How far is too far for KG?

[King_B_Mack]

Re: How far is too far for KG?

I don't know about the bitch part but he's definitely a sucka IMO for running onto Twitter crying about it when it wasn't even necessary(which I still don't understand the point of doing that).

All this talk about "If I'd see him in the ring, I'd embarrass him" or whatever, ain't no need to US that or post that on Twitter. Be about what you're gonna say or just STFU about it and move on.

I don't really follow that either though PP about him being a sucka and running to Twitter. I didn't see the game as I was at work. But reading through the account of things, they were jawing with each other on the court and got T'd up right? Obviously there are those that will have wondered what was said and guys post everything on Twitter anyway so why is he all of a sudden out of line for voicing his displeasure on something that happened during the game? Guys were posting on Twitter from the locker rooms at halftime and we have a problem with him posting something that bothered him? I guess the exposing him part is a little much, but I don't see it as him running to Twitter, or being a sucka or a bitch or anything. I could see if he didn't say anything to Garnett the whole night and then jumped on Twitter with all of this, but they apparently were jawing back and forth the whole night so.....seriously.

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Wow. Alright look, what KG said was in bad taste. I think most of us get that. It's not cool to say things like that.

With that said, when playing sports, and competing at a high level, nothing is really off limits. It's a mind game. Don't let your opponent get in your head. I shave my head and friends tease me about it. Big deal, I didn't let it get to me and the teasing stopped. One of my brother's friends once asked me, "When did your treatments start?" I laughed. Not because cancer is funny, but because I recognized that he was just trying to get under my skin. Maybe I shouldn't use that analogy but really, it comes down to the same thing. Don't let people get to you. Especially in sports.

KG might or might not be a punk. He is competitive, that's for sure. He's had a great career and I respect his talent. I'm not going to get up in arms over a comment he made in the heat of battle in order to get under an opponent's skin. Again, I'm not saying it was the right thing to do, but I recognize it for what it is and I'm not going to get bent out of shape about it.

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Why is CV a bitch in all of this though for real? If KG was just talking his usual trash or any of the trash guys talk on the court that's one thing, but getting at dude about his appearance is another. Trash talking is usually about things within people's control or jabs that get under people's skin just enough to throw them off they're game. Trash talking Brian Scalabrine by calling him Jackie Moon is no big deal because that really isn't offensive because he could help that at least. Clowing someone about their game, that's no big deal. Going at someone's girl or mom, that's no big deal. However if you're going at someone's mom knowing she's dead, that's another thing and you aren't being a bitch for having a problem with it. Someone going at you for a medical condition that makes your appearance different from other people is something you have no control over and is crossing a line.

I have a cousin who has alopecia (what Charlie V has) he's been bald since his freshman year of high school in addition to some changes in the pigmentation of his skin. If someone is insulting you about your appearance and it's not just poor cosmetic judgement on your part, you're not a bitch for "crying" about it. I'm sure if a player had some obvious form of mental ******ation that made them walk and talk funny and someone was going at him and he complained about it no one would be saying he was being a bitch.

But that's some of the best trash talk! Either on the court or just hanging out with buddies. I've had my appearance ripped on. No big deal. Be confident in who you are and to hell with what anyone else thinks.

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So are there any bounds in trash talk? Everything is acceptable? We ALL know its trash talk, but some think there's a fine line you don't cross.

Then don't play. Honestly, sports, especially at the professional level, are highly competitive. Guys like Payton, Jordan, Tuss, Bird... I bet they were absolutely ruthless with their trash talk on the court and nothing was off limits. They just didn't live in the age where you could jump on the computer and let millions of people know about it. Brutal trash talk has gone on forever and it will continue to do so. We're just more PC now and in-tune with people's feelings so we want to get mad about it. Again, I'm not saying it's right, but damn, it is what it is.

[thebesteva_22]

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Wow. Alright look, what KG said was in bad taste. I think most of us get that. It's not cool to say things like that.

With that said, when playing sports, and competing at a high level, nothing is really off limits. It's a mind game. Don't let your opponent get in your head. I shave my head and friends tease me about it. Big deal, I didn't let it get to me and the teasing stopped. One of my brother's friends once asked me, "When did your treatments start?" I laughed. Not because cancer is funny, but because I recognized that he was just trying to get under my skin. Maybe I shouldn't use that analogy but really, it comes down to the same thing. Don't let people get to you. Especially in sports.

KG might or might not be a punk. He is competitive, that's for sure. He's had a great career and I respect his talent. I'm not going to get up in arms over a comment he made in the heat of battle in order to get under an opponent's skin. Again, I'm not saying it was the right thing to do, but I recognize it for what it is and I'm not going to get bent out of shape about it.

You have the choice of shaving your head, its not like you are forced to shave your head. You dont have cancer or some sort of disease that makes you shave your head, the fact that KG called him out on somthing he had no control over is bs.

[Jesus]

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OK, It seems like many of you are running for office or something lol

The fact of the matter is....he looks like a cancer patient lol

Why is it funny? Cause its true lmao

Im not sure how this is a slap in the face of cancer survivors are those struggling with it.

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OK, It seems like many of you are running for office or something lol

The fact of the matter is....he looks like a cancer patient lol

Why is it funny? Cause its true lmao

Im not sure how this is a slap in the face of cancer survivors are those struggling with it.

That's the thing that I want to make clear, at least with me... It's *not* funny. It's ill-advised trash talk, but it's still trash talk. I know CV didn't like it, but he just opened himself up pretty good...

[Jesus]

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That's the thing that I want to make clear, at least with me... It's *not* funny. It's ill-advised trash talk, but it's still trash talk. I know CV didn't like it, but he just opened himself up pretty good...

What was so "ill-advised" about it?

He made a very accurate comparison....is Charlie so ugly that the comparison is an insult to all who have Cancer? lmao

what about " you shoot like a girl".... should women activists be at the game with signs next?

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You have the choice of shaving your head, its not like you are forced to shave your head. You dont have cancer or some sort of disease that makes you shave your head, the fact that KG called him out on somthing he had no control over is bs.

Never said it wasn't BS... but my point is that trash talk is ruthless. I never said KG was right, it was a dick move. This is sports, people. Competition. Unless the NBA, NFL, MLB or NHL wants to start implementing some sort of conduct policy while participating, this is nothing more than something to argue about. It shouldn't have been said, but it was. Again, ruthless trash talk. Getting an edge. Doing whatever you have to do to get under your opponent's skin. What's the solution here? Fine KG? He's already dog meat in the court of public opinion, what more do people want? He's a bad person, I guess. What's the use of arguing about it anymore?

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What was so "ill-advised" about it?

He made a very accurate comparison....is Charlie so ugly that the comparison is an insult to all who have Cancer? lmao

what about " you shoot like a girl".... should women activists be at the game with signs next?

What was so ill-advised about it? It shouldn't have been said. I think most reasonable people can admit to that.

I'm not going to get in a bickering match with you, so drop it. I see both sides of the coin. If you don't, that's fine.

[Jesus]

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What was so ill-advised about it? It shouldn't have been said. I think most reasonable people can admit to that.

I'm not going to get in a bickering match with you, so drop it. I see both sides of the coin. If you don't, that's fine.

A debate isnt "bickering"....but in any event you didnt explain your reasoning, so that speaks volumes.

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A debate isnt "bickering"....but in any event you didnt explain your reasoning, so that speaks volumes.

Actually, I did. I just don't need to spell it out. It didn't need to be said. If you need it to be completely spelled out for you, then I can't and won't help you. Common sense has to kick in at some point, no? I've basically agreed with your whole argument, minus the rude remarks you made. So let's agree to... agree. Good enough?

[Jesus]

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Actually, I did. I just don't need to spell it out. It didn't need to be said. If you need it to be completely spelled out for you, then I can't and won't help you. Common sense has to kick in at some point, no? I've basically agreed with your whole argument, minus the rude remarks you made. So let's agree to... agree. Good enough?

I never questioned if you agreed with the other things I said.

And saying that it was wrong to say is far from an explanation or even a general idea of the reasoning behind the feeling, but it is what it is...

[King_B_Mack]

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But that's some of the best trash talk! Either on the court or just hanging out with buddies. I've had my appearance ripped on. No big deal. Be confident in who you are and to hell with what anyone else thinks.

Confidence in one's self isn't the issue here, I, nor my cousin, nor Charlie V are lacking for confidence in ourselves but if you have are obviously physically different from what 'normal' looks like then it's understandable for you to be a bit sensitive about people making sure they point out your glaring flaws that aren't any fault of your own.

There's a lot of things said on the court or field of sports to try to get in people's head, that doesn't give it a pass for being said. The 'heat of battle' argument is being grossly misused in this situation. In the heat of battle, getting into a shoving match or throwing a punch or two at someone is expected, in the heat of battle and showing your emotion at a big play or bad call is expected, racial slurs and insensitive remarks about people's dead relatives and legit medical conditions is just a douchebag shining through in an environment they feel provides adequate excuse room for the pathetic crap that comes out of their mouthes on a regular basis.

It's also getting old seeing people just drop the gems of "Jordan/Payton/Magic/Any random pre-internet explosion athlete would be hated/not as popular/whatever is affecting a current player if people knew what they did thanks to the internet now." Considering no one EVER gives examples of what they're talking about. I'm not saying those guys didn't talk trash cause we know they did, but in comparing they're trash talk with this debacle I wanna see some exact quotes, links to where YOU know for a fact that what was being said was worse than this as opposed to this BS of just showing up and giving the old grounded 12 year old excuse of 'but everyone is doing it!'

Never said it wasn't BS... but my point is that trash talk is ruthless. I never said KG was right, it was a dick move. This is sports, people. Competition. Unless the NBA, NFL, MLB or NHL wants to start implementing some sort of conduct policy while participating, this is nothing more than something to argue about. It shouldn't have been said, but it was. Again, ruthless trash talk. Getting an edge. Doing whatever you have to do to get under your opponent's skin. What's the solution here? Fine KG? He's already dog meat in the court of public opinion, what more do people want? He's a bad person, I guess. What's the use of arguing about it anymore?

And here's the problem. Every single time someone says or does something stupid and debate is sparked from it, there's someone who rolls up on the discussion with this line of thinking. It's called holding people accountable for the BS they do. If every time something goes down we just say...'oh well it is what it is. No point in arguing about it now.' Exactly what in the hell is going to hold people accountable for this kind of stuff and make them think twice about doing it again?

[Vince]

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LOL at the people in this thread.

"He looks like a cancer patient"

some real ignorant stuff right there.