11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

[Speedy]

Re: 11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

To me, it's how he left, not that he left.

My statement was sarcasm meant toward Scott...But I agree -- if LJ left and stated he wanted to go to Miami and didn't do any of the other "extracirriculars" then there wouldn't be nearly as much uproar.

[jeebs9]

Re: 11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

The Heat played great defense anyway on that possession lol

What do you guys think how this will work out? Because it is really obvious right now. That Wade and LeBron can't play together on the offensive side of the ball (effectively). I see how it will in the beginning of games. Wade takes the early sit. And plays with the bench. While LeBron would play the first and third quarters . The problem I see is in the fourth quarter of close games. They both can play with Bosh though... no question there.

How about Wade coming off the bench? (I don't see that happening)

edit: "Cavaliers officials reported one arrest, four ejections and 36 confiscated T-shirts or signs that were deemed inappropriate."

[OSUFan_88]

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Haven't watched to many Cavs game this year..but is this what Jamison has become since becoming a cav,He didn't play when the Wizards played the Cavs earlier in the year, but I saw dude airball one of his floaters, he wasn't hitting jumpers nor getting boards...is he done?, Eddie Jordan use all that talent.

Don't he still have 2 more years and a big contact left with you guys?

He has his moments, but he's done as an elite player. He's much more of a 6th man, instant offense type player.

Can't keep him on the court because he sucks on defense.

Hey look, I just described the entire Cleveland Cavaliers team too! Except Jamison sometimes plays with passion. Can't say that about the ****ing Cavs.

Hate this team.

[dsallupinyaarea]

Re: 11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

The Heat played great defense anyway on that possession lol

What do you guys think how this will work out? Because it is really obvious right now. That Wade and LeBron can't play together on the offensive side of the ball (effectively). I see how it will in the beginning of games. Wade takes the early sit. And plays with the bench. While LeBron would play the first and third quarters . The problem I see is in the fourth quarter of close games. They both can play with Bosh though... no question there.

How about Wade coming off the bench? (I don't see that happening)

edit: "Cavaliers officials reported one arrest, four ejections and 36 confiscated T-shirts or signs that were deemed inappropriate."

I honestly have no clue. I personally would rather have Wade in the 4th of a big/close game, but how do you bench Lebron in crunch time. Maybe 2-3 pick and roll and Wade has the ball in his hands??

[jeebs9]

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I mean Wade has to be the Ball handler in most situation if that happens (I like the idea though). I don't have much confidence in Wade hitting spot up jumpers. As much as I have in LeBron. And even then I don't feel confident with him doing it compared to a Mike Miller, James Jones or Eddie House. It is just scary how once Wade/LeBron sits down. How much the floor opens up.

You know all this.... And I didn't know the Suns played last night lol

[capp34]

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Ok if its how he left dont you think 6 months is enough time to get over it especially if your not a Cleveland fan. The more hate being sent his way makes it look like its more than that.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: 11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

Ok if its how he left dont you think 6 months is enough time to get over it especially if your not a Cleveland fan. The more hate being sent his way makes it look like its more than that.

Even as a Cleveland fan, I'm over it.

Or rather, I'm more pissed at the Cavaliers now than I ever was or likely will be @ LeBron.

[King_B_Mack]

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Ok if its how he left dont you think 6 months is enough time to get over it especially if your not a Cleveland fan. The more hate being sent his way makes it look like its more than that.

I don't really get what people want at this point. Do people need to start kissing LeBron's *** cause he can ball or something? Exactly what does get over it mean? For the most part I think people are over "The Decision." They understand that it happened, it's over and in the past and there's no going back at this point. However that doesn't mean people have to like LeBron or decide to cheer for him or want to see him and Miami succeed to actually be over what happened. LeBron's ego has gone completely out of control, apparently it was already out of control the entire time but we didn't know about it outside of a few hiccups here and there that people didn't see as a big deal at the time. At this point people who keep saying get over it, I really don't get what they want. If LeBron says or does something stupid people are supposed to not express they're opinion of the event? I'm just not following how you guys percieve 'getting over it.'

Also no six months isn't enough time considering people have to look at him and Miami for at least the next three years. If they win a championship this season are people not supposed to be upset cause they should have gotten over it five months prior?

[greenegt]

Re: 11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

What do you guys think how this will work out? Because it is really obvious right now. That Wade and LeBron can't play together on the offensive side of the ball (effectively). I see how it will in the beginning of games. Wade takes the early sit. And plays with the bench. While LeBron would play the first and third quarters . The problem I see is in the fourth quarter of close games. They both can play with Bosh though... no question there.

I think they can play well together if Wade excepts that LeBron is the man and the offense runs through him. Otherwise, we'll continue to see them taking turns dominating the ball while the other stands in the corner.

[NYJets]

Re: 11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

The Heat played great defense anyway on that possession lol

What do you guys think how this will work out? Because it is really obvious right now. That Wade and LeBron can't play together on the offensive side of the ball (effectively). I see how it will in the beginning of games. Wade takes the early sit. And plays with the bench. While LeBron would play the first and third quarters . The problem I see is in the fourth quarter of close games. They both can play with Bosh though... no question there.

How about Wade coming off the bench? (I don't see that happening)

edit: "Cavaliers officials reported one arrest, four ejections and 36 confiscated T-shirts or signs that were deemed inappropriate."

They need to play well together effectively. They don't have a good enough supporting cast, and probably never will, to be a legit contender if Wade and Lebron are just going to be taking turns. The team was built on the idea that Lebron, Wade, and Bosh together would be impossible to defend. They just need to keep playing together and hope that they figure out how to play without the ball, or else one of them would eventually have to be traded. But we are a loooooooong way away from that, its still very early, both in this season, and in their contracts.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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I think they can play well together if Wade excepts that LeBron is the man and the offense runs through him. Otherwise, we'll continue to see them taking turns dominating the ball while the other stands in the corner.

I don't think Wade's wired that way. I assumed it would work (in a few years) because Lebron would be the PG/facilitator and Wade would be "the man". I think Lebron is wired to do that. If the roles are reversed I don't think Wade would be able to handle playing 2nd fiddle.

[BaselineBakes]

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I mean Wade has to be the Ball handler in most situation if that happens (I like the idea though). I don't have much confidence in Wade hitting spot up jumpers. As much as I have in LeBron. And even then I don't feel confident with him doing it compared to a Mike Miller, James Jones or Eddie House. It is just scary how once Wade/LeBron sits down. How much the floor opens up.

You know all this.... And I didn't know the Suns played last night lol

I honestly think Lebron just being aggressive solves alot of problems for the Heat on offense. I just like you have watched Lebron since his sophmore year in HS and when Aggressive Lebron is out not only does it open up shooters but also cutting lanes for other players. I think more isolation for both players will be a good thing but I also think there is no simple formula for what they are trying to put together.

I truly believe they will have to create something new, something different, other then your standard pick and roll or isolation offense. To me this is what makes them together so interesting and that is how they figure out how to work off each other in the halfcourt. Obviously them on the fastbreak is simply ridiculous but once Aggressive Lebron is out everything opens up. Put him in the High post and clear the side, it works, I don't care what anyone says about LeIso.

On the defensive side of the ball when they are both active on their respective wings you have two of the best weak side defenders and ball hawks in the league. Once the trust comes the defense will be lockdown city.

[OSUFan_88]

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Still don't think the Heat can beat the Lakers or Celtics. May be able to take the Magic and the other teams.

[BaselineBakes]

Re: 11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

Still don't think the Heat can beat the Lakers or Celtics. May be able to take the Magic and the other teams.

Celtics yes, because of Rondo and I think they'll have trouble with the Bulls because of Rose.

The Lakers though, I think the Heat match up with really well and that's because the Lakers don't have a playmaker at the PG position to get that big those easy looks. We saw what happened that first time against Orlando, The Heat we're able to bottle up Howard in that second half but during the second game Nelson had the game of his life and got Howard some really open looks, the PG position is what beats the heat, not the size underneath.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: 11/29-12/5 Game Discussion Thread

Celtics yes, because of Rondo.

The Lakers though I think the Heat match up with really well and that's because the Lakers don't have a playmaker at the PG position to get that big those easy looks. We saw what happened that first time against Orlando, The Heat we're able to bottle up Howard in that second half but during the second game Nelson had the game of his life and got Howard some really open looks, the PG position is what beats the heat, not the size underneath.

OTOH, the Lakers are the only team who can man up against the Heat and beat them.

Plus it would be a blood bath down low. A terrible, awful blood bath.