2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

The Bulls are gonna have a VERY strong bench once everybody is healthy. Gibson, Thomas, Korver, Brewer, Asik and Watson are all very capable producers.

Yeah the bench will be fine when guys get healthy.

[JBH3]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Derrick Rose
Amar'e
Lebron/Wade
Durant/Westbrook

One of those will win MVP.

Could we see co-MVPs in Miami?

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

So I would like to hear the argument for Amare being ranked anywhere in the top 3.

Also, no there won't be a co MVP. Don't think that will ever happen.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

He'll get consideration just because of the NY Factor alone but take that away and I agree that he shouldn't be nowhere near the top 3 or even the top 4 for that matter.

[JBH3]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

So I would like to hear the argument for Amare being ranked anywhere in the top 3.

Also, no there won't be a co MVP. Don't think that will ever happen.

Well....that assumes they were ranked, which they were not.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Well....that assumes they were ranked, which they were not.

It doesn't matter if they weren't ranked, I'm still curious as to how he's in the conversation.

Especially leaving off Dwight Howard and Chris Paul? NY is barely over .500.

Westbrook? Explain that one as well.

[BATMON]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

If Amare was doin this in a smaller market, the MVP talk wouldnt be as loud.

The NBA does well when NY looks good.

[BATMON]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Chris Paul on tha come up.

[Altimus]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Yeah, I don't see how Westbrook belongs in the MVP talk.

[JBH3]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

It doesn't matter if they weren't ranked, I'm still curious as to how he's in the conversation.

Especially leaving off Dwight Howard and Chris Paul? NY is barely over .500.

He's 3rd in scoring, has 20 double doubles, great percentages for a C/PF, and is one of the best big men from a pts/reb/assists perspective. When considering MVPs, who is more valuable to his team than Amar'e? Without him NY would be a bottom feeder in the East.

Westbrook? Explain that one as well.

Yeah, I don't see how Westbrook belongs in the MVP talk.

Let's compare:

Player A:

PPG: 22.7
RPG: 5.1
APG: 8.5
TO: 3.9
SPG: 1.9
FG%: 44%
FT%: 85%
3pt%: 24%
MPG: 36.3
FPG: 2.5
This player has gotten to the FT line 383 times through Jan. 28th.

Player B:

PPG: 24.5
RPG: 4.6
APG: 8.2
TO: 3.5
SPG: 1.0
FG%: 44%
FT%: 82%
3pt%: 38%
MPG: 38.0
FPG: 1.5
This player has gotten to the FT line 279 times through Jan. 28th.


I dunno...I like player A more. He's gotten to the FT line 100x more than Player B, turnovers are negated by an extra steal a game, and player A plays in the West where top to bottom the talent level is deeper...especially in the backcourt. WhIch do you guys like? A or B?

[JBH3]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

The East is a collective: 310-351 through yesterday's games.

The West is a collective: 355-314 through yesterday's games.

By comparison Rose will have faced 3 of the worst team defenses 12 times (CLE/DET/Indy), and while MIL doesn't allow much scoring their DIFF is still negative.

Whereas Westbrook will have faced off with only Minnesota 4 times who are negative in DIFF.

If these aspects do not speak to the numbers that Westbrook has had to come by I don't know what else to do.

[yougo1000]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Rosey. (this is all I heard when I went to a Bulls game last week: MVP, MVP, MVP)
Yes the bulls crushed the Cavaliers that night.

[Po Pimp]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

He's 3rd in scoring, has 20 double doubles, great percentages for a C/PF, and is one of the best big men from a pts/reb/assists perspective. When considering MVPs, who is more valuable to his team than Amar'e? Without him NY would be a bottom feeder in the East.





Let's compare:

Player A:

PPG: 22.7
RPG: 5.1
APG: 8.5
TO: 3.9
SPG: 1.9
FG%: 44%
FT%: 85%
3pt%: 24%
MPG: 36.3
FPG: 2.5
This player has gotten to the FT line 383 times through Jan. 28th.

Player B:

PPG: 24.5
RPG: 4.6
APG: 8.2
TO: 3.5
SPG: 1.0
FG%: 44%
FT%: 82%
3pt%: 38%
MPG: 38.0
FPG: 1.5
This player has gotten to the FT line 279 times through Jan. 28th.


I dunno...I like player A more. He's gotten to the FT line 100x more than Player B, turnovers are negated by an extra steal a game, and player A plays in the West where top to bottom the talent level is deeper...especially in the backcourt. WhIch do you guys like? A or B?

The East is a collective: 310-351 through yesterday's games.

The West is a collective: 355-314 through yesterday's games.

By comparison Rose will have faced 3 of the worst team defenses 12 times (CLE/DET/Indy), and while MIL doesn't allow much scoring their DIFF is still negative.

Whereas Westbrook will have faced off with only Minnesota 4 times who are negative in DIFF.

If these aspects do not speak to the numbers that Westbrook has had to come by I don't know what else to do.

Stop looking at stats. What you fail to realize is that the Bulls have beaten every elite team besides the Spurs, they have the 3rd best record in the league, and have only had a full squad for 9 games this year (and Noah was hurting at the time, and Boozer had JUST come back).

I like Russ, but Rose is a much better player. He's ambidextrous which means he finishes better than Westbrook (Westbrook drives to the hole looking for contact, where Rose looks to score), he's shown he can lead a team by himself, he's the focus of other team's defense, yet still manages to get the job done. Yes, both are listed at 6'3, but Westbrook is actually taller than Rose. I really don't see how there's any comparison if you actually watch the games.

[JBH3]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Stop looking at stats. What you fail to realize is that the Bulls have beaten every elite team besides the Spurs, they have the 3rd best record in the league, and have only had a full squad for 9 games this year (and Noah was hurting at the time, and Boozer had JUST come back).

I like Russ, but Rose is a much better player. He's ambidextrous which means he finishes better than Westbrook (Westbrook drives to the hole looking for contact, where Rose looks to score), he's shown he can lead a team by himself, he's the focus of other team's defense, yet still manages to get the job done. Yes, both are listed at 6'3, but Westbrook is actually taller than Rose. I really don't see how there's any comparison if you
actually watch the games.

Stop? Looking at stats...?

What? OKC hasn't beaten elite teams? Westbrook hasn't put his team on his back? Rhetorical questions because the answer is both a resounding yes.

Don't know if you checked out for the first month or so of the season but that Kevin Durant guy wasn't playing too well and it was Russ Westbrook leading the way.

Both OKC and Chicago have played 46 games. Chicago's record is 3 wins better. The Thunder actually have a slightly better record than the Bulls do against .500 teams; given they've faced more as well since they play in the West.

The gap between Rose vs Westbrook is not as large as some would like to believe, and it's not looking at "stats" that allow folks to remain unknowing about the two.

I think just given Rose's draft stock and college career people automatically ascend him over someone like Westbrook...who I gues most think is overachieveing to this point.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Stop? Looking at stats...?

What? OKC hasn't beaten elite teams? Westbrook hasn't put his team on his back? Rhetorical questions because the answer is both a resounding yes.

Don't know if you checked out for the first month or so of the season but that Kevin Durant guy wasn't playing too well and it was Russ Westbrook leading the way.

Both OKC and Chicago have played 46 games. Chicago's record is 3 wins better. The Thunder actually have a slightly better record than the Bulls do against .500 teams; given they've faced more as well since they play in the West.

The gap between Rose vs Westbrook is not as large as some would like to believe, and it's not looking at "stats" that allow folks to remain unknowing about the two.

I think just given Rose's draft stock and college career people automatically ascend him over someone like Westbrook...who I gues most think is overachieveing to this point.

They're both exceptional players but Westbrook has done it under Durant's shadow meanwhile Rose has had to carry his team pretty much every single game.