NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[l3ulvl]

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...and Hunter and Fisher still wont take this to a player vote

but they can gather signatures for a decert? That right there is what makes absolutely no sense to me at all

Haha, I said the exact thing a couple days ago. They don't want to get a player vote because they're afraid the players will approve it.

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Personal agenda

And thats the whole point in saying fisher didn't care what they present if its not on his terms

And As long as it drags on billy has a job

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NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
Lost in this is Stern has already canceled first two weeks of December without ever announcing it.

This happened?

[Outcast]

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Seems random as hell how they pick these guys looking at that list.

I'd say Afflalo isn't random, I mean he is the only Nugget who has a brain inside his head (perhaps maybe Lawson also)

[Marino]

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This happened?

This lockout needs to be agreed upon to get the season started on December 15th, so yeah, 2 weeks of December will be gone.

[greenegt]

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Wow, some of these players are dumb. They continue to hold out for a worse deal. I hope Stern obliges and pulls the 50/50 offer for good, if they don't accept next week.

[aholbert32]

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This happened?

Yep. Best case scenario the season starts Dec. 15. so that means the first 2 weeks are gone.

[matt8204]

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This lockout needs to be agreed upon to get the season started on December 15th, so yeah, 2 weeks of December will be gone.

Yeah, I've heard that they'll need about 30 days before games can be played if/when there is an agreement. Remember, rookies haven't been signed and there was no free agency period.

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Yep. Best case scenario the season starts Dec. 15. so that means the first 2 weeks are gone.

Oh man, For some reason I didnt realize this or it just didn't hit me

Once this spills over into January its over completely

Do they realize this at all?

[A.I]

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Im patiently waiting for monday or tues & see what happens.

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"There comes a time when you have to be through with negotiating,'' Stern said. "And we are.''

If the players reject the offer, which the leaders of both sides said does not fully address all of the issues the players wanted, Stern said the next position by the league will be to reset its strategy and move back to a hard-line position of negotiating a 53-47 split of league revenue in favor of the owners and a hard salary cap. So the message is clear: This will be the best offer the players will see before the season is threatened. If the players reject this proposal, their likely next step would be to seek the decertification route.

[A.I]

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http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/7220080/dallas-mavericks-jason-terry-players-set-walk-deal-bad

Dallas Mavericks player representative Jason Terry said that if the proposal NBA commissioner David Stern delivered to the union late Thursday night is not a substantial improvement from the league's prior one, players will be prepared to walk away, even if it threatens losing the entire season.
"Our reasoning and what our strategy is, is we are trying to grow the game of basketball, and under the terms that have been presented to us, the game of basketball for us, from a players' perspective, financially, will not be growing," Terry said Friday morning during an appearance on the "Ben and Skin Show" on 103.3 FM ESPN.



Terry, who expressed concern for would-be rookies and players coming off their rookie seasons who might not have the financial wherewithal to withstand a prolonged lockout, as well as the arena workers whose hours are being slashed without NBA games to work, said the players simply can't be pushed into taking a bad deal.
"The proposals that have been proposed to us have not been good, not been good at all," Terry said. "For us to take a bad deal at this point as players would be not good for the game of basketball and it won't be good for the players going on into the future.
"We just don't think it's fair and it's not what has been built with the prior bargaining agreements."

[Marino]

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Terry doesn't care about would be rookies or arena workers, none of the players do. They care about how their bank account will be effected.

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Terry you aint trying to grow the game of basketball, quit lying dawg

"We just don't think it's fair and it's not what has been built with the prior bargaining agreements."

You mean the one that afforded all of you guys to be overpaid?
The one that still has Eddy Curry making millions?
That netted Shard and Joe Johnson at least 100 million plus?

"For us to take a bad deal at this point as players would be not good for the game of basketball

Can you tell us why its not good for the game, Mr Terry, rather than holding out and losing hundreds of millions sir... how is that good for the game?

and it won't be good for the players going on into the future.

Translation: We can't play where we want and be overpaid at the same time from now on, so we dont want it



Oh ok... I get it Mr Terry, my buddy who lost his job...he knows EXACTLY how you feel.

[TN3LL]

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Danny Granger stated that if the proposal is the same with only minor tweaks that the union would reject it