The LeBron James Thread

[wwharton]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

About Bosh going to New York...am I the only one that remembers it being pretty much a fact that Bosh is intent on getting a S&T to get the most money possible? I could have sworn I remember hearing/reading that and I'm hearing about New York landing Bosh, but I really don't see what they have to trade to get him.

I think he said he'd be open to a S&T but don't remember him being dead set on it. You may no better than me though. I was under the impression that he was considering that option (and making it known) more for the ability to team up with one of the other big names than to get a "max" deal, but again, my guess is you know more about it than me.

[55]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

David Lee is a better trade option than anything Cleveland has to offer.

[OSUFan_88]

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David Lee is a better trade option than anything Cleveland has to offer.

And how do you propose the Knicks trade David Lee when he doesn't have a contract?

And I'd say that Hickson would have roughly the same trade value as Lee.

[OSUFan_88]

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Yes. Fortunately for you, you weren't the only critic of his play style. Especially through the last quarter of the season, we saw Gallo do more than shoot the ball. He attacked the basket, got to the line, played D. Including against Denver when he went on the record saying he wanted to guard Carmelo Anthony (who dropped 50 on us the last time). While every NBA Analyst went on to lol and predict Melo replicating his feat, Gallo went toe to toe with Melo throughout the second half and the Knicks got the W. Gallo's defense improved dramatically over the course of the year, especially considering Mike Antoni's coaching. Gallo became one of about 4 players on our team that could effectively draw charges and about one of two that could block shots.

I never saw any of that when I watched him. I guess i'll have to take your word for it.

So pretty much all the players you're listing are guys that weren't going to be back regardless. Okay. In that case I agree, they are filth and they don't deserve another contract.

If you let all of them go, you cannot run a team. Unless you plan on having a 5 man team, that is.

You're not looking in the right direction then. Next 3 years? Seriously? You put those two guys together, Chandler, Gallo, Douglas, Walker all improve and they will considering how many open looks they'll get. Curry's expiring deal fetches a solid player or two, or worse case scenario, we dump it next year and have more cap to add another player. We can proceed to use the MLE the following year.

If you are over the cap. Chandler is the only guy who I believe would actually start on a championship team. Gallo would go to the bench if LBJ came, so he'd be a good piece, but Douglas and Walker are either an insignificant backup or not on title winning teams.

Like what?

Jamison's expiring contract, Mo's expiring contract, Andy's voidable contract after 3 years I believe...plus they'll get something for West this year.

Let's not make it seem like they don't have any pieces at all.

Fair enough. They have a piece and some bench players.

[55]

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And how do you propose the Knicks trade David Lee when he doesn't have a contract?

Was referring to the s&t option regarding Bosh. New York has Lee's Bird Rights and can offer him a longer/better contract etc. etc.

And I'd say that Hickson would have roughly the same trade value as Lee.

That's insane homerism. David Lee is a completely better basketball player than J.J. Hickson. Plus, the salaries don't even come close to matching up. Hickson is only scheduled to make 1.5 million this coming season.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

David Lee is a better trade option than anything Cleveland has to offer.

Problem with this is you're not getting Bosh for Lee straight up I don't think for one and for two, everyone is naming off Lee as a reason the Knicks will be amazing with Bron and Bosh. If he's gone along with another prime piece of the Knicks puzzle how are they a better fit than Cleveland, NJ or Chicago? The Clippers had cap space to make some moves a few years ago when they signed Baron Davis and Elton Brand bolted to Philly after talking him there, don't the Knicks need something more tangible than saying 'we'll have capspace so anybody we want will come here?'

[Altimus]

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And how do you propose the Knicks trade David Lee when he doesn't have a contract?

And I'd say that Hickson would have roughly the same trade value as Lee.

Not even close man.

[USF11]

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I see that Philly is going to trade Iguodala if they take Evan Turner.

Thats a pretty exciting piece in a S&T scenario, no?

[BlueNGold]

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I see that Philly is going to trade Iguodala if they take Evan Turner.

Thats a pretty exciting piece in a S&T scenario, no?

They couldn't just play 1 of them at the 2 and keep both?

[USF11]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

They couldn't just play 1 of them at the 2 and keep both?

I guess not according to the report.

Plus I would want Drue Holliday on the floor as much as possible with Turner, and Thad Young.

Plus they added Spencer Hawes and Nocioni.

If they could move AI/Louis Williams in a Bosh swap the 76ers get real good real fast.

[OSUFan_88]

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Not even close man.

I disagree. Hickson is younger, more athletic, and has potential. For a rebuilding team, I'd think he'd be more attractive than Lee, who for all intents and purposes, has hit his ceiling.

I see that Philly is going to trade Iguodala if they take Evan Turner.

Thats a pretty exciting piece in a S&T scenario, no?

Pretty sure everything I've read is that Philly is not going to trade Iggy.

[ehh]

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I disagree. Hickson is younger, more athletic, and has potential. For a rebuilding team, I'd think he'd be more attractive than Lee, who for all intents and purposes, has hit his ceiling.
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Hitting your ceiling isn't a bad thing when you average 20, 12 & 4. And please don't bring up the "yeah, in D'Antoni's system" nonsense because anyone who watched more than five Knicks games this year would know that's irrelevant.

Lee isn't a great defender, he's very good to solid at everything else.

[NYJets]

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Problem with this is you're not getting Bosh for Lee straight up I don't think for one and for two, everyone is naming off Lee as a reason the Knicks will be amazing with Bron and Bosh. '

Why not? The Knicks could sign Bosh straight up, so if Bosh tells the Raptors he wants to go to New York, you think they are in position to ask for more?

And not one person has ever said that Lee is a reason the Knicks will be amazing with Lebron and Bosh. The only possible chance of Lee being a Knick next year is if they completely strike out in free agency. There is no room for him if they sign 2 max's.

[Altimus]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

I disagree. Hickson is younger, more athletic, and has potential. For a rebuilding team, I'd think he'd be more attractive than Lee, who for all intents and purposes, has hit his ceiling.



Pretty sure everything I've read is that Philly is not going to trade Iggy.

Perhaps for a rebuilding team but there is also the possibility you get nothing for him. He might just be a poor man's Tyrus Thomas. Not saying he is, but not saying he will be a good player as not enough has been seen either way to judge.

At this point I'd take Lee because of the lesser risk.

[Altimus]

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Why not? The Knicks could sign Bosh straight up, so if Bosh tells the Raptors he wants to go to New York, you think they are in position to ask for more?

And not one person has ever said that Lee is a reason the Knicks will be amazing with Lebron and Bosh. The only possible chance of Lee being a Knick next year is if they completely strike out in free agency. There is no room for him if they sign 2 max's.

Anything can happen as long as Lee and Bosh agree.

I still think Knicks have to acquire some kind of banging big man in order to get Bosh. I just don't see him coming here to play the 5. Haywood perhaps.