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  • Dice
    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #1501
    Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

    Originally posted by PrettyT11
    Not really because the Nuggets want no part of Deng's contract.
    They don't have to take Deng. But just like with this proposed trade, they could find a third party to take Deng off our hands.

    Not that I'm quick to give up Deng, because he's having a good season. BUT if it's for Melo, I'll pull the switch.
    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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    • PrettyT11
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 3220

      #1502
      Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

      Originally posted by Dice
      They don't have to take Deng. But just like with this proposed trade, they could find a third party to take Deng off our hands.

      Not that I'm quick to give up Deng, because he's having a good season. BUT if it's for Melo, I'll pull the switch.
      The difference is the third team in this deal is just there to get Denver an extra draft pick. All of the money being traded would be between Denver and NY.

      If the Nuggets wouldn't be the one taking Deng then they would still have to take enough salery back for the numbers to match. Without Denver taking Deng it would be extremely hard to find a team that would take him and have the contracts to give back to Denver that would match what they want.

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      • Dice
        Sitting by the door
        • Jul 2002
        • 6627

        #1503
        Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

        Originally posted by PrettyT11
        The difference is the third team in this deal is just there to get Denver an extra draft pick. All of the money being traded would be between Denver and NY.

        If the Nuggets wouldn't be the one taking Deng then they would still have to take enough salery back for the numbers to match. Without Denver taking Deng it would be extremely hard to find a team that would take him and have the contracts to give back to Denver that would match what they want.
        It could still work if you get a team like Detroit and Rip Hamilton's salary.
        I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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        • PrettyT11
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 3220

          #1504
          Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

          Originally posted by Dice
          It could still work if you get a team like Detroit and Rip Hamilton's salary.
          From a salary matching standpoint it could work but it would never happen. Denver has said from the jump they want young talent, picks, and expiring contracts. RIP provides none of the above and plays a position where they already have two younger and cheaper players. Detroit is trying to cut salary and is the main reason why they are trying to move RIP. They wouldn't trade him for a player with more years on his deal and plays a spot in which they already have Prince and an improving Daye.

          That's why I say without Denver taking Deng we have pretty zero chance of landing a deal for Melo. From a talent standpoint sure we can offer a better deal than NY but not from the standpoint of giving Denver what it actually wants.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #1505
            Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

            The closer to the deadline, the less leverage Denver has... pretty soon they wont be in position to demand anything of anyone

            Makes we wonder why they're ignoring Mark Cuban since he said he'll take Melo for a half year rental

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            • PrettyT11
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 3220

              #1506
              Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

              What pieces does Dallas have to offer though to make a deal work though?? Butler is out for the year and Roddy is hurt and wouldn't help Denver anyway. So that leaves you with Marion and Terry. If I'm Denver I want no part of either Terry or Marion.

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              • Dice
                Sitting by the door
                • Jul 2002
                • 6627

                #1507
                Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                Originally posted by PrettyT11
                What pieces does Dallas have to offer though to make a deal work though?? Butler is out for the year and Roddy is hurt and wouldn't help Denver anyway. So that leaves you with Marion and Terry. If I'm Denver I want no part of either Terry or Marion.
                And that's the point I'm trying to get at. Why would Denver take on Marion's and Terry's contracts and not take Deng's? At least with Deng, you get a younger player than either of the guys Dallas is offering.

                And in regards to the Rip Hamilton deal, if you add in Detroit's first round draft pick, which will be a lottery pick, it sweetens the deal even more.

                NOW, I'm not saying all of this is going to happen, BUT I don't think it's impossible. I've seen teams take hard stances before and then change up at the last minute.
                I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #1508
                  Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                  Originally posted by PrettyT11
                  From a salary matching standpoint it could work but it would never happen. Denver has said from the jump they want young talent, picks, and expiring contracts. RIP provides none of the above and plays a position where they already have two younger and cheaper players. Detroit is trying to cut salary and is the main reason why they are trying to move RIP. They wouldn't trade him for a player with more years on his deal and plays a spot in which they already have Prince and an improving Daye.

                  That's why I say without Denver taking Deng we have pretty zero chance of landing a deal for Melo. From a talent standpoint sure we can offer a better deal than NY but not from the standpoint of giving Denver what it actually wants.
                  You have no proof since this has not come from Denver's mouth so it's not true.

                  /sarcasm
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #1509
                    Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                    Originally posted by Dice
                    And that's the point I'm trying to get at. Why would Denver take on Marion's and Terry's contracts and not take Deng's? At least with Deng, you get a younger player than either of the guys Dallas is offering.

                    And in regards to the Rip Hamilton deal, if you add in Detroit's first round draft pick, which will be a lottery pick, it sweetens the deal even more.

                    NOW, I'm not saying all of this is going to happen, BUT I don't think it's impossible. I've seen teams take hard stances before and then change up at the last minute.
                    I think it's impossible.

                    But that's moreso because it ain't gonna happen.
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #1510
                      Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                      Originally posted by PrettyT11
                      What pieces does Dallas have to offer though to make a deal work though?? Butler is out for the year and Roddy is hurt and wouldn't help Denver anyway. So that leaves you with Marion and Terry. If I'm Denver I want no part of either Terry or Marion.

                      Dont know but I think Mark said this long before Caron got injured.

                      He's just the only one that has come out to say he doesn't mind on a couple of occassions that he would do it...

                      and again, pretty soon Denver wont have alot of options will they?

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #1511
                        Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                        I don't think they have any options since other than Dallas and Houston, nobody else is willing to just rent him for the season, at least as far as what we know.

                        At this point, just let the man go where he's wanted to go along which is NY and then Denver can rebuild with the Chauncey Billups' and the JR Smith's and the Al Harrington's of the world.

                        And speaking of Denver, where has Stumble been at lately? Haven't seen him post much on OS for a while now?
                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #1512
                          Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          I don't think they have any options since other than Dallas and Houston, nobody else is willing to just rent him for the season, at least as far as what we know.

                          At this point, just let the man go where he's wanted to go along which is NY and then Denver can rebuild with the Chauncey Billups' and the JR Smith's and the Al Harrington's of the world.

                          And speaking of Denver, where has Stumble been at lately? Haven't seen him post much on OS for a while now?

                          Thats a pretty bleak future they have there in Denver

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                          • PrettyT11
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3220

                            #1513
                            Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                            Originally posted by Dice
                            And that's the point I'm trying to get at. Why would Denver take on Marion's and Terry's contracts and not take Deng's? At least with Deng, you get a younger player than either of the guys Dallas is offering.

                            And in regards to the Rip Hamilton deal, if you add in Detroit's first round draft pick, which will be a lottery pick, it sweetens the deal even more.

                            NOW, I'm not saying all of this is going to happen, BUT I don't think it's impossible. I've seen teams take hard stances before and then change up at the last minute.
                            Denver doesn't want any of them. That is why you don't hear anything about any of those teams getting Melo or even being in talks for him. Yeah Deng might be a better option than Marion and Terry but none of them are a option that Denver wants..

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                            • PrettyT11
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3220

                              #1514
                              Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                              Originally posted by 23
                              Dont know but I think Mark said this long before Caron got injured.

                              He's just the only one that has come out to say he doesn't mind on a couple of occassions that he would do it...

                              and again, pretty soon Denver wont have alot of options will they?
                              I remember him saying that before Butler got hurt but I haven't heard anything from him since then. I guess he knows now that he has no chance of making a deal.

                              Denver never really had many options to begin with because Houston and Dallas was the only teams saying they would make a deal without the extension.

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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #1515
                                Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                                Originally posted by PrettyT11
                                I remember him saying that before Butler got hurt but I haven't heard anything from him since then. I guess he knows now that he has no chance of making a deal.

                                Denver never really had many options to begin with because Houston and Dallas was the only teams saying they would make a deal without the extension.
                                I believe he did again last week but he couldn't mention names without getting in trouble or something to that effect.

                                Im sure you could find it if you looked it up. He said once a player is there its up to him to get them to sign an extension

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