The evaluation of Kobe Bryant

[TheMatrix31]

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He went off last night haha. I was worried about that game against PHX because everyone knows the only reason LA beats them was Odom and he's gone now. Looks like Kobe had to take it into his own hands. I got a ton of flack for ranking Kobe in my top 3 earlier this year and he's definitely proven me right so far.

Nice trolling bro. It worked.

[Vni]

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So good to see him taking over again. He is really beasting this year, he does everything in LA, he really cares. You can dislike him but he really gives everything to basketball and L.A. He has no quitting in him. Having said that I don't think his body will make it through the 66 games schegdule, I think he plays way too many minutes per games right now.

[Scott812313]

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Nice trolling bro. It worked.

Trolling? No trolling at all. Odom was a matchup nightmare for PHX (along with most other teams) because LA can't afford to have Bynum and Gasol in at the same time against them. I swear it seems like you have a vendetta against me for some reason.

[TheMatrix31]

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Trolling? No trolling at all. Odom was a matchup nightmare for PHX (along with most other teams) because LA can't afford to have Bynum and Gasol in at the same time against them. I swear it seems like you have a vendetta against me for some reason.

Right. It's no coincidence whatsoever that I'm the only one who pounds that whole "Odom is the Suns killer" thing.

If you didn't say "everyone knows the only reason LA beats them......." then maybe you'd have a shot at fooling everyone about that.

You're thoroughly transparent, dude. And it's a very, very bad thing.

[ehh]

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25 FGA per game.

Nearing 05-06 territory.........this will not end well.

[airjoca]

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I watched Raptors @ Bulls followed by Lakers @ Clippers. If I didn't know better, I wouldn't be able to know whos is the 23 year old and the 33 year old between Kobe and Rose...

[DamnYanks2]

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In the end it's just natural for people that grew up watching Kobe, to annoint him as the G.O.A.T over Jordan. This trend will always continue because this is who this generation grew up with. The next generation will annoint Lebron the G.O.A.T, and Durant will be the next one in line. Jordan would put all these guys to shame though. His fire and will, can never be matched.

[Playmakers]

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25 FGA per game. Nearing 05-06 territory.........this will not end well.

I don't know if he can keep this pace up but as of right now i have to say Kobe is serving me some crow..

I didn't think he had legs left him to take over games this year but i guess that little trip to Germany did something for him.

I was man enough to bash him...so i'll be man enough to admit as of now I was wrong about Kobe.

He could wear down later in the season but right now he should be getting his prop's from everyone

[ehh]

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http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/01/16/monday-musings-the-trouble-in-evaluating-kobe-bryant/?sct=hp_t12_a2&eref=sihp

Perfect title for the article given this thread.

[Jano]

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Article just makes me more sad the Lakers don't have a true PG because Kobe is a terrible facilitator lol!

[ex carrabba fan]

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Would have been something to see how Bryant played with CP3

Jano, I slightly disagree with you.. I think he has shown the ability to be an excellent facilitator, it's just that he chooses not to play that way. He's been as defiant as ever this year saying "I'm a scorer. That's what I do, I look to score if that's not there then I will make a play"...

I've seen this guy play like LeBron James plays. Look to create for your teammates and go for a score when appropriate. If he played like LeBron James does I honestly think his legacy would be a lot closer to Jordan.

[Sublime12089]

Interesting. Article. On grantland about this.

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[Jano]

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Would have been something to see how Bryant played with CP3

Jano, I slightly disagree with you.. I think he has shown the ability to be an excellent facilitator, it's just that he chooses not to play that way. He's been as defiant as ever this year saying "I'm a scorer. That's what I do, I look to score if that's not there then I will make a play"...

I've seen this guy play like LeBron James plays. Look to create for your teammates and go for a score when appropriate. If he played like LeBron James does I honestly think his legacy would be a lot closer to Jordan.

Yea I hear what your saying Ex, Kobe definitely has proven he can play the way we would like. But he just makes me want to tear my hair out sometimes, its like **** a scoring record and put your team first lol!

[Vni]

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http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012...2_a2&eref=sihp

Perfect title for the article given this thread.

Interesting.

Just saw that World Peace shot 2 for 26 from 3 this season. Can't he just stop shooting at all.

[ojandpizza]

As great as Kobe is he will never be as good as what people hype him up to be, he will never be even close! Sure looking at a scoring points only stand point he'd be probably a top three player of all team with only Jordan and Wilt ahead of him, but there is so much more to the game than just that, the major thing that every great player had and the one thing that Kobe still continues not to have is the ability to make his teammates better. Kobe has never been that guy, and even now with old age continues to not be that guy, sure taking all those shots looks great and fans enjoy scoring numbers but it's not helping his team and it never really has. If you look back at his first 3 titles in which people complain that he won them because Shaq, well honestly he did, Shaq carried that team, was the best player on that team, that's why he won all 3 finals MVPs, after the Shaq trade Kobe started with the all for himself crap, even with players like Odom, Caron Butler, Brian Grant, he refused to make them better, to use what help he did have to an advantage, didn't even make the playoffs more worried about scoring 80 points per game, people can hate on LeBron all they want but I would never trade his ability to make every player around him better for Kobe's ability to hit a buzzer beater, if it wasn't for absolutely stacked teams Kobe wouldn't even have a winning team where a buzzer beater would matter, look to when he finally won more rings, Odom, Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Ariza, Fisher, Great bench players as well and the greatest coach of all time, Kobe needs all that to win, always has needed all that because he can't make the "role player" type guys better. LeBron has the best record in the NBA 2 straight season with a team full of guys of for the most part wouldn't even start on other teams, I'm just saying Kobe had never had that, it's not about assist numbers either, Jordan never had great assist numbers but he made every last player on all of his bulls teams better, he was the king of that, none of you might agree but IMO Jordan had the worst supporting casts of any NBA superstar to ever win a championship, but he demanded the best from them, both ends of the court, demanded their hard work, their hustle, he made them as close to perfect as any of them could possibly be, he didn't score 40 because he could, he scored 40 when his team needed him too, he did what his team needed most, not what made him look good, sure he was a cocky SOB lol but he backed up every second of it, but not just for him, for his team, for his city, for every one watching him play, Kobe will never be that.