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  • Eman5805
    MVP
    • Mar 2009
    • 3545

    #181
    Re: Chris Paul wants out?

    Originally posted by da ThRONe
    As much as I like Gortat there is no way I'm trading an Allstar for a back-up. West is our most consistent scorer. But we could use his defense. Man why did they ever trade Tyson?
    Something about a congenital foot condition. I don't know. Okafor's not bad...but he's not worth that gaudy contract.

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    • ZB9
      Hall Of Fame
      • Nov 2004
      • 18387

      #182
      Re: Chris Paul wants out?

      Dallas can put together a good package for Paul, but I doubt the Hornets would want to ship him to a division rival...

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      • Kashanova
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2003
        • 12695

        #183
        Re: Chris Paul wants out?

        Originally posted by ProjectRipCity
        So Paul wants to be on the Knicks...No offense to the Knicks organization...But didn't he say he wanted to "win" ??
        thats exactly what the knicks would do if he went to the knicks, Blazers dont stand a chance in the west even with Paul

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        • da ThRONe
          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
          • Mar 2009
          • 8528

          #184
          Re: Chris Paul wants out?

          Originally posted by Eman5805
          Something about a congenital foot condition. I don't know. Okafor's not bad...but he's not worth that gaudy contract.
          I was actually excited about getting E because I thought he could give us a lot more offensively than Tyson. Which he does but not enough to make up for what Tyson gave us defensively. We cant guard anybody on ball and we dont have a center that can protect the basket.
          You looking at the Chair MAN!

          Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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          • Eman5805
            MVP
            • Mar 2009
            • 3545

            #185
            Re: Chris Paul wants out?

            Originally posted by Kashanova
            thats exactly what the knicks would do if he went to the knicks, Blazers dont stand a chance in the west even with Paul
            Would they be good enough to beat the Bulls, Magic, Bucks, and of course...the Celtics? Though?

            They'd be, at best, like the 07'-08' Hornets. Win some games in regular and fizzle out in a 7 game series.

            Originally posted by da ThRONe
            I was actually excited about getting E because I thought he could give us a lot more offensively than Tyson. Which he does but not enough to make up for what Tyson gave us defensively. We cant guard anybody on ball and we dont have a center that can protect the basket.
            That's why Monty Williams has my full confidence. 1st thing he said after us not going to win on just pure talent right now (it'll be cuz of hard work) was that interior D starts on the perimeter. I've been preaching that to my friends and on other sites for the longest. We had terrible on ball D. Thornton was abused at times as a rookie and Collison let people get inside on him at times to. Nevermind the debacles of Posey, Mo Pete, Peja, and Julian Wright.

            And that's also what's got me excited about Quincy Pondexter. He played John Wall better than anyone else in Summer League, a dude with elite, All-Star athleticism. If he continues to improve, he could be just what the doctor ordered.
            Last edited by Eman5805; 07-23-2010, 05:49 PM.

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            • da ThRONe
              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
              • Mar 2009
              • 8528

              #186
              Re: Chris Paul wants out?

              Originally posted by Eman5805
              Would they be good enough to beat the Bulls, Magic, Bucks, and of course...the Celtics? Though?

              They'd be, at best, like the 07'-08' Hornets. Win some games in regular and fizzle out in a 7 game series.
              Just him and STATS arent winning any chips. But if Melo does go to NYK then they have a really good chance.
              You looking at the Chair MAN!

              Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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              • Eman5805
                MVP
                • Mar 2009
                • 3545

                #187
                Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                Just him and STATS arent winning any chips. But if Melo does go to NYK then they have a really good chance.
                Good. We're in agreement then.

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                • bigfnjoe96
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 11410

                  #188
                  Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                  Originally posted by wwharton
                  Doesn't change things enough IMO. I think there's been enough Knick bashing during the whole "Decision" thing but being honest, they have nothing to give. The fact that Curry is what they dangle for all these situations should tell you how bare the cupboard is. NO doesn't want Curry (they're trying to move Okafer) so what else they got? The only chance the knicks have is part of some 3 team deal that we couldn't even begin to dream of. Even then, I think it's a huge reach.

                  Now if Paul was in his last year and said he only wants to be a Knick, then they may have something to work with but that's not the case.
                  wwharton the cupboard isn't bare. May not be up to some of the other teams (Portland comes to mine) but it's not bare. As for Curry, when we talk Curry we talk about his Expiring 11 million dollar contract. That's the attraction, not Curry the player. Any deal NO takes for them will more than likely include expiring contracts.

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                  • bigfnjoe96
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 11410

                    #189
                    Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                    Originally posted by Eman5805
                    Would they be good enough to beat the Bulls, Magic, Bucks, and of course...the Celtics? Though?

                    They'd be, at best, like the 07'-08' Hornets. Win some games in regular and fizzle out in a 7 game series.
                    I doubt Donnie Walsh will strip our roster just to get CP3/Okafer. They're will be pieces that will contribute it just won't only be CP3 & STAT. Gallo or Randolph will still be Knicks

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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #190
                      Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                      As a Knicks fan, I can honestly say that at this point, I don't want any part of Chris Paul. It will clearly cost too much to get him, and I would like to, if at all possible, build around the team that we have now, and at least see how it works out. We've got decent pieces, I'd rather we didn't blow it up to get CP3, even if he is one of the best point guards out right now.
                      Originally posted by G Perico
                      If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                      I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                      In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                      The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                      • wwharton
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26949

                        #191
                        Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                        Originally posted by Kashanova
                        if NO is trying to get rid of okafar why wouldn't they want curry? your getting rid of a terrible contract at the same time your getting an expiring one it makes all the sense in the world
                        Originally posted by nuckles2k2
                        I don't know about that. Okafer is under contract until like the 2014 season making $11m+ in each of those seasons, Curry's $11m plus Peja's $15m will instantly give them $25m in cap space next year. That's something that a rebuilding team covets, cap space. Throw in Wilson Chandler and Douglas and they get depth on their team from the 1 to the 3 spot. And assuming that they'd also ask for a Gallo or Randolph they'd probably get one of those guys, depending on where we are in this whole process.

                        Cap relief and young, cheap, talent seems suitable for a team looking to rebuild.

                        Disclaimer: I'm not saying this will happen. Just one of the many possibilities out there.
                        Correct thought, incorrect statement (by me). My point is there are many other teams in this race. You have to look at this with the blinders off. There is absolutely no package that NYK can put together that looks as attractive as what every other team in this discussion can put together... and that's with Curry's expiring contract.

                        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                        Yea regardless of pressure I can't see NO giving up Paul to NY just for a bag of magic beans, especially since it's reported that he wants to go there as well. If im NO in that case, I'd do everything in my power to try and get as much as I can from NY, or any other team on that reported list of teams he has.
                        That's pretty much what I'm saying.

                        Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                        wwharton the cupboard isn't bare. May not be up to some of the other teams (Portland comes to mine) but it's not bare. As for Curry, when we talk Curry we talk about his Expiring 11 million dollar contract. That's the attraction, not Curry the player. Any deal NO takes for them will more than likely include expiring contracts.
                        If we're discussing the up and coming Knicks as a team, no the cupboard is not bare. If we're talking about the current Knicks as trade partners... it pretty much is. Like I said above, the Knicks just can't put together a deal that compares to what teams like Portland, Dallas, Orlando, or even the Nets can give to the Hornets. Considering they don't have to trade Paul at all, I don't see them taking less than the best deal presented.

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                        • DieHardYankee26
                          BING BONG
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 10178

                          #192
                          Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                          People keep forgetting this, but Curry's 11 mil expiring looks pedestrian when the Magic can offer VC's 17.3 mil expiring.
                          Originally posted by G Perico
                          If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                          • bigfnjoe96
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 11410

                            #193
                            Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                            Originally posted by wwharton
                            Correct thought, incorrect statement (by me). My point is there are many other teams in this race. You have to look at this with the blinders off. There is absolutely no package that NYK can put together that looks as attractive as what every other team in this discussion can put together... and that's with Curry's expiring contract.

                            That's pretty much what I'm saying.

                            If we're discussing the up and coming Knicks as a team, no the cupboard is not bare. If we're talking about the current Knicks as trade partners... it pretty much is. Like I said above, the Knicks just can't put together a deal that compares to what teams like Portland, Dallas, Orlando, or even the Nets can give to the Hornets. Considering they don't have to trade Paul at all, I don't see them taking less than the best deal presented.
                            I agree with you that NY though on CP3's list are behind the teams you posted with what they can offer NO. I'm not disputing that. I was just pointing out what the Knicks may offer in order to get them.

                            As I've said before if it's gonna gut our roster & basically handicap us CAP wise, I say PASS & go with what we got, which IMO is a Young, Exciting team which can surprise some people if things fall into place

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                            • ProjectRipCity
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2395

                              #194
                              Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                              Originally posted by Kashanova
                              thats exactly what the knicks would do if he went to the knicks, Blazers dont stand a chance in the west even with Paul


                              You're joking right? As it stands now Portland has 2x the roster the Knicks have...Blazers make the playoffs in the West...The Knicks fail to make the playoffs in the East. If Portland gave up younger pieces it's not like Portland would have to completely shake up their roster like the Knicks would, because the Knicks have like 2 decent players on their team.
                              Even if the Knicks magically got Paul for free...They would still have a worse record given the current roster.

                              Business wise it would make more sense going to NYK due to the location. If Chris Paul wants to actually make a decent run, and it was between the Blazers and Knicks...It would be dumb to say the Knicks would be that choice.

                              On topic: Hear any additional news about Chris Paul's whereabouts?
                              Last edited by ProjectRipCity; 07-23-2010, 06:34 PM.

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                              • Brankles
                                Banned
                                • May 2003
                                • 5113

                                #195
                                Re: Chris Paul wants out?

                                Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                                People keep forgetting this, but Curry's 11 mil expiring looks pedestrian when the Magic can offer VC's 17.3 mil expiring.
                                Yep. And at minimum, VC would still at least produce for a season. The Hornets would still have Collison, VC/Thornton/Peja/Wright/Pondexter, West and Gortat/Aldrich, which isn't the worst lineup ever. Probably good for about 20th or so in the league.

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