.

You guys finally relieved yourselves of Isiah's stench, and now that there is some glimmer of hope for NY, all of a sudden everyone wants to go there? Okay.

If you want to blame someone for the Knicks getting hammered, blame the NY media. Nothing personal, but that's what I find ridiculous.

You could say the same thing about Chicago. As nuckles said, every team has launched some sort of campaign to land LeBron. Chicago says that they put the best team out there if LeBron wants to win, despite the fact that Rose is just as ball dominant as LeBron and can't shoot. Also contrary to the fact that anytime LeBron's been successful, he's had a PG that didn't need the ball much and could spot up and shoot, even going back to high school. And nevermind the fact that they tossed away their two best perimeter scorers (and yes, one put them in position to get LeBron).

Nobody even said anything about Chicago until about two days after LeBron was eliminated. I think when Jamal Mashburn was the first guy I heard say something about it on espn, it was mentioned in a Bill Simmons column, and then it grew wings and flew. And the Knicks being irrelevant the past decade doesn't mean anything unless we're returning the same group of losers, but seeing as how this team changes more often than LeBron changes his jumpshot, he probably will ignore that fact.

Chicago has it's fair of strange rumors too. That they can acquire Bosh in a S&T for an overpaid Deng and prospect in Taj Gibson. That they can add one more shooter and they'll be set, etc. Right now you can debate the value of Eddy Curry's contract vs the value of Luol Deng. And it's much more probable for David Lee to land an asset than it is Luol Deng or Kirk Hinrich.

Despite not paying their best perimeter scorer and trading away their next best, they still made the playoffs as an 8 seed. Is that really that important? Is it because they were that good minus Salmons and Gordon or because the East was that bad and Toronto rolled over in the end?

The same can be made for any team in the Lebron sweepstakes. NJ talkin gabout getting Chris Paul or something with the 3rd pick. Cleveland shaking up their front office and coaching staff and even team. The Clippers talking about... It's the offseason. Rumors abound. Be your own filter.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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NJ isn't talking about getting CP3 because we KNOW it ain't gonna happen. Sam Smith is the one playing "Make up a trade out your ***" like he usually does.

I do find it funny(not in a bad way)that two teams who haven't really been relevant in a while(well one of them has at least ) have gotten more attention than just about any team NOT playing in the Finals.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Right now you can debate the value of Eddy Curry's contract vs the value of Luol Deng. And it's much more probable for David Lee to land an asset than it is Luol Deng or Kirk Hinrich.

Hmmmmmm