NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[greenegt]

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Great news, aholbert32. The sooner we get back to actual basketball, the better.

[aholbert32]

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Well damn lol

Well ****, get this damn thing done now so I can get my man Deron back in the states and so we can get back to actually talking about Basketball on here and not BRIs and all that other nonsense lol.

Its not gonna be easy though. The Luxury tax is the big problem. The owners want to significantly change it. For example, the Lakers pay $1 for every dollar they are over the cap currently. The owners want to change that to $4 for every dollar. So the if the Lakers are 50 mil over the cap....they will pay 200 mil extra each year to be that high over the cap. The owners also want a requirement that a team like the Lakers can only be over the cap for 3 straight years. At year 4, the Lakers will have to cut salary and get under the cap.

The players consider that proposal a version of a hard cap and I agree. No team will be willing to pay $4 for every 1 over the cap. So that means no team will go over the cap and that makes it a hard cap. They are suggesting $2 for every 1 and no 3 yr restriction.

This is one area that I strongly agree with the players. The problem is they have no leverage here. If anything blows up the season...it will be this.

[WTF]

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I personally don't see how the players should have a say in the tax situation. Its forcing owners to wisen up their spending and limit collusion attempts, while promoting a more balanced league.

[WTF]

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That's just assuming I understand the concept.

[OSUFan_88]

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I personally don't see how the players should have a say in the tax situation. Its forcing owners to wisen up their spending and limit collusion attempts, while promoting a more balanced league.

The problem is that it means teams will not be so willing to go over the cap to sign players because of how much it will cost.

Which means less money for players.

It's a tough issue. If I had to guess, they will raise the tax closer to a 2:1 ratio but not as high as 4:1.

It will be tough work, no doubt, but they should still get this settle fairly soon. If the owners comes ready to make a deal and willing to budge off the 4:1, then it could get done today. But I wouldn't expect that. I think the owners will make it like pulling teeth, which is stupid because it should not be that big of a deal if the owners have fixed their revenue sharing and BRI problem.

[greenegt]

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Make it 2.5:1 with no restrictions on luxury tax years.

[DukeC]

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Meh. I feel like with that luxury tax system..teams won't be able to hold on to superstars, or even regular stars all that long and the window to win a championship will be significantly shorter since you can't afford to keep your players because of that high of a luxury tax.

Less money for players, Shorter window to win a championship for teams.

Of course, I could be assuming the worse.

[23]

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Meh. I feel like with that luxury tax system..teams won't be able to hold on to superstars, or even regular stars all that long and the window to win a championship will be significantly shorter since you can't afford to keep your players because of that high of a luxury tax.

Less money for players, Shorter window to win a championship for teams.

Of course, I could be assuming the worse.

Well if that is the case, then you wont have the same exact teams year in and out on tv going to the finals because some can afford more than others and 2...if they love the game so much they'll play for less or a chance to win

[aholbert32]

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Stern is out sick with the flu today. Seriously doubt a deal gets done without Stern. Maybe Friday.

[23]

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Old man can't be hanging out all night like that anymore ...unless its one of those NBA sicknesses, if you know what I mean

No way anything happens without him though, so this is just another week passed by

[aholbert32]

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Old man can't be hanging out all night like that anymore ...unless its one of those NBA sicknesses, if you know what I mean

No way anything happens without him though, so this is just another week passed by

Dont say that yet. No reason they cant continue to meet Friday and this weekend. No jewish holidays and no other meetings scheduled that conflict with the meetings.

[da ThRONe]

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Meh. I feel like with that luxury tax system..teams won't be able to hold on to superstars, or even regular stars all that long and the window to win a championship will be significantly shorter since you can't afford to keep your players because of that high of a luxury tax.

Less money for players, Shorter window to win a championship for teams.

Of course, I could be assuming the worse.

Isn't that the point?

[mvb34]

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Its not gonna be easy though. The Luxury tax is the big problem. The owners want to significantly change it. For example, the Lakers pay $1 for every dollar they are over the cap currently. The owners want to change that to $4 for every dollar. So the if the Lakers are 50 mil over the cap....they will pay 200 mil extra each year to be that high over the cap. The owners also want a requirement that a team like the Lakers can only be over the cap for 3 straight years. At year 4, the Lakers will have to cut salary and get under the cap.

I like this no matter how much they decided on The Luxury Tax..

[aholbert32]

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Interesting comment by Silver:

"Adam Silver: "Whether or not an 82-game schedule is still possible is unclear to me"

[Crimsontide27]

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No matter what deal they strike, if any at all, it only caters to the minority of people involved and not the majority. Right now if I were to take a guess over 80%+ of the NBA are the ones suffering, while the negotiations are all about pleasing the less than 20%.