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  • da ThRONe
    Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
    • Mar 2009
    • 8528

    #16
    Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

    It would depend on how my team is structured. If I need scoring Dirk if I need everything else more than scoring Pau.
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    • capp34
      MVP
      • Mar 2007
      • 1313

      #17
      Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

      I will take Gasol because I cant get over the lack of a post game by dirk. He plays to small for me might as well be a small forward.
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      • JBH3
        Marvel's Finest
        • Jan 2007
        • 13506

        #18
        Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

        Originally posted by da ThRONe
        It would depend on how my team is structured. If I need scoring Dirk if I need everything else more than scoring Pau.
        So if you need 1 more off. board a game, 1 more block, and higher FG% but lower FT% plus about 7 less points/gm you're taking Pau?
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        • da ThRONe
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          • Mar 2009
          • 8528

          #19
          Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

          Originally posted by JBH3
          So if you need 1 more off. board a game, 1 more block, and higher FG% but lower FT% plus about 7 less points/gm you're taking Pau?
          I dont know how you break it down to needing on more this or three more of that. As GM if I'm looking at my team and we need more help defensively and rebounding wise more than scoring I'd rather have Pau.
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          • luv_mist
            Older
            • May 2004
            • 9596

            #20
            Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

            Dirk is soft.......but his torch is untouchable. Dirk all day. I can teach the man to post and he'll become more of an unstoppable force. Not to mention that Dirk and that Mavs team that made it to the finals were robbed by the horrible calls. Team was dismantled also. Rough stuff but they were pretty good.

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            • JBH3
              Marvel's Finest
              • Jan 2007
              • 13506

              #21
              Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

              Originally posted by da ThRONe
              I dont know how you break it down to needing on more this or three more of that. As GM if I'm looking at my team and we need more help defensively and rebounding wise more than scoring I'd rather have Pau.
              Statistically there is no real defensive and/or rebounding gap between Gasol and Nowitzki. GMs analyze statistics and metrics do they not? Nowitzki far surpasses Gasol in winshares too.
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              • chance
                MVP
                • Dec 2006
                • 2219

                #22
                Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

                Dirk in a pretty big gap
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                • J_Posse
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                  • Jun 2005
                  • 11255

                  #23
                  Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

                  I would need to choice the more complete player and that would be Gasol. Dirk is a great scorer, but what else does he bring to the table?? He's too one-dimensional to ever lead a team anywhere significant, but the same can be said of Gasol. Nowtizki has had the far better career, but Gasol is currently the better player.
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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #24
                    Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

                    Definitely Dirk though I love both player's games.
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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #25
                      Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

                      Originally posted by JBH3
                      Dirk TRB/gm: 8.5
                      Pau TRB/gm: 9.0

                      Pau beats out Dirk in Off Boards because he plays closer to the hoop on offense, and isn't the #1 scoring option -- or shouldn't be the #1 scoring option (Memphis he was though).

                      Both on average over their careers have been good for a steal and block a game. Maybe w/ Pau you get 2 blocks, but neither like I said "tips the scale in their favor".



                      Because he makes his money inside, not from the perimeter like Dirk. Dirks big enough and has good enough footwork to where he can get buckets in the paint. He has an Olajuwon-esque fadeaway too... BUT unlike Pau doens't have to solely rely on playing close to the basket to make a giant impact. He can hover, and he can do so behind the arc as well.



                      Not range that would put him in Dirk's stratosphere. C'mon now...



                      There's no difference really. An outside presense for Pau (Kobe), gives him better looks inside. Personally, I'd rather have an unconvetional lineup that can give you fits and create mismatch problems. Dirk's ability to play more outside than Pau holds teams accountable for his presense out there, and they either got to give him too much space for an easy look or they play tight D and leave perhaps one of their best rebounders on the perimeter. If Dirk had a 5 who could score Dallas would be hard to account for.
                      You can show me stats all you want, but on the hardwood there is no way Dirk is touching Pau's rebounding. There is a clear edge, Pau definitely toughed up. I don't care why Pau is a better rebounder, just that he is.

                      Rebounding is huge when you play the PF or C. That's what wins in the playoffs. Defense and rebounding. Don't care about careers at all in this discussion, we're talking about right now. Dirk still hasn't really 'toughened' up in either defense nor rebounding.

                      Pau eclipses Dirk in both of those categories while at the same time is able to go inside and stroke from mid range.

                      Dirk's God-like perimeter game is awesome but it all comes back to styles.

                      'BUT unlike Pau doens't have to solely rely on playing close to the basket to make a giant impact. He can hover, and he can do so behind the arc as well.'
                      Now this raised my eyebrow. Pau hardly relies on being close to the basket to make a giant impact. I've already mentioned his passing out of the post, his face up jumper, face up game/two quick dribble to the bucket.

                      His versatility is the reason I pick him over Dirk. Also he's dare I say more rugged than Dirk. Defensively Dirk just leaves too much to be desired on the boards and in the paint.

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                      • NC State-31 UNC-27
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1525

                        #26
                        Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

                        Neither are going to win a championship by themselves obviously...

                        so I think I go with Pau. He doesn't need the ball to dominate games and I like him better as the sidekick. Put a couple shooters and a slasher around him.

                        I also feel like Dirks legs are going to give out on him sooner than later

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                        • ex carrabba fan
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #27
                          Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

                          Originally posted by NC State-31 UNC-27
                          Neither are going to win a championship by themselves obviously...

                          so I think I go with Pau. He doesn't need the ball to dominate games and I like him better as the sidekick. Put a couple shooters and a slasher around him.

                          I also feel like Dirks legs are going to give out on him sooner than later
                          That's basically what it comes down to, Dirk is closer to a batman than Pau is obviously, but Dirk really isn't in that class anymore with Wade/Kobe/LBJ and perhaps Durant.

                          He was for a few years though.

                          If you give me the option to pair Kobe or Wade or LBJ or insert superstar non big man with Dirk or Pau? I'm picking Pau 100/100 times.

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                          • Eman5805
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3545

                            #28
                            Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

                            I'm not a huge fan of either, which is to say I really don't like their games. I'd actually perfer Marc Gasol over his brother if I were given a choice here, but I'm not, so I'll just take Pau over Dirk.

                            At least Pau uses his length to block shots. Dirk gets ate up defensively by anyone with a modicum of a post game.

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                            • ex carrabba fan
                              I'll thank him for you
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 32744

                              #29
                              Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

                              Wait

                              So you think Marc>Pau>Dirk?

                              Some of you Hornet fans are something else

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                              • Moses Shuttlesworth
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                                • Aug 2006
                                • 9435

                                #30
                                Re: who would you rather have, Dirk or Pau?

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