"I Could Score 100."

[Muzyk23]

Re: "I Could Score 100."

The worst teams of the past are still way better than the worst teams of the present.

I guess next year ppl will start making threads how today's Nba is better defensively than the 80s or 90s era.

Imagine Jordan in his prime against lets say Wolves of today. It equals a massacre. I say 35 points on free throws alone with today's touch fouls and preferential treatment Jordan received from refs.

[LingeringRegime]

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Exactly 23. I wonder how many people in this thread read the WHOLE article.

[RonnieG]

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No those rule changes happened in the mid 00s. And there were previous revisions to handchecking but none of it had teeth until the rule changes that were outlined above.

Kobe played half of his career when there was handchecking but it was after these rule changes when his scoring outputs increased. Its not a coincidence.

Incorrect sir

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/david_aldridge/04/22/aldridge.defenses/index.html

Im guessing this is the part youre referring to? If so, you might want to re-read my post that you quoted and pay more attention to the part Ive highlighted with red.

Hand checking was eliminated in 1994. Using the forearm to defend players facing the basket went away in 1997.

Once again, this was all discussed in an interview I read with Stu Jackson after the rule changes from the 00s went into effect (aside from remembering watching it). If the previous handchecking rules were effective, there would have been little/no need to make the ones in the 00s. Once again, I addressed that.

[Jesus]

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Im guessing this is the part youre referring to? If so, you might want to re-read my post that you quoted and pay more attention to the part Ive highlighted with red.



Once again, this was all discussed in an interview I read with Stu Jackson after the rule changes from the 00s went into effect (aside from remembering watching it). If the previous handchecking rules were effective, there would have been little/no need to make the ones in the 00s. Once again, I addressed that.

Riiiight...how about you show me the ones from the 00's, because you are referencing it quite a bit.

[RonnieG]

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Riiiight...how about you show me the ones from the 00's, because you are referencing it quite a bit.

You dont know how to google?

[Jesus]

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You dont know how to google?

In a civil debate one makes a point and provides evidence...i provided mine, i would expect the same of you.

I suppose my expectations were a bit too high then.

[st0rmb11]

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Honestly this discussion has turned into another typical nba forum discussion

Whether he could score 100 or not we'll never know. There are only certain factors we could speculate on

Then again the context of the convo might even be taken out of the context, for one its not the entire conversation and you know how the press loves to conjure stuff up and 2.. the OP left out stuff like

How has the game changed from your playing days?
It's less physical and the rules have changed, obviously. Based on these rules, if I had to play with my style of play, I'm pretty sure I would have fouled out or I would have been at the free throw line pretty often and I could have scored 100 points.


That said, carry on with the petty arguments.

I didn't leave anything out. I just posted the "I could score 100" part as the title because I knew it would get the debate going. I read the entire article, and posted the link so everyone else could do the same thing. (should have known better than to assume that people would read the entire article and understand the context of his statement).

but back to the discussion. Jordan dropped 50 under today's rules at almost 40. relying almost entirely on jumpshots. I have no doubt that in his prime he could mix up a blend of jumpers and drives to get to 100. think about the number of 3 point plays he would get. he wouldn't have to fire up 3's.
I mean, in that same article that Jesus posted about the rules change, Larry Brown said Jordan could average 50 a game today.


Not sure who was just watching Around The Horn, but this topic came up in the "Show Down" between Cowlishaw and Adande, and they are both of the belief that he could do it.


EDIT - for those who never visited the yahoo! article, on it, there is a link to this (the actual interview). take out the part about the "I could score 100", it's still a good read.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/10/michael-jordan-and-2k-sports-talk-nba-2k11-/1

[RonnieG]

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I didn't leave anything out. I just posted the "I could score 100" part as the title because I knew it would get the debate going. I read the entire article, and posted the link so everyone else could do the same thing. (should have known better than to assume that people would read the entire article and understand the context of his statement).

but back to the discussion. Jordan dropped 50 under today's rules at almost 40. relying almost entirely on jumpshots. I have no doubt that in his prime he could mix up a blend of jumpers and drives to get to 100. think about the number of 3 point plays he would get. he wouldn't have to fire up 3's.
I mean, in that same article that Jesus posted about the rules change, Larry Brown said Jordan could average 50 a game today.


Not sure who was just watching Around The Horn, but this topic came up in the "Show Down" between Cowlishaw and Adande, and they are both of the belief that he could do it.


EDIT - for those who never visited the yahoo! article, on it, there is a link to this (the actual interview). take out the part about the "I could score 100", it's still a good read.
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...lk-nba-2k11-/1

With that in mind, Im glad Jordan made this comment. Ive long thought that and the rules changes and the way the game is played now vs then is something that often gets overlooked when making comparisons. Countless times you hear guys like Marc Jackson hype Kobe by making flawed comparisons to Jordan. And the thing that sucks is that Kobe's an awesome player and so he kind of becomes a victim of Marc Jackson saying something stupid. I think a lot of people would appreciate Kobe a lot more if they would just avoid comparisons because, sadly, a lot of the people just seem to operate under the flawed assumption that its all the same and both eras had offsetting advantages and disadvantages that made it even, when this couldnt be more untrue. Just look at this thread. Half of it is myth debunking. You have guys who dont know that they did play zones back in the day. You have people who dont understand what handchecking is and when they made rules that REALLY crack down on it. You have people who know nothing of the defensive three second rule. And theyll just say anything that makes pretty much all of the above obvious.

[st0rmb11]

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It's all over ESPN today, apparently. Can't let them get a hold of a story like this...pretty soon they'll be asking LeBron, Wade, Kobe, etc. whether or not he could do it.

They talked about it on PTI and they opened up SportsCenter with a mention of it.

[RonnieG]

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It's all over ESPN today, apparently. Can't let them get a hold of a story like this...pretty soon they'll be asking LeBron, Wade, Kobe, etc. whether or not he could do it.

They talked about it on PTI and they opened up SportsCenter with a mention of it.

Im pretty sure it will be something like this:

Q: Dwyane, what do you think of Michael Jordans comments that he could score 100 points today?

DW: Charles Barkley changed teams to pursue winning a championship, so why cant LeBron. And please don't ask me about the World Trade Center...Wait a second...what?

[23]

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I didn't leave anything out. I just posted the "I could score 100" part as the title because I knew it would get the debate going. I read the entire article, and posted the link so everyone else could do the same thing. (should have known better than to assume that people would read the entire article and understand the context of his statement).

but back to the discussion. Jordan dropped 50 under today's rules at almost 40. relying almost entirely on jumpshots. I have no doubt that in his prime he could mix up a blend of jumpers and drives to get to 100. think about the number of 3 point plays he would get. he wouldn't have to fire up 3's.
I mean, in that same article that Jesus posted about the rules change, Larry Brown said Jordan could average 50 a game today.


Not sure who was just watching Around The Horn, but this topic came up in the "Show Down" between Cowlishaw and Adande, and they are both of the belief that he could do it.


EDIT - for those who never visited the yahoo! article, on it, there is a link to this (the actual interview). take out the part about the "I could score 100", it's still a good read.
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...lk-nba-2k11-/1

Im not accusing you of starting a riot lol...

Im saying this is a quote from an old NBA2k11 story but the only thing being taken out of context is this one piece of a quote.

No one is mentioning him saying anything about the rule changes, the less physical game or the fact that he said he'd probably foul out.

[st0rmb11]

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Im not accusing you of starting a riot lol...

Im saying this is a quote from an old NBA2k11 story but the only thing being taken out of context is this one piece of a quote.

No one is mentioning him saying anything about the rule changes, the less physical game or the fact that he said he'd probably foul out.

Didn't take it that way, though I did think you were saying that I was partly at fault because I didn't mention other parts of the story in the original post. My misunderstanding. My bad.

[King_B_Mack]

Haven't had a chance to read the article since I'm out of town and here on the cell, but reading through this thread, I can't believe no one has brought it up. Does Spike Lee still attend Knicks games? U trying to tell me with as awful as the Knicks have been this decade and Spike sitting front row, combined with the rules of today, GOAT couldn't or at the least wouldnt try to break out the super whooping stick in MSG at some point? Have we forgot the thread that was up here not too long ago following the Bulls during the 72 win year where he started goin off in the game because of some fan trash talking him? Have we forgotten the Blazer game where he started knocking down threes just to prove a point? He could definitely do it.

[st0rmb11]

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I remember talking about this with someone not long ago....about how Jordan is the only person that we've ever seen WILL something to happen. Like, just to prove a point, he would go out and knock down 6 or 7 threes..just because someone said he couldn't. I think if enough people said "he can't get that many points", MJ would go out and drop 50 in a half just to prove that if he really wanted to, he could do it.

like, people say "Jordan is no where near the 3 point shooter that Kobe is, and Kobe only got to 81." That's just the kind of thing that would make Jordan go out and knocked down 7 or 8 in a game, just to show he could if he wanted to.

[Rocky]

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Exactly 23. I wonder how many people in this thread read the WHOLE article.

I read the whole article....and Jordan just didn't think his answer all the way through or said something to get a rise. We were talking about this very thing on the Charlotte boards, when Jordan said contradictory statements in the past. It's not that big of a deal really though, I think it was just a figure of speech.

But most teams in the NBA today are good defensive teams....the Cavs (w/Lebron), Bobcats, Bucks, Spurs, Celtics, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Magic, Blazers, Hawks, Heat, etc. who unless MJ got really hot, scoring 100 against is absolutely out of the question. It's just not logical.