The LeBron James Thread

[King_B_Mack]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

You mean because the previous class skipped on them? The class of T-Mac and Duncan? The Bulls had nothing other than cap space. They weren't winning before and they had nothing to win with to entice anyone. Plus they had Krause. He's now gone.

Yes the Bulls won because of Jordan. But the Lakers won because of Kobe. Shaq. Magic. I just don't see the argument there.

No one is saying the Bulls will go back to a Jordan like era. That's not what this discussion is even about. You mentioned the Bulls aren't getting anyone other than Boozer or JJ. You made no argument why other than saying Chicago was nothing before MJ and is nothing after him.

Like I said, it's pretty much trolling at this point. After Jordan retired and pretty much the entire team went seperate ways the Bulls did like all teams do and went through a dry spot. They banked on the free agent class in 2000 and they didn't get any of them, considering how bad they were burned there, bouncing back to the playoffs and being one of the youngest, brightest teams in the NBA around 05 or so was a testament to the franchise and the guys running things. So the time between Jordan and the Bulls being a playoff team/ capable of looking like an actual NBA team was six, seven years tops. For the Lakers after the Showtime era and they're last Finals appearance? Eight years if you count getting back to the Finals. Six if you count getting out of the first round of the playoffs. What's the difference?

[P2K]

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But it doesn't make them any less because of the past. Same goes for NY and whoever else. No free agent is going to care what the Knicks or Bulls did in the 80's.

This is the main reason where we disagree.

New York is the bigger market but Chicago is not small either. We're talking about the bigger cities in the US here among a couple others. The fact that the Bulls have Rose, Noah, Deng, Gibson and almost the ability to sign two max agents has to give them a heads up against other teams. Does that mean that LBJ and Bosh are locked to come here? No.

Agreed. I have my doubts, but agreed. I'd rather Chicago than the NYC and their people lifting their skirts for a superstar. Disgusting.

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But also, I have this sense that a great franchise drafts its players. The Lakers didn't draft Shaq, and the Celtics didn't draft KG and Ray Allen, and you know what? I look down on those teams compared to others because of that.

[P2K]

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Like I said, it's pretty much trolling at this point. After Jordan retired and pretty much the entire team went seperate ways the Bulls did like all teams do and went through a dry spot. They banked on the free agent class in 2000 and they didn't get any of them, considering how bad they were burned there, bouncing back to the playoffs and being one of the youngest, brightest teams in the NBA around 05 or so was a testament to the franchise and the guys running things. So the time between Jordan and the Bulls being a playoff team/ capable of looking like an actual NBA team was six, seven years tops. For the Lakers after the Showtime era and they're last Finals appearance? Eight years if you count getting back to the Finals. Six if you count getting out of the first round of the playoffs. What's the difference?

Huge difference. They got Shaq like 3-4 years later, correct?

[King_B_Mack]

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You're "iffing" history that actually happened and happened for a reason.

I just don't think the Bulls have that certain "something" to go back to another Jordan era. I'm not a soothsayer. LeBron may sign with Chicago. But past history gives doubt. And that was more recent to the Jordan era.

WTH does this even mean? Iffing history that happened for a reason? The Spurs didn't win a championship until the Duncan era but you have no problem with that era making the franchise the greatness that it is. The Sixers haven't won a championship since J and they had Wilt for a cup of coffee you can't even try to say they have this amazing string of superstar after superstar. The Knicks haven't won a championship since the early 70's but they somehow have some long history that they can sell free agents on outside of come to New York cause it's New York?

[BlueNGold]

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Can July 1st just get here already? This thread is bordering on ridiculous now.

[King_B_Mack]

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Huge difference. They got Shaq like 3-4 years later, correct?

What's your point? Seriously, so what. If landing superstar players was as easy as you're trying to make it, everyone would be amazing.

[Jerseys Very Own]

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Go Bulls, I hope we get him for real. I dont know what Lebron will do but I hope and pray he chooses Chicago.

[P2K]

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WTH does this even mean? Iffing history that happened for a reason? The Spurs didn't win a championship until the Duncan era but you have no problem with that era making the franchise the greatness that it is. The Sixers haven't won a championship since J and they had Wilt for a cup of coffee you can't even try to say they have this amazing string of superstar after superstar. The Knicks haven't won a championship since the early 70's but they somehow have some long history that they can sell free agents on outside of come to New York cause it's New York?

The Iceman and David Robinson were nobodies?

Dolph Schayes, Hal Greer, Billy C? Moses, Barkley and Iverson?

Yeah, okay.

[P2K]

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What's your point? Seriously, so what. If landing superstar players was as easy as you're trying to make it, everyone would be amazing.

Which is my point. Not every team can do it. Money or no money.

[King_B_Mack]

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The Iceman and David Robinson were nobodies?

Dolph Schayes, Hal Greer, Billy C? Moses, Barkley and Iverson?

Yeah, okay.

What did they win? Nothing. Your franchise isn't measured by the names that have played for it, it's measured by the championships. The Lakers and Celtics aren't where they are just cause of the guys that wore the uniforms, it's because of the championships they won and it's exactly why those guys are the legends they are. You even put Iverson on that list, are you kidding me? So Iverson is part of what makes the Sixers a storied franchise? Give me a break. I didn't say Iceman and D-Rob were nobodies but they didn't do what they were supposed to do for their team, win championships. I also like how you count Wilt's role players but not Scottie for the Bulls right?

The Bulls have 6 championships, 6 conference titles, 7 division titles and 29 playoff appearances in their 44 year history, I'd say that's pretty good for one of the league's younger franchises.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

Not that it matters or anything but supposedly, the Nets are going to be the first team to meet with Lebron in Ohio on July 1. Prokhorov, Averah, Jay-Z, and Rod Thorn will be there to meet with him.

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I think that it is best not to speculate where lebron is going at this point. Yes this is possibly the biggest happening NBA history but what is all this speculation going to prove? for every statement that some one makes there is a corresponding counter statement. There are so many example to list that it would take me hours to finnish this post. You can argue all you want but when it comes down to it, Lebron like every other free agent, will sign with some team and there is nothing you can do about. I don't know if i am the only one who is sick of this whole "where is he going" issue for the past 3 years. Is Lebron the only game changing free agent in the class this year? no there are a few great players who could change a team not just Lebron. I understand he is the greatest player in the NBA (pains me to say that), but everyone just needs to shut there mouths on this issue. If he signs with the bulls he signs with the bulls. if he comes to NY he comes to NY. like i said before nothing we can do about it. for the most part this entire thread is senseless arguments that will not affect the spectrum of free agency at all. Hell I'm exited to for this free agency class too but you don't see me jumping up and down spewing out nonsense on why lebron should come to [Insert City Name here]. also this whole "where is lebron going" debate has taken away from many achievements in the entire sports realm such as the longest tennis match ever played. I am not one for the game of tennis but it was an historic moment in sports and for the most part no one seems to care. Let it die down a bit guys, Lebron like every other free agent will sign with a team and will have an impact on said team for X amount of years.

[P2K]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

Not that it matters or anything but supposedly, the Nets are going to be the first team to meet with Lebron in Ohio on July 1. Prokhorov, Averah, Jay-Z, and Rod Thorn will be there to meet with him.

If Lebron is a Net, make them go back to these...

[ProfessaPackMan]

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http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/06/for_lebron_james_free-agent_ex.html