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  • tehova
    b**-r*y
    • Mar 2003
    • 3694

    #4636
    Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

    The bidding system is an excellent idea, I cant imagine anybody that will be against it Just reading that the amnesty provision rolls over so it might not be many cuts at all, i was gonna link the article but the new york times was trying to get me to register to look at the article again http://twitter.com/#!/HowardBeckNYT he has the article on his twitter
    Last edited by tehova; 11-28-2011, 08:49 AM.
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    • aholbert32
      (aka Alberto)
      • Jul 2002
      • 33106

      #4637
      Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

      Originally posted by da ThRONe
      I agree. I think the league is too short sighted to see the long term finanical benefit to reducing the season. If they would cut games and make the regular season as must see as the playoffs the revenue they would make having those extra games would pale in comparison to what they could make in shorten season.

      But like aholbert pointed out all they can see is the carrot in front of their faces and end up walking past an entire field of carrots.
      I don't see the benefit at all as a fan. A shorter season guarantees I don't see every team. A shorter season means I pay more or the same for less games (players and owners have to make that revenue up somewhere) Just because there are 30 home games instead of 42 doesn't guarantee sellouts or even more ticket sales for some teams. It just guarantees less revenue.

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      • WTF
        MVP
        • Aug 2002
        • 20274

        #4638
        Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

        Nor do I. Not only that, but the players are more interested in playing as many games as possible, to ensure that they don't miss the money thats in front of them.

        Really don't understand your thought process at all on this one.
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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #4639
          Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

          While I don't agree with games being reduced, I HIGHLY doubt youd hear a player complain about a reduced season....extra check or not.....82 games is a lot wear and tear.

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #4640
            Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            While I don't agree with games being reduced, I HIGHLY doubt youd hear a player complain about a reduced season....extra check or not.....82 games is a lot wear and tear.
            Are you serious? Lets say the season was cut to 60 games. That basically eliminates a month and a half worth of games. First, the owners would ask for (and would be justified in receiving) salary rollbacks equal to the number of games being played. That would mean each player would lose more than 20% of their salary. A player making 5 mil would now make less than 4. You really think players wouldnt care about losing 20% of their salary.

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            • Drewski
              Basketball Reasons
              • Jun 2011
              • 3783

              #4641
              Originally posted by aholbert32
              Are you serious? Lets say the season was cut to 60 games. That basically eliminates a month and a half worth of games. First, the owners would ask for (and would be justified in receiving) salary rollbacks equal to the number of games being played. That would mean each player would lose more than 20% of their salary. A player making 5 mil would now make less than 4. You really think players wouldnt care about losing 20% of their salary.
              I agree with this. And that's just considering mid level guys, the top tier of contracts would be losing even more if the season was cut further. As a fan its a nice thought that guys would be healthier on a shorter season, but realistically they don't want to be missing millions. Just like I wouldn't want to miss 20% of my salary.

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #4642
                Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                Oh god, not this cut down the games crap again.
                #RespectTheCulture

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #4643
                  Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  Oh god, not this cut down the games crap again.
                  LOL. Its almost as if people dont fully think through their arguments. I've seen this argument several times in this forum and its ridiculous.

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #4644
                    Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                    Don't know if this was mentioned earlier:

                    One new wrinkle in the CBA that does hurt the Nets --and a league executive says few things do-- is a new restriction on the use of cash in trades. In the past, teams could send up to $3 million in cash considerations per deal. It was a great sweetener. Now, teams have a season long limit of $3 million...and also new, teams can receive no more than $3 million in a year.
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #4645
                      Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                      Originally posted by da ThRONe
                      I agree. I think the league is too short sighted to see the long term finanical benefit to reducing the season. If they would cut games and make the regular season as must see as the playoffs the revenue they would make having those extra games would pale in comparison to what they could make in shorten season.

                      But like aholbert pointed out all they can see is the carrot in front of their faces and end up walking past an entire field of carrots.
                      ThRONe, I like you, you're a pretty cool dude. That being said, please don't start this crap again man. It's not being short sighted, it's not a carrot dangling in front of them. There is simply no way in hell that the NBA will generate more revenue with a 66-60 something game season instead of the normal 82. The reasons have already been mentioned here. Just let that **** die man, cause it's not a good idea for anybody involved except maybe Timberwolves fans who don't have to watch 82 examples of bad franchise management a year this way.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #4646
                        Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                        Oh god, not this cut down the games crap again.
                        My sentiments exactly

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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #4647
                          Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                          Lol I didn't know this was one of THOSE discussions, was this in the first CBA thread or something?....I wouldnt have said anything, because honestly I don't even care enough to back up the post I made..

                          I care about this topic like I care about what kind of shoes Earl Boykins wears...

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #4648
                            Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            Lol I didn't know this was one of THOSE discussions, was this in the first CBA thread or something?....I wouldnt have said anything, because honestly I don't even care enough to back up the post I made..

                            I care about this topic like I care about what kind of shoes Earl Boykins wears...
                            da throne destroyed the first CBA thread with this madness.

                            Its been explained enough not to continue doing this over and over

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                            • l3ulvl
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 17234

                              #4649
                              Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                              Originally posted by 23
                              da throne destroyed the first CBA thread with this madness.


                              I never read the first CBA thread but that just made me bust out laughing
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                              • Dice
                                Sitting by the door
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 6627

                                #4650
                                Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                                I saw that the CBA is a 10-year deal with an mutual option at the 6th year. Stupid question: Does this opt-out have to be agreed by both sides or does only one party have the ability to opt-out?
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