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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #526
    Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

    If the Lakers were to take over first place in the West would Kobe's name be in the MVP discussion. I'm talking, top 3 in the voting.
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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #527
      Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

      No I don't think he would.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • Po Pimp
        MVP
        • Jan 2005
        • 2251

        #528
        Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

        Originally posted by jeebs9
        If the Lakers were to take over first place in the West would Kobe's name be in the MVP discussion. I'm talking, top 3 in the voting.
        I think he would. Not saying he SHOULD, but I think he would for the simple fact that they will look at the Lakers since the all star break. My problem with Kobe being in the MVP discussion is that the Lakers' run is directly related to Andrew Bynum. It may not show up in the box scores, but his presence has made the Lakers go.

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        • da ThRONe
          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
          • Mar 2009
          • 8528

          #529
          Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

          Unless the Bulls go on an improbable losing streak D.Rose is your 10-11 regular season NBA MVP.
          You looking at the Chair MAN!

          Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #530
            Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

            http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/trueho...ory?id=6274778

            LeBron: Give it to Rose.
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            • BATMON
              Banned
              • Oct 2010
              • 1445

              #531
              Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

              Originally posted by Po Pimp
              Secondly, Rose is not the media darling. Like someone said, Rose didn't become the overwhelming favorite until they swept the Heat in the regular season and took over 2nd place. The media didn't start talking about the Bulls until like 2 weeks ago. .
              The media have been talkin about Rose and the Bulls way before the all star break when Rose was holding the team up and Noah was out of the lineup.

              The Bulls have always been in discussion this season.

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              • King_B_Mack
                All Star
                • Jan 2009
                • 24450

                #532
                Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                Originally posted by BATMON
                The media have been talkin about Rose and the Bulls way before the all star break when Rose was holding the team up and Noah was out of the lineup.

                The Bulls have always been in discussion this season.
                Let's not even have this discussion dude. Yes people have been talking about the Bulls, but they have not been pumping up the Bulls all year long. They were an afterthought when mentioned. It was Heat, Lakers, Celtics, Spurs yadda yadda 'oh and yeah the Bulls look pretty solid.' The only time the Bulls got talked about was if they played the Heat, Thunder or Celtics on an ESPN game otherwise they were brought up in the middle of Sportscenter and talked about for 30 to 40 seconds. So let's not even try to debate this.

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                • Dice
                  Sitting by the door
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 6627

                  #533
                  Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                  Originally posted by BATMON
                  The media have been talkin about Rose and the Bulls way before the all star break when Rose was holding the team up and Noah was out of the lineup.

                  The Bulls have always been in discussion this season.
                  I wouldn't go as far to say "way before" the all-star break. Probably closer to the all-star break is when the consensus was getting on the Bulls band wagon.

                  Now the only media personality that was hyping the Bulls up back in early December was Charles Barkley. And even he said that the Bulls won't have the best record in the East BUT he thought that they had the best chance at going to the Finals.
                  I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                  • BATMON
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1445

                    #534
                    Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                    Let's not even have this discussion dude. Yes people have been talking about the Bulls, but they have not been pumping up the Bulls all year long. They were an afterthought when mentioned. It was Heat, Lakers, Celtics, Spurs yadda yadda 'oh and yeah the Bulls look pretty solid.' The only time the Bulls got talked about was if they played the Heat, Thunder or Celtics on an ESPN game otherwise they were brought up in the middle of Sportscenter and talked about for 30 to 40 seconds. So let's not even try to debate this.
                    Check your tone son.

                    The Bulls were being discussed, whether as a good team or a Finals team is on you to juggle. But are plenty of NBA critics outside of Sportscenter and TNT. Those two networks dont make the entire sportsworld.

                    I wasnt talking about bandwagon jumpers either.

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                    • BATMON
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1445

                      #535
                      Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                      Chicago Bulls

                      With center Joakim Noah out with a thumb injury and power forward Carlos Boozer struggling through an ankle sprain, leading MVP-candidate Derrick Rose has kept the Bulls competitive by taking over games with regularity. Rose has been stupendous in the month of January, averaging 26 points and 7 assists while leading Chi town to a 10-4 record. Watching the point guard exercise his confident open court stride, gorgeous crossover and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon hops, it becomes clear that the Bulls will have a chance to beat anybody come spring time with the ball in Rose’s hands. Thouh the hometown hero receives the bulk of the press, forward Luol Deng has been integral to the success of Coach Tom Thibodeau’s squad. Thibodeau’s effective defensive system (Chicago is ranked third in the league in points allowed per game) is motorized by Deng’s ability to lock the opponent’s top perimeter scorer in the basement and his 17 points per game have been a helpful compliment to Rose’s offense.
                      January 2011

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                      • King_B_Mack
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 24450

                        #536
                        Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                        Oh wow, that random one quote from an unnamed source has certainly shut my mouth. Give me a break dude. In the context of the discussion that you're trying to bring up 'the media' talking about the Bulls as in, slobbing all over them, the national media was not on the Bulls until at the earliest when they beat the Heat in Miami or even when they beat the Heat in Chicago coming out of the All-Star break. Either way it wasn't before the break.

                        Even if that one, lone paragraph is a legit thing to use, exactly what about that write up works towards the negative vibe that some of you guys are trying to paint Rose and the Bulls as being media darlings all year as? That's a typical write up that you can find on pretty much any team in contention this year. Get outta here with that mess man.

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                        • BATMON
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1445

                          #537
                          Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                          Oh wow, that random one quote from an unnamed source has certainly shut my mouth. Give me a break dude. In the context of the discussion that you're trying to bring up 'the media' talking about the Bulls as in, slobbing all over them, the national media was not on the Bulls until at the earliest when they beat the Heat in Miami or even when they beat the Heat in Chicago coming out of the All-Star break. Either way it wasn't before the break.

                          Even if that one, lone paragraph is a legit thing to use, exactly what about that write up works towards the negative vibe that some of you guys are trying to paint Rose and the Bulls as being media darlings all year as? That's a typical write up that you can find on pretty much any team in contention this year. Get outta here with that mess man.
                          Sorry, but I just dont see how one dude who calls Rose a Leading MVP candidate in late January is critiquing in a vacuum. Yet the Bulls bandwagon is "like 2 weeks old?

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #538
                            Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                            Originally posted by BATMON
                            Sorry, but I just dont see how one dude who calls Rose a Leading MVP candidate in late January is critiquing in a vacuum. Yet the Bulls bandwagon is "like 2 weeks old?
                            I didn't say the Bulls bandwagon is like 2 weeks old and obviously Po Pimp, who said it was exaggerating when he said it. Again though, you're too busy trying to troll someone to actually take into context an entire post before you respond...four days after he made the comment mind you. And it's critiquing in a vacuum cause Barkley was talking about the Bulls back in December and people were calling him crazy. But hey lets take ONE of his comments from then and use it as a reflection of the entire national media pumping the Bulls all year. Meanwhile you're lecturing me that ESPN and TNT don't make up all of the media to be able to use all the guys and comments on they're family of networks to make my point. Whatever.

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #539
                              Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                              Has the National Media been pumping up the Bulls like the Lakers/Heat/Celtics of the world ALL year long? No.

                              But let's not use "Oh well, they only started talking about us AFTER/AROUND the ASB" or even started mentioning them around that time because that's far from true.

                              So in a way, Batmon does have a point because this ain't somethin' that just started happening in the last month or whatever.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #540
                                Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                Has the National Media been pumping up the Bulls like the Lakers/Heat/Celtics of the world ALL year long? No.

                                But let's not use "Oh well, they only started talking about us AFTER/AROUND the ASB" or even started mentioning them around that time because that's far from true.

                                So in a way, Batmon does have a point because this ain't somethin' that just started happening in the last month or whatever.
                                Nah Pack we ain't even going there with it. I think we all agree that the Bulls have been on the radar, we aren't acting like they haven't been. However in the context of why we're even talking about this; someone trying to claim that the media gifted Rose the MVP cause they've been fawning all over the Bulls all year. Then no people weren't firmly entrenched on the Bulls bandwagon and driving the Rose is a lock for MVP train until sometime after the ASB. Before that, it was still just talking about 'hey the Bulls are a cute little team' 'it's a surprise to see this team playing like this so Rose has as good a case as anyone but it's a long way to go in this race' type of talk. Once they took it to a fully healthy Heat team, then the Bulls were considered serious contenders. Before the ASB most guys were still talking about them more than likely losing in the second round or at most making it to the ECF and getting spanked by the Heat or C's.

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