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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #556
    Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by da ThRONe
    WOW cant lie I thought we would drop this one. 5-0 for the first time ever. All against the better teams of the league. Hopefully Bogut is still out when we play the Bucks.
    He won't be, he'll be in there. Just had a migraine, he's missed a few games here and there with migraines. They come and go with him.

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    • elprez98
      MVP
      • Dec 2003
      • 4237

      #557
      Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

      I'm so glad my boy CP is back to reclaim his throne.
      Originally posted by My Wife
      "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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      • tehova
        b**-r*y
        • Mar 2003
        • 3694

        #558
        Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

        the suns bench is way better than their starters
        Ericmaynor3.com

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        • Dewie12
          Banned
          • Jul 2010
          • 787

          #559
          Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by mKoz26
          So now Shawn Marion was a slasher and scorer/closer? Okay.

          People will say anything for the sake of supporting their arguments. Gosh darn.

          Don't get me wrong, I like Marion, and he was a great defender (great), but he was not a slasher by any means and certainly not a scorer/closer.

          And J-Rich was not on those good Phoenix teams.
          What? What teams are you talking about? THe Suns just made the Western Conference Finals last year....not good?

          Dude Marion was a slasher off of Nash creating. The Bulls don't have that is my point. Derrick Rose has no one to slash, shoot or finish off of his creations.

          I have no idea what you are talking about closing from a PG. What do you want Rose to do that Nash did then?

          Checkout the latest stats of Shawn Marion. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, shoots, school and more on Basketball-Reference.com


          Marion averaged 20 ppg with the Suns.....again what are you talking about.....
          Last edited by Dewie12; 11-05-2010, 11:12 PM.

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          • HMcCoy
            All Star
            • Jan 2003
            • 8212

            #560
            Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

            Cavs.
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            • Dewie12
              Banned
              • Jul 2010
              • 787

              #561
              Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by tehova
              the suns bench is way better than their starters
              Agree completely. Dragic > Nash too. At least for this current Phoenix team.

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              • da ThRONe
                Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                • Mar 2009
                • 8528

                #562
                Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by roadman
                He won't be, he'll be in there. Just had a migraine, he's missed a few games here and there with migraines. They come and go with him.
                Ohwell so much for that. Should be a good one Mil. is winning at home so I don't feel great about this game.
                You looking at the Chair MAN!

                Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                • mKoz26
                  In case you forgot...
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4685

                  #563
                  Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Dewie12
                  What? What teams are you talking about? THe Suns just made the Western Conference Finals last year....not good?

                  Dude Marion was a slasher off of Nash creating. The Bulls don't have that is my point. Derrick Rose has no one to slash, shoot or finish of his creations.

                  I have no idea what you are talking about closing from a PG. What do you want Rose to do that Nash did then?

                  Checkout the latest stats of Shawn Marion. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, shoots, school and more on Basketball-Reference.com


                  Marion averaged 20 ppg with the Suns.....again what are you talking about.....
                  Marion scored transition points with the Suns and played defense. He didn't just take guys off the dribble like a typical "slasher" would.

                  Marion scored his fair share of points, but wasn't really a "scorer".

                  And what I meant by "good" Suns teams was just the Steve Nash MVP-ish years. I'm not trying to downplay their other accomplishments.

                  If you remember those years, you'll remember Steve Nash hitting clutch threes all the time (ridiculous overtime game against I forget who comes to mind) and doing it off the pick-and-roll. And I'm not saying Rose can be the guy who hits those threes. What I am saying is that a PG can be a closer, and it has happened before. That's all.

                  Bumi has this idea that no PG can ever be a closer and that no team led by their PG can win it all. It's just not true.
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                  @CDonkey26

                  Originally posted by baumy300
                  Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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                  • Dewie12
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 787

                    #564
                    Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by mKoz26
                    Marion scored transition points with the Suns and played defense. He didn't just take guys off the dribble like a typical "slasher" would.
                    A slasher is someone who can get to the cup, with or without the ball in their hands. Marion did this all the time.

                    I will just leave the rest of this alone because I have no idea what point you are trying to make about who are "closers".

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                    • Bumi
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 967

                      #565
                      Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by mKoz26
                      So now Shawn Marion was a slasher and scorer/closer? Okay.

                      People will say anything for the sake of supporting their arguments. Gosh darn.

                      Don't get me wrong, I like Marion, and he was a great defender (great), but he was not a slasher by any means and certainly not a scorer/closer.

                      And J-Rich was not on those good Phoenix teams.
                      The Suns have made the western conference finals more than one time with Nash as the PG. Secondly, yes, Marion was a slasher/scorer during the height of his career with Phoenix. Jason Richardson fit that role last season.

                      And then there was Amare, who was, and remains, an elite scoring big.

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                      • tehova
                        b**-r*y
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3694

                        #566
                        Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Dewie12
                        Agree completely. Dragic > Nash too. At least for this current Phoenix team.

                        why do they even attempt to throw that conventional starting line up to start the game
                        Ericmaynor3.com

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                        • Bumi
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 967

                          #567
                          Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by mKoz26
                          Marion scored transition points with the Suns and played defense. He didn't just take guys off the dribble like a typical "slasher" would.

                          Marion scored his fair share of points, but wasn't really a "scorer".

                          And what I meant by "good" Suns teams was just the Steve Nash MVP-ish years. I'm not trying to downplay their other accomplishments.

                          If you remember those years, you'll remember Steve Nash hitting clutch threes all the time (ridiculous overtime game against I forget who comes to mind) and doing it off the pick-and-roll. And I'm not saying Rose can be the guy who hits those threes. What I am saying is that a PG can be a closer, and it has happened before. That's all.

                          Bumi has this idea that no PG can ever be a closer and that no team led by their PG can win it all. It's just not true.
                          Nash was a moderate scorer and elite facilitator. He WAS NOT his teams primary scoring threat. Derrick Rose on the other hand, is.

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                          • mKoz26
                            In case you forgot...
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 4685

                            #568
                            Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Dewie12
                            A slasher is someone who can get to the cup, with or without the ball in their hands. Marion did this all the time.

                            I will just leave the rest of this alone because I have no idea what point you are trying to make about who are "closers".
                            Marion "got to the cup" in the transition game. He was not a slasher in the traditional sense. He was not an effective slasher in the half-court game.

                            And most of my post was directed towards Bumi, hence the closer part. He claimed Phoenix had a closer not named Steve Nash, and said it was either Amare or Marion. I assume he would take Marion out of the two because Amare isn't really a ball handler.

                            Again, the only part of the post originally directed at you was the part about Marion being a slasher.
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                            @CDonkey26

                            Originally posted by baumy300
                            Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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                            • Eman5805
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3545

                              #569
                              Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by elprez98
                              I'm so glad my boy CP is back to reclaim his throne.
                              He's just been away from his castle and pretenders have sat in his chair cuz some people fool themselves into thinking they're good enough.

                              But CP3'll set 'em all straight.

                              Kenny Smith and co. can eat it.

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                              • mKoz26
                                In case you forgot...
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 4685

                                #570
                                Re: 11/1-11/7 Game Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Bumi
                                Nash was a moderate scorer and elite facilitator. He WAS NOT his teams primary scoring threat. Derrick Rose on the other hand, is.
                                In crunch time, Steve Nash was the primary scoring threat.

                                And wait a second, you just told us Boozer won't help Rose in late-game situations. How can you turn around and say Steve Nash (another pick and roll guard) was helped by Amare (another a pick and roll forward)?

                                And I still don't know where you got the idea that Shawn Marion was a "slasher/scorer". That would imply that he created his own shots.
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                                @CDonkey26

                                Originally posted by baumy300
                                Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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