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  • rangerrick012
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    • Jan 2010
    • 6201

    #16
    Re: "I Could Score 100."

    If Kobe scored 81, no doubt Jordan could have gotten 100 in today's NBA.
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    • Cebby
      Banned
      • Apr 2005
      • 22327

      #17
      Re: "I Could Score 100."

      Nobody will ever score 100 points.

      When Wilt did it he took 63 shots and 32 free throws.

      That's why nobody will ever do it.

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      • Jasong7777
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        • May 2005
        • 6415

        #18
        Re: "I Could Score 100."

        Mike should be worried about his Bobcats scoring 100 points in a game.
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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #19
          Re: "I Could Score 100."

          Originally posted by Rocky
          First, it's not like current players don't do the same thing against some of the defenses they see. That video showed me that MJ was great and could score against the double team, which we already knew, but didn't showcase any the defenses of today that include man to man defenses that converge into 2 and 3 man front zones that the Celtics use or various other options in a zone/man switch MID-play.

          I can recall an article in which MJ himself said that he would have a hard time putting up 30 with the defensive principles of Larry Brown and the Bobcats.

          Would MJ score alot of points? No doubt. But scoring 100 is big, big figure of speech.
          Stop trying to justify that wack statement you made.

          I just posted the video because of one reason only and it was because you said and I quote

          Never saw a zone defense either

          I just busted up the very beginning of your post with visual, player and coaches proof.

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          • Muzyk23
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 4192

            #20
            Re: "I Could Score 100."

            most of the teams today play average defence at best

            there are no teams today like Pistons, Knicks or Bulls of the past


            how many teams today are THAT organized and disciplined on defence like teams of the past were?!
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            • AlexBrady
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 3341

              #21
              Re: "I Could Score 100."

              Originally posted by Muzyk23
              most of the teams today play average defence at best

              there are no teams today like Pistons, Knicks or Bulls of the past


              how many teams today are THAT organized and disciplined on defence like teams of the past were?!
              These recent Celtic teams come to mind. Their defense is/was highly coordinated.
              By the way, zones are easily picked apart by good teams in this league. Ball reversals, baseline cutters, and an uptempo pace will shred a zone.

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              • Fiasco West
                MVP
                • Oct 2008
                • 2820

                #22
                Re: "I Could Score 100."

                Originally posted by Muzyk23
                most of the teams today play average defence at best

                there are no teams today like Pistons, Knicks or Bulls of the past


                how many teams today are THAT organized and disciplined on defence like teams of the past were?!
                I think this is irrelevant though. Because when we talk about Jordan scoring 100 points we shouldn't be talking about him vs the BEST defenses of today, but the worst. We are not talking about Jordan vs a Thibs coached defense or against the Lakers. We are talking about Jordan on some random night going off against the T'wolves or something.

                Kobe got his 81 against a bad Raptors team and Jordan could outdo him against the same caliber of team. Hard to say though. I do think he could do it, but if I had to choose i'm going to say nah.

                100 points is and I think for a long time will be a one time thing. Also Wilt...well I remember reading in a Slam mag some years ago Wilt is like Loch Ness Monster.

                This guy averaged 50ppg in a season...50 a game...not only that pretty much averaged over 20rpg according to the stats. This is how much better he was than everyone else.

                I think Jordan COULD do it but I don't see a team giving a player that many shots these days to do that.

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                • Rocky
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 6896

                  #23
                  Re: "I Could Score 100."

                  Originally posted by 23
                  Stop trying to justify that wack statement you made.

                  I just posted the video because of one reason only and it was because you said and I quote




                  I just busted up the very beginning of your post with visual, player and coaches proof.
                  Well, the topic was about could MJ score 100 today, so a logical person would assume I meant today's zone defenses. Seriously man, you know good and well I'm not talking about the college 1-2-2 trap. The 2 man fronts and traps where you have a help defender clog the lane would've been illegal defense in MJ's era. These are the same principles that teams use to force an increased amout of three's from roleplayers in today's NBA.

                  He wouldn't score 100 because he wouldn't get as many shots off while still helping his team win.
                  "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #24
                    Re: "I Could Score 100."

                    Originally posted by Rocky
                    Well, the topic was about could MJ score 100 today, so a logical person would assume I meant today's zone defenses. Seriously man, you know good and well I'm not talking about the college 1-2-2 trap. The 2 man fronts and traps where you have a help defender clog the lane would've been illegal defense in MJ's era. These are the same principles that teams use to force an increased amout of three's from roleplayers in today's NBA.

                    He wouldn't score 100 because he wouldn't get as many shots off while still helping his team win.
                    MJ is just talking probably off of a few things, what he faced, what he knows now, what he sees now, etc...

                    All in all, its a what if topic, but you still were wrong in your post regardless of the topic, thats all I was saying, because I dont think you watched him enough in the past to make that statement.

                    I mean, he faced them at the age of 40 did he not and still averaged 20ppg

                    Point being though, who really cares when it comes down to it. As soft as the league is today, with the way this guy got hot on some nights, there is no defense that would've stopped him, especially in his prime...

                    The younger MJ during one of the toughest eras to get into the lane averaged 37ppg. Think about how insane that is

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                    • Rocky
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 6896

                      #25
                      Re: "I Could Score 100."

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                      This is the first video from a blog I routinely visit...Larry Brown employs the same principle, but chooses to show his double teams alot later. Extremely effective with Wallace at the four and Diaw at the five. Similar defense that Jordan said he would have a tough time against.
                      "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
                      -Rocky Balboa

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #26
                        Re: &quot;I Could Score 100.&quot;

                        Give me a break man

                        Look at this video... This is an old man... OLD
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                        If he did that as an old man, halfway there, then why not?

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                        • SPTO
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #27
                          Re: &quot;I Could Score 100.&quot;

                          Jordan could easily score 100 against a Sam Mitchell coached team!

                          Seriously though Michael Jordan circa 1993 when he had EVERYTHING in his arsenal at or very damn close to its peak would have a legit shot at 100 in a game.
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                          • Streets
                            Supreme
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 5787

                            #28
                            Re: &quot;I Could Score 100.&quot;

                            Originally posted by Fiasco West
                            I think this is irrelevant though. Because when we talk about Jordan scoring 100 points we shouldn't be talking about him vs the BEST defenses of today, but the worst. We are not talking about Jordan vs a Thibs coached defense or against the Lakers. We are talking about Jordan on some random night going off against the T'wolves or something.

                            Kobe got his 81 against a bad Raptors team and Jordan could outdo him against the same caliber of team. Hard to say though. I do think he could do it, but if I had to choose i'm going to say nah.
                            This. Not every team can throw out zones, has the discipline, or even the personnel that the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs, etc. have. For every team that has defense down to a science, there are others that are god awful and don't know the first thing about stopping guys.

                            We can look at Jordan in his era against the very best defensive teams he played against, and we can look at how those great teams who game-planned for him got torched. We can look at Jordan at his very best, and imagine him against this (much softer) NBA's very worst. No one is saying he'd average 100 or drop a 100 on the Celtics, but could he do it once, against a team that doesn't play D, or that's up-tempo, or tanking (or all three)? All those huge numbers he put up? He can't get 19 more than Kobe in this era? Please.

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                            • da ThRONe
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                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8528

                              #29
                              Re: &quot;I Could Score 100.&quot;

                              And I could win the "World series of Poker". Could Jordan drop a hundo on a bad team sure. Is it likely not. Kobe in my opinion is a more pure scorer than Jordan and could only(not sure only is the best word LOL) put up 81 points in a game once and a HOF career. Which means he was still 19 points shy of reaching that number. Scoring 19 points is hard enough in a NBA game.

                              Jordan is one of my least favorite player of all times and it because of statements like this. Dude has always come off as an a**hole to me. Yet people always give him a pass. He is the consensus best player of all time. At this point he shouldnt have anything to prove.
                              Last edited by da ThRONe; 10-15-2010, 01:07 PM.
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                              • KG
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                                • Sep 2005
                                • 17583

                                #30
                                Re: &quot;I Could Score 100.&quot;

                                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                                And I could win the "World series of Poker". Could Jordan drop a hundo on a bad team sure. Is it likely not. Kobe in my opinion is a more pure scorer than Jordan and could only(not sure only is the best word LOL) put up 81 points in a game once and a HOF career. Which means he was still 19 points shy of reaching that number. Scoring 19 points is hard enough in a NBA game.

                                Jordan is one of my least favorite player of all times and it because of statements like this. Dude has always come off as an a**hole to me. Yet people always give him a pass. He is the consensus best player of all time. At this point he shouldnt have anything to prove.
                                I have completely separated MJ the player from MJ the person in my mind. I detest the latter.
                                Last edited by KG; 10-15-2010, 01:18 PM.
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