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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #46
    Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
    Eventually people will get tired of just seeing those same teams year in/year out though.
    I doubt it Pack, baseball ratings show people never get tired of seeing the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, etc in baseball. People don't get tired of seeing LA or Boston in the NBA either.
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    • keRplunK
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 4080

      #47
      Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

      Originally posted by hokupguy
      why there making tons of $$$ there, every game has been sold out since they got there. The city loves the team. Went to a game there last season , when i was there on bussiness. It was like being at a UNC Vs duke game. Very much the college crowd feel.
      Wait until the franchise is entrenched and old-news. Durant retires, the team goes through a transitional lull, the fans will stop coming out as often, and the NBA will ship them away as quickly as they can. It's all about maximizing profit. It's not a foregone conclusion, maybe local circumstances will allow them to be profitable, but if not, they are gone (and being such a small market stacks the deck against them).

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      • eDotd
        We ain't cool de la?
        • Jul 2006
        • 6284

        #48
        Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

        Originally posted by RonnieG
        BTW, I think what will be interesting going forward is the WNBA. Im not sure if its profitable or not but its hard to imagine that it is. If the WNBA is not profitable, anything Stern says rings hollow while he instsists on carrying that league. It would also be interesting to see if the media actually starts questioning the existence of the WNBA. There are a lot of agendas in the media and a lot of people that wont want to go near asking the pointed questions about the WNBA.
        I don't think the WNBA has been ever been profitable.

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        • RonnieG
          Banned
          • Sep 2010
          • 221

          #49
          Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

          Originally posted by ehh
          I doubt it Pack, baseball ratings show people never get tired of seeing the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, etc in baseball. People don't get tired of seeing LA or Boston in the NBA either.

          Actually, with the New York, Boston, LA and Philadelphia frequently in the playoffs, MLB is going up against bad monday night games and losing. With all the big market teams routinely in the playoffs, MLB has become a weeknight sport and gets crushed when it goes up against football.

          Baseball is kind of a dying sport and a major reason is that no one cares about it outside of the Boston, NY, St Louis, Chicago, or if it involves your team.

          Granted, MLB has the misfortune of going up against the NFL in a way that the NBA doesnt (ie the NBAs postseason doesnt conflict with the NFL, unless the draft is on). But still, MLB is not the model the NBA should be following.

          A couple of years ago when the Lakers played the Celtics, they still only did like a 9, which is still only half of what the NBA was getting during the Jordan era. The NBA wants the fans that stopped watching during the Jordan era. The NBA has been trying to get back to that. The NBA may never get back to the popularity it was at during the Jordan era but if the Lakers-Celtics is only doing half of that, theres a lot of room for improvement and it also kind of suggests that the Celtics-Lakers alone may not be enough.

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          • Chrisksaint
            $$$
            • Apr 2010
            • 19127

            #50
            Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

            From what I hear due to the pending sale from Shinn to Chouset the Hornets wouldn't be seriously considered for contraction.

            Oh and lol @ the idea of moving the Thunder, the NBA realized OKC was a profitable area when people showed up to Hornets games when it wasn't even their own team
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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #51
              Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

              Nobody is being seriously considered for contraction right now. It's just talk to try and get something going.
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              • Taur3asi3
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 3727

                #52
                Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                The league is bluffing they don't have the balls to get rid of 4-6 teams. This has to be posturing to get the salaries reduced to something the PA can tolerate or whatever else they want. If the NBA did cut up to 6 teams then I guess someone would attempt to create a new league.
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                • snepp
                  We'll waste him too.
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 10007

                  #53
                  Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                  Originally posted by RonnieG
                  Baseball is kind of a dying sport and a major reason is that no one cares about it outside of the Boston, NY, St Louis, Chicago, or if it involves your team.

                  MLB attendance and media contracts are better than ever and growing, fantastic signs that it's "dying."
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                  • NC State-31 UNC-27
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1525

                    #54
                    Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                    contraction isn't happening, it's posturing.

                    if by some reason it did happen, it would be 2 teams max.

                    I would like to see the draft order reversed personally. Best teams choose first. No more rewards for being a crappy franchise. Maybe if they went to 24 teams this wouldn't be an issue though

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                    • hokupguy
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5615

                      #55
                      Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                      Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                      From what I hear due to the pending sale from Shinn to Chouset the Hornets wouldn't be seriously considered for contraction.

                      Oh and lol @ the idea of moving the Thunder, the NBA realized OKC was a profitable area when people showed up to Hornets games when it wasn't even their own team
                      i sure a read some where that deal was dead , who ever the buyer was backed out at the last min.
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                      • VanCitySportsGuy
                        NYG_Meth
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 9351

                        #56
                        Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                        If the league is really losing money and asking the players to take a major paycut than Stern should lead by example and slash his own salary.

                        Instead of blaming the players for making too much money, Stern needs to ask his bosses why they continue to give out silly contracts. Guys like Gooden, Fyre, Outlaw, Johnson, etc.. signed for millions of dollars this off-season.

                        Stern is also a idiot for talking about this issue so much when the season is about to start.

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                        • RonnieG
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 221

                          #57
                          Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                          Originally posted by snepp
                          MLB attendance and media contracts are better than ever and growing, fantastic signs that it's "dying."
                          Yet, when its Monday night and theres a playoff game, a 31-3 football game between the Titans and Jags gets better ratings. Sorry, but I doubt thats something the networks are thrilled with. And one of the reasons is that interest is waning. Licensed stuff only really sells in the core baseball places that I mentioned.

                          In a lot of places that have major league teams, they have ridiculously cheap tickets and the ball parks are still empty on a regular basis. As far as the Cubs go, there are a lot of people who only keep purchasing season tickets because they dont want to miss out if the Cubs ever win a WS. Other than that, a lot of Cubs fans wouldnt even be as committed to going to games.

                          Also, while advertisers/networks may like the Yankees and Red Sox all the time, its because theres less risk. The sport is too far along. The networks arent interested in the sport cultivating interest in less attractive markets on their dime. And because they overpay, MLB surrenders power to TV and advertisers.
                          Last edited by RonnieG; 10-25-2010, 12:09 AM.

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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #58
                            Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                            Originally posted by RonnieG
                            Actually, with the New York, Boston, LA and Philadelphia frequently in the playoffs, MLB is going up against bad monday night games and losing. With all the big market teams routinely in the playoffs, MLB has become a weeknight sport and gets crushed when it goes up against football.
                            That's because it's baseball vs football, it has nothing to do with the big market teams playing in MLB. You think having the Royals vs the Marlins in the World Series would magically make the MLB get higher ratings than the NFL? Let's be real here.
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                            • Eman5805
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3545

                              #59
                              Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                              Kind of irks me that most people have said the Hornets, but whatever. I'm used to people ishing on us. Doesn't matter, this seems like a negotiating ploy more than anything.

                              And Stern would get absolutely slammed for taking a professional basketball team off the gulf coast.

                              Originally posted by hokupguy
                              i sure a read some where that deal was dead , who ever the buyer was backed out at the last min.
                              http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...ve-chris-paul/
                              That was already refuted the day after it happened. I can't find a link, but the word was "erroneous" in the Times-Picayune.

                              And seriously, I have a tough time buying anything that the New York media says about the Hornets, because they want CP3 to be a Knick.

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                              • CYST2000
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 555

                                #60
                                Re: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

                                I don't see the Pacers going away, because of the fact that Indy is still a top twenty market, and the Field House is still relatively new. The only problem with the league is the league is biased towards stars, and does not give the best teams a chance, but gives the stars the rotten run of it, which is what someone else said earlier in the thread.

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