2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

[BlueNGold]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Just thought I'd throw this in here.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6273115

It isn't as clear cut as some people are making it out to be.

Also, I'd just like to point out an example of sensationalism in Rose's favor. The other night, he has a monster game against the Bucks, finishing with 31 & 18. The media, and in suit, the fans, go bonkers. "If you doubt the validity of D-Rose winning the MVP, watch the last 3 minutes of this game".

Durant puts up 34 and 16 a couple weeks earlier while shooting 50% from the field, and you hear crickets. LeBron throws up a triple double the other night, and there's whispers. In the last two weeks, Dwight has had two games where's he's dropped 25+ pts, and 15+ boards, and you hear nothing. Etc.

Just stop. Looking back at your post history, it's already clear you're in a Durant lovefest and will do any and everything to try and make a case for him as MVP and try to belittle Rose's case every chance you get. Pretty much all of your posts concerning Rose and the Bulls is looking down on them, while Durant and the Thunder can do no wrong.

You're the same one who made this thread:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...oes-again.html

You're also the same one who said Derrick Rose isn't a closer.

You also said this:

If the Bulls ultimate goal is to get bounced from the playoffs every year, and at best, reaching the conference finals(Which wont happen with the Celtics, Heat, and Magic in the conference), then yes, Rose can be the closer.

And this:

Absolute horrible decision by Noah. Ugh.

Can't wait till Boozer comes around.

What exactly would Boozer being in the game change? Derrick Rose would still be trying to shoulder the team at the end of games, and the Bulls still wouldn't have a reliable parameter player who can create their own shot.

No closer = losses at the end of close games against good teams with closers.

And this:

Poor Bulls. D-Rose trying to score by himself at the end of games all season isn't going to work. They're looking at their future right now.

[Dice]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

First, you'd have to point out where that was said.

I think Kings mad.

Lets face it. The Bulls aren't some underdog team that have suddenly come out of nowhere to grab some media attention. They've been getting pimped, and it's obvious as all hell that D-Rose is their darling this season. That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't deserving, only that other candidates that are equally qualified haven't gotten much face time.

When you say this season, I'm assuming the whole season. That's how I interpret it since you didn't clarify.

So what exactly are you trying to prove? I said the media has been pimping D-Rose, he's the medias choice, and that other qualified prospects have been ignored because of it. Banter sparked from these comments, you were one of the participants.

Which prompted me to post those links. When was LeBron, Howard or any of the candidates being ignored? From what I'm getting at, you think the media picked Derrick Rose as the MVP since day one.

[Bumi]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Just stop. Looking back at your post history, it's already clear you're in a Durant lovefest and will do any and everything to try and make a case for him as MVP and try to belittle Rose's case every chance you get. Pretty much all of your posts concerning Rose and the Bulls is looking down on them, while Durant and the Thunder can do no wrong.

Well, you'd have a point if Durant were the only player I'm making a case for. But in the exact post you quoted, there's mentions of LeBron & Dwight. Imagine that.

You're the same one who made this thread:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...oes-again.html

You're also the same one who said Derrick Rose isn't a closer.

You also said this:



And this:





And this:

Yep, and I said all of that. Could end up being wrong, but since the playoffs haven't been played, you attempting to throw it in my face is a tad bit premature.

[Xs and Os]

Good grief. You'd think the Bulls were headed for 72-10 again based on how some people are reacting to their season. They're 54-20. Great record, exceptional season, but it doesn't warrant claims such as the one bold-ed above.

There are 5 teams within 4 games of having the exact record as the Bulls. 5 within 3. 4 within 2. 2 within 1. And there's one team with a better record.

Secondly, the Bulls roster is on par with the Heats, Lakers, Celtics, and Spurs. Not saying it's better or worse, but they share realms with one another.



Personally, I don't think Kobe deserves much consideration. But LeBron, Dwight, Dirk, and Durant are all putting up numbers just as impressive, if not better than Rose's numbers, and all of their teams are in contention.

Lmao @ good grief. So dramatic.

The Bulls have been the most consistent by the definition of the term. LA started slow and hardly beat any good teams before the ASB. San Antonio and Boston have faded recently. Dallas has been spotty since Dirk and Caron went down. Miami started off under performing, recently had their little crisis and still has a poor record against good teams. The Bulls haven't had these situations, and they've had injuries to their starting frontcourt, so I don't know why you're so exasperated. Also don't know why you're bringing up the MJ Bulls. I didn't say they were far and away the best team, which would be in line with your accusation. I just said that they were the most steady in the group of top teams with records that make their players eligible for the MVP award. In fact, I'll amend that and say not only are they the most consistent, but the bulls have gotten better as the season has progressed. The only other top team(record wise) that looks like it is at it's best right now is LA. OKC and portland are at their best, but don't have the record to qualify for this discussion.

[Bumi]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

[quote=Dice;2042268805]When you say this season, I'm assuming the whole season. That's how I interpret it since you didn't clarify.[quote]

When I say "this season", I mean this seasons MVP winner. That doesn't necessarily mean he's been touted all season, just when it matters.

Which prompted me to post those links. When was LeBron, Howard or any of the candidates being ignored? From what I'm getting at, you think the media picked Derrick Rose as the MVP candidate since day one.

Now, when it actually matters. I think we all know Rose is going to win the MVP, and in my opinion, it's a tad bit premature.

[Xs and Os]

What are you talking about? Do you even know what consistent means?

The Heat have been incredibly inconsistent all season long. They've struggled mightily against contenders and were a mess to start the season. The Lakers were dropping games to the Cavs just before the All-Star break and had rumors swirling of looking at making a move to shake up the team. The Celtics have been bad post-Perkins trade losing to the Nets and Bobcats in the past 2 weeks. I won't make a case against the Spurs since before guys like Parker and Duncan went down they had the best record in the league.

Anyways, through all of that, the Bulls have been the most consistent team in the league. They haven't lost more than 2 games in a row all season. I don't know where you got Xs and Os saying they were the 72 win Bulls because he said they were consistent.

See you interpreted my post as it was written. I sometimes wonder what people are reading.

[BlueNGold]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

See you interpreted my post as it was written. I sometimes wonder what people are reading.

Don't mind him, it's just his blue and orange tinted OKC homer shades that are on.

And don't get me wrong, I do agree with Bumi's ORIGINAL point that Durant should be in the discussion, and I'm sure he'll get some votes when it comes down to it at the end of the season. But when you start acting like Rose isn't deserving at all and his MVP case is just a creation of the media, it's ridiculous. The guy has carried that Bulls team all season long and when you factor in the circumstances surrounding it, he should be the MVP.

I'm a LeBron fan, but you don't see me trying to make a case that LeBron should be MVP, because he shouldn't. He's playing with Bosh and Wade and has failed at his attempts to close out games this season. Rose on the other hand, has (mostly) succeeded at that.

[Bumi]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Lmao @ good grief. So dramatic.

The Bulls have been the most consistent by the definition of the term. LA started slow and hardly beat any good teams before the ASB. San Antonio and Boston have faded recently. Dallas has been spotty since Dirk and Caron went down. Miami started off under performing, recently had their little crisis and still has a poor record against good teams. The Bulls haven't had these situations, and they've had injuries to their starting frontcourt, so I don't know why you're so exasperated. Also don't know why you're bringing up the MJ Bulls. I didn't say they were far and away the best team, which would be in line with your accusation. I just said that they were the most steady in the group of top teams with records that make their players eligible for the MVP award. In fact, I'll amend that and say not only are they the most consistent, but the bulls have gotten better as the season has progressed. The only other top team(record wise) that looks like it is at it's best right now is LA. OKC and portland are at their best, but don't have the record to qualify for this discussion.

At one point, the Bulls had dropped 8 of 17. How is that, by definition, more consistent than the Spurs dropping 7 of 15 in the month of March? It's 6 in one hand, a half dozen in the other.

[Bumi]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Don't mind him, it's just his blue and orange tinted OKC homer shades that are on.

It's the Thunder shades that have my arguing for Dwight Howard and LeBron James. Right on.

And don't get me wrong, I do agree with Bumi's ORIGINAL point that Durant should be in the discussion, and I'm sure he'll get some votes when it comes down to it at the end of the season. But when you start acting like Rose isn't deserving at all and his MVP case is just a creation of the media, it's ridiculous. The guy has carried that Bulls team all season long and when you factor in the circumstances surrounding it, he should be the MVP.

I'm a LeBron fan, but you don't see me trying to make a case that LeBron should be MVP, because he shouldn't. He's playing with Bosh and Wade and has failed at his attempts to close out games this season. Rose on the other hand, has (mostly) succeeded at that.

And I disagree. The reasons why have already been outlined. Your opinion is no more valuable than anyone else's, so jump down from the pedestal.

[Xs and Os]

At one point, the Bulls had dropped 8 of 17. How is that, by definition, more consistent than the Spurs dropping 7 of 15 in the month of March? It's 6 in one hand, a half dozen in the other.

When you win matters IMO. The closer you get to the playoffs, the more wins matter. So in it's worse to be losing now than before the ASB. Its a moot point because SA doesn't have an MVP. So even if I were to modify my statement to say, "along with SA", Rose's MVP case remains the same as per my post.

[Bumi]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

When you win matters IMO. The closer you get to the playoffs, the more wins matter. So in it's worse to be losing now than before the ASB. Its a moot point because SA doesn't have an MVP. So even if I were to modify my statement to say, "along with SA", Rose's MVP case remains the same as per my post.

I agree, but you docked the Lakers for having a slow start, but excused the Bulls for experiencing the same. Just saying. But, fair enough.

[Xs and Os]

I agree, but you docked the Lakers for having a slow start, but excused the Bulls for experiencing the same. Just saying. But, fair enough.

The Lakers were up and down for the entire pre ASB season. It wasn't a blip. Them being almost perfect since the break proves my point.

[Bumi]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

The Lakers were up and down for the entire pre ASB season. It wasn't a blip. Them being almost perfect since the break proves my point.

Like I said, I hear what you're saying, but the Bulls, at one point, struggled as well.

[Xs and Os]

Like I said, I hear what you're saying, but the Bulls, at one point, struggled as well.

If you hear what I'm saying, how do you justify "good grief" and bringing up the 72 win Bulls? That's taking my point completely out of context.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Who is your NBA MVP as of right now?

Ya'll are all over the place here to the point where I don't even know what's being argued anymore.

[DookieMowf]I dunno too much[/DookieMowf]