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Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat
Yeah there shouldnt be a debate about range.
And Pippen would take the toughest defensive assignment to keep Jordan for having to guard him. So I dont see how you can be so adamant about him being a better on ball defender than LeBron.You looking at the Chair MAN!
Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.Comment
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Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat
Pippen also did this because Jordan took care of the scoring load. Jordan was easily the best defender at his position and could guard any position 1-3. Pippen was a little more versatile on D because he could play the perimeter with his length and could play post defense. Usually why he took the toughest assignments because his length frustrated people, but don't get it twisted, Jordan was one of the best on ball defenders in the NBA. There was like a 6 year stretch where he averaged nearly 3 steals a game.
LeBron attributes a majority of his defensive highlights from weakside blocks, etc...Many players have exploited LeBron's on ball D such as Gerald Wallace and Rafer Alston just to name a few.Comment
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Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat
I think "range" is the only one here you got right. Dribbling, passing, etc. I'm really not sure what gave you the idea that Lebron is better. As for the mid range shot, Jordan leaned on it more as he got older but had it at UNC. And the on ball defense comment couldn't be farther from the truth.
I don't even think these are the things that should be looked at if we're trying to find the difference between James and Jordan, but your perception is definitely off.Comment
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You looking at the Chair MAN!
Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.Comment
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Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat
Statistically it isn't even close.
Lebron has finished in the top 10 of assists per game four times and is ranked 26th in NBA history. Jordan finished 10th in assists per game once.
Jordan had one season over 6.3 assists while Lebron has 5 including four with 7.2 assists or more.
With Wade, Bosh, and Miller instead of Z, Hughes, and Mo I wouldn't be surprised if Lebron hit 10 assists per game a few times over the next few years. He's the highest APG non-point guard in history.Comment
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LeBron to MJ comparisons....Look out....
Who game is better?
To me LeBron is in a class of his own. when we talk about Body wise. I don't think there ever been a freak of nature like him. I know Magic was a pretty good point guard...lol But God LeBron's size, speed and power....Are down right crazy...
Jordan on the other hand had no match. I mean mentally. There isn't a dude that was more on top of his game than Jordan. I mean skill wise. Jordan was the master lol in my opinion.
But again thats just my opinion. Jordan's game was way better than LBJ's game...defensively and offensivelyHands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQoComment
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You looking at the Chair MAN!
Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.Comment
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Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat
I thought the Lebron-MJ Comparisons ceased already?#RespectTheCultureComment
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First of all, lets get one thing straight... Lebron's passing ability is not compared to Magic. Lebron's ability to play his position like a PG, and at a high level, at his size is compared to Magic. Lebron is a good passer and I'm not saying otherwise, but it's more obvious because of his nature as a player. Don't get it twisted, Jordan didn't want to pass the ball to ANYBODY... but that doesn't mean he wasn't a good passer. The one time Cebby mentioned that he averaged 10 assists came after a reporter criticized him for not being able to pass. He decided to prove the guy wrong. I've watched both play and Lebron's mentality is more suited for a role that gets assists but it's arguable who the better "passer" is.
Besides that's only one of the many things you mentioned. It was a stretch trying to put him over Jordan the way you were.
The thing about Lebron is he's built like a PF. It's amazing that he is quick and coordinated enough to do things that a PG or SG can do at his height and size. THAT is why he's a freak like we've never seen before. But the fact that this mammoth can drive by a guard to get to the rim and score is what's amazing... not the thought that he can do it better than Jordan. There are certainly things he can do better than Jordan, like shoot 3's and use his power along with quickness on drives, but lets not confuse his skills "at his size" with skills in general.
EDIT: before I get too deep in this, let me say again, these are not the things that should be talked about when comparing the two. Jordan's heart and killer instinct make Lebron look like a JV baller.Comment
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Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat
Some people consider taking a basement dwelling team to 6 championship titles, the best record in NBA history and a solid place on the NBA map for years after retirement necessary for comparison.
Some think that never losing a championship series is necessary for comparison.
Some think that he would've had to reach heights on a team like the Cavs to make up for either not winning every championship series or not playing in an era with the likes of Bird, Magic, Kareem, Hakeem, etc. Jordan is considered the reason a lot of all time greats didn't win a ring... if the Heat end up with a similar run to the Bulls of that time, people will talk about the Heat limiting players from getting rings, not Lebron.
I'm sure there are other reasons but whether you (or I) agree with some/all of these, they're legit.Comment
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Why?
Jordan never took a basement dwelling team to 6 championship titles. He took a 55 win team to 3 titles and a better team to 3 titles.
Then some are stupid.Some think that never losing a championship series is necessary for comparison.
Why should Lebron be penalized for taking over a series against a championship team only to lose to the second biggest dynasty of the last 10 years?
If Jordan had managed to get past the Pistons in 1988 they probably get beat by the Lakers.
If he wins 6 chips, I'd definitely take 6 chips in 7 appearances over 6 chips in 6 appearances and so would any logically thinking person.
But Jordan didn't win against any of them.Some think that he would've had to reach heights on a team like the Cavs to make up for either not winning every championship series or not playing in an era with the likes of Bird, Magic, Kareem, Hakeem, etc.
Jordan lost both series against Bird while winning 0 games.
Jordan never played Kareem and won one chip against a 31 year old Magic in his last full season.
Jordan never played Hakeem in a playoff series.
That would be like Lebron beating the Lakers this year, winning a few chips and saying that Lebron won chips in the era of Duncan, Kobe, and Shaq.
Jordan didn't win in the era of Bird, Kareem, and Magic. He didn't play in the era of Hakeem. He won in the era of Jordan, Malone, and maybe Ewing.Comment
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