The LeBron James Thread

[Dice]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Do a search on this thread... you can even limit it to Dice's comments. I'm sure you'll find many more detailed posts explaining his position. Your response to his post was just a shot to entice a response to keep this going around in the same circle.

Please don't pretend you think Dice or any of us actually felt your response wasn't sarcastic.

Thank you.

I was going to respond to his original post but I'm not wasting my time anymore explaining it. It seem like those who get the issue will just be labeled as 'LeBron Haters' by those who just can't(or maybe won't) understand. OK. If that's what you want to label me, then fine. I hate Lebron.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Good lord how is this thread STILL going on? LOL

Ya'll ain't tired yet from beating the same dead horse with the same hammer over and over again?

[goldteethbandit]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Do a search on this thread... you can even limit it to Dice's comments. I'm sure you'll find many more detailed posts explaining his position. Your response to his post was just a shot to entice a response to keep this going around in the same circle.

Please don't pretend you think Dice or any of us actually felt your response wasn't sarcastic.

what are you talking about read his quote he clearly said

First of all, the problem(at least to me) is not him getting on a championship team, it's how he got there and why. We all know that the Cavs failed to put a championship team around him. We all know that BUT him leaving Cleveland is not the issue. It's him going to a team AS A FREE AGENT WHO HAS ALREADY A TOP 5 PLAYER while HE'S A TOP FIVE PLAYER himself. That's the problem, which as a result hurts his legacy as a player. .

I don't have to do a search about what he thinks about Lebrons character because he just stated that his problem in regards to Lebrons "legacy" is him leaving via free agency, nothing about Lebron as a person or him acting like a jerk with the whole free agency thing. Maybe you should calm down and actually read what he was talking about.

[Dice]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Good lord how is this thread STILL going on? LOL

Ya'll ain't tired yet from beating the same dead horse with the same hammer over and over again?

I guess not. But I posted what I posted because it came from an article on ESPN's website. I was just surprised that there are fully credential media people who don't understand the point most of us our trying to get across either. Which is mind boggling because they actually get paid to do this stuff. We're just doing it for leisure.

[goldteethbandit]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Thank you.

I was going to respond to his original post but I'm not wasting my time anymore explaining it. It seem like those who get the issue will just be labeled as 'LeBron Haters' by those who just can't(or maybe won't) understand. OK. If that's what you want to label me, then fine. I hate Lebron.

oh my...... I give up, fine then I completely misunderstood you're stance your issue is more about how Lebron douched it up on his way out of Cleveland.

[nuckles2k2]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

oh my...... I give up, fine then I completely misunderstood you're stance your issue is more about how Lebron douched it up on his way out of Cleveland.

To put it simply:

MJ: drafted; got his *** tore up, got some help but was still "the man" on his team and returned the *** whoopings tenfold; dominated.

Magic: drafted into a somewhat favorable situation with Kareem there; evolved into "the man" on his team, won rings.

Kobe: drafted; had to wait, became the man on his team, doing pretty well now. Working on ring #3 as "the man" #6 overall.

Wade: drafted; "the man" on his team, suffered through the bad times and celebrated the good. Brought a ring to Miami as "the man."

Paul Pierce: drafted; newest face of a very storied franchise, had to wait, but finally won a ring as "the man" on his team (KG and Ray made it a point to have him be team captain.)

Tim Duncan: drafted; eventually became the anchor of the Spurs, won multiple rings as "the man", even after Parker won the Finals MVP in '07 it was still Duncan's team.

LBJ: drafted to the Cavs, had to suffer through some bad years, carried a team to the finals, the team improved remarkably after that, leaves the team to go to the man's team who's listed 3 spots up. No longer has a team to call his own, he now at best shares one. But since a teammate of his is on this list...isn't it that guy's team?



Edit: I forgot to include Bird on there, but you get the point.

[Jukeman]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Maybe because the point is pointless???

[Starlin4Prez]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Sidebar: This might have to be the longest running thread I have ever seen. Smh.

[nuckles2k2]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Maybe because the point is pointless???

That's your opinion tho. All people are saying is that the recent two-time MVP doesn't have his own team anymore and there are examples of people who won their ring being the leader of a team. People that LBJ realistically can no longer be compared to. There's nothing wrong with being a big name with a ring, he just took himself out of contention of being with the biggest names. If he's content with that then who cares?

I just fail to understand how people don't see this, whether you like the guy or not is not the issue. It is what it is.

[Jukeman]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

That's your opinion tho. All people are saying is that the recent two-time MVP doesn't have his own team anymore and there are examples of people who won their ring being the leader of a team. People that LBJ realistically can no longer be compared to. There's nothing wrong with being a big name with a ring, he just took himself out of contention of being with the biggest names. If he's content with that then who cares?

I just fail to understand how people don't see this, whether you like the guy or not is not the issue. It is what it is.

You just answered your own question, In their opinion, they dont look at it how you do..

The season hasnt even started yet and we're naming captains and go to players...

At the end of the day LBJ was winning while Wade was losing...

Bottom line, Let the season play out...

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

You just answered your own question, In their opinion, they dont look at it how you do..

The season hasnt even started yet and we're naming captains and go to players...

Uhhhh isn't this what usually happens every offseason in any sport? LOL

[Jukeman]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Uhhhh isn't this what usually happens every offseason in any sport? LOL

No because two "alpha males" do not build a team from scratch together every offseason...Pretty much every year we know who the guy is...

BTW The Celtics were not the same team without KG...

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

In the words of Dookie: "I dunno too much"

[nuckles2k2]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

You just answered your own question, In their opinion, they dont look at it how you do..

The season hasnt even started yet and we're naming captains and go to players...

At the end of the day LBJ was winning while Wade was losing...

Bottom line, Let the season play out...

That list of what players have done in the past is not opinion, it's fact. It's also a fact that LBJ is veering off the course that those players traveled, once again, not an opinion, fact. So therefore you can not realistically compare LBJ to those guys anymore because he is no longer following or improving upon their model.

None of that is opinion. I don't know how you can have an opinion on "Jordan, Magic, Duncan, Kobe, etc. were the centerpiece for their team and now LBJ is on someone else's team, it's not the same." It's not my opinion that Wade led the Heat past the Mavs and won a ring while LBJ's team was sitting at home watching. That happened. Now LBJ is on that team, once again, not an opinion...he's there; fact.

Where's the opinion in any of this? Like I said, whether you agree or disagree with the decision, like the guy or not, some objective part of you has to at least understand that LBJ willingly left one team to join up with another bonafide superstar. He didn't go to a team with talent and cap space to build around him, he went to D-Wade, a guy who usually finishes the season in the hunt for the MVP right along with James, and a guy who's already lead a team to a championship without James.

Bottom line, you can't compare LBJ with any of the all time greats anymore or expect his name to be up there when it's all said and done. However you translate that and process that is up to you, but numbers alone won't get him there, and the one factor that could...he gave away for the next 6 years (barring a trade to a barren team.)

[nuckles2k2]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

No because two "alpha males" do not build a team from scratch together every offseason...Pretty much every year we know who the guy is...

BTW The Celtics were not the same team without KG...

But when KG got to the Celtics he made sure that everyone understood it was Paul Pierce's team. Once again, not my opinion, something that actually happened. Paul Pierce remained "the man" in Boston.